U.S. involvement in the Syrian civil war

[basionok]

The jihad against Syria was to replay the CIA’s war against the Soviets in Afghanistan.

When the Arab Spring hit the streets of Damascus in 2011, CIA Director Panetta and many others argued that it was a prime opportunity to finally rid the world of the troublesome Assad regime. President Obama was unenthusiastic about involving the U.S. military, but he was eventually sold on the idea that Assad could be toppled, and Syria liberated, without placing an American boot on the ground. If mujahadeen could be employed to defend a country like Afghanistan, why couldn’t they also be used to destroy a country like Syria? Gates was skeptical, arguing that proponents of the jihad were overestimating our ability to calculate and determine outcomes. His position reflected a general squeamishness at the Pentagon over arming and training the same type of people who’d flown planes into our buildings just a decade earlier. Though his position would be vindicated soon enough, Gates was out, Panetta and Petraeus were in, and the rest is history.

Pillaging by Proxy

U.S. foreign policy leaders have become addicted to outsourcing atrocities.

americanmind.org

The Syrian conflict illustrates one of the great dangers of an unregulated covert operations agency like the CIA.

 

[Hamish Howl]

What about the FSB? They're just fine, right?

 

[TypicalRussian]

Exactly. It was a CIA operation against a country. Luckily it failed.

 

[Schism]

The CIA is the most dangerous entity on the planet. Even JFK wanted to scatter them into the wind.

But today's democrats and liberals worship them. JFK would piss on their Corn Flakes.

 

[anatta]

Gates was skeptical, arguing that proponents of the jihad were overestimating our ability to calculate and determine outcomes.

the CIA and Obama had the brainstorm to arm the Free Syrian Army. these were supposed to be the good non-secularists
(moderate Syrian rebels) as opposed to the jihadi such as al-Nusra.

Arming Syrian rebels: Where the US went wrong

The US started a military programme to train and equip rebels in Syria, but was it a case of too little, too late?

www.bbc.com

People in the intelligence community said the time to arm the rebels was 2012. The opposition was turning into a military force and hadn't yet been overrun by al-Qaeda-linked fighters and militants.
Not helping the rebels had consequences, Ford said.
Early support came in the form of "soon-to-expire MREs", or Meals Ready to Eat, "repurposed from Afghanistan and Iraq", says one former opposition member.
The White House officials didn't want to provide weapons in part because they were afraid they'd end up in the wrong hands. Rebels later admitted some weapons ended up with an al-Qaeda-affiliated group.

 

[Helix]

We're missing a few.

 

[anatta]

The CIA is the most dangerous entity on the planet. Even JFK wanted to scatter them into the wind.

But today's democrats and liberals worship them. JFK would piss on their Corn Flakes.

the FBI counterintelligence apparatus is giving the CIA a good run for the money - utterly corrupt

 

[basionok]

The devastation in Russia during Yeltsin's time was a gigantic rape staged by the CIA under George Bush Sr. tenure. It was the second rape in a row. The coup d'état carried out by Jewish terrorists in October 1917 can hardly be described as anything other than a rape of Mother Russia.

The 1980s were troubled for the Soviet Union. The war in Afghanistan, where the rebels were supported by the US through the Mujaheddin, became very costly and heavy for the regime. And, that war was in itself part of a cold war, which became a reality through the provision of the United States soon after the end of the Second World War. A cold war with a costly arms race in which the USA was always ahead brought the Soviet Union to its knees, which was also the USA's intention. Michael Gorbachev's glasnost and perestroika were significant steps in the right direction towards liberalization, but the situation became too unmanageable in the huge country — and Gorbachev finally prepared a real dissolution of the Soviet Union.

During this time, a man from the great expanses appeared, occasionally encouraged by Gorbachev. His name was Boris Yeltsin. He was opposed to the Soviet system and wanted to bring about a very rapid liberalization of the empire. The rumor about him quickly spread to the United States and George Bush, who for a long time had a network of CIA agents and bankers around him, and found this to be very interesting. Exported CIA tops could quickly ensnare less calculating Soviet KGB dignitaries who saw no problem in betraying their own country. This is how the so-called Yeltsin family or Yeltsin Mafia was formed, which would do its best to bring Russia down — or as William Engdahl puts it, "the Rape of Russia” — during the 1990s.

As long as power is in Washington, wars will continue

William Engdahl, one of the world's foremost geo-political experts, has described the devastation in Russia during Yeltsin's time as a gigantic rape staged by the

english.pravda.ru

 

[Fledermaus]

The devastation in Russia during Yeltsin's time was a gigantic rape staged by the CIA under George Bush Sr. tenure. It was the second rape in a row. The coup d'état carried out by Jewish terrorists in October 1917 can hardly be described as anything other than a rape of Mother Russia.

The 1980s were troubled for the Soviet Union. The war in Afghanistan, where the rebels were supported by the US through the Mujaheddin, became very costly and heavy for the regime. And, that war was in itself part of a cold war, which became a reality through the provision of the United States soon after the end of the Second World War. A cold war with a costly arms race in which the USA was always ahead brought the Soviet Union to its knees, which was also the USA's intention. Michael Gorbachev's glasnost and perestroika were significant steps in the right direction towards liberalization, but the situation became too unmanageable in the huge country — and Gorbachev finally prepared a real dissolution of the Soviet Union.

During this time, a man from the great expanses appeared, occasionally encouraged by Gorbachev. His name was Boris Yeltsin. He was opposed to the Soviet system and wanted to bring about a very rapid liberalization of the empire. The rumor about him quickly spread to the United States and George Bush, who for a long time had a network of CIA agents and bankers around him, and found this to be very interesting. Exported CIA tops could quickly ensnare less calculating Soviet KGB dignitaries who saw no problem in betraying their own country. This is how the so-called Yeltsin family or Yeltsin Mafia was formed, which would do its best to bring Russia down — or as William Engdahl puts it, "the Rape of Russia” — during the 1990s.

As long as power is in Washington, wars will continue

William Engdahl, one of the world's foremost geo-political experts, has described the devastation in Russia during Yeltsin's time as a gigantic rape staged by the

english.pravda.ru

Blaming the US for Russia's inability to join the rest of the world.

 

[OrphanSlug]

I guess Russian apologists are getting bored talking just about Ukraine.