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U.S. conservative conference with Hungary’s hardline leader reflects Republican divide

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Ok. The CPAC is having a conference in Hungary, and having a far right wing screw ball hard liner as a key note speaker. These folks used to claim liberty and freedom, and now they have Orban, a person clamping down on individual freedom as a key note speaker. What happened ?? What caused the shift from giving lip service to liberty to this rush to authoritarianism?

 
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This is a group of politicians that would kick democracy to the curb on a moment's notice if it meant a long-term, infallible grip on the reins of power. We all know it. This is the fascist wing of the GOP we are talking about... they literally are anti-Antifa e.g. against anti-fascism! So let's call a spade a spade.. they admire Kim Jong Un's power, they admire Vladimir Putin's power, they'd love such power for themselves, and they'll surround themselves with like-minded people because it makes them feel welcomed.

Of course Orban will be speaking!
 

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This is a group of politicians that would kick democracy to the curb on a moment's notice if it meant a long-term, infallible grip on the reins of power. We all know it. This is the fascist wing of the GOP we are talking about... they literally are anti-Antifa e.g. against anti-fascism! So let's call a spade a spade.. they admire Kim Jong Un's power, they admire Vladimir Putin's power, they'd love such power for themselves, and they'll surround themselves with like-minded people because it makes them feel welcomed.

Of course Orban will be speaking!
They are drifting dangerously close to such thinking. There hatred of the other side consumes rational thought. Our Constitution held Nov 2020-Jan 6 2021, but damn Trump and his gang really did try to steal an election. Un F'ing believable, still!!
 

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They are drifting dangerously close to such thinking. There hatred of the other side consumes rational thought. Our Constitution held Nov 2020-Jan 6 2021, but damn Trump and his gang really did try to steal an election. Un F'ing believable, still!!
Ironic you'd mention "hatred of the other side" when it's usually you side spewing the hate.
 

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This is a group of politicians that would kick democracy to the curb on a moment's notice if it meant a long-term, infallible grip on the reins of power. We all know it. This is the fascist wing of the GOP we are talking about... they literally are anti-Antifa e.g. against anti-fascism! So let's call a spade a spade.. they admire Kim Jong Un's power, they admire Vladimir Putin's power, they'd love such power for themselves, and they'll surround themselves with like-minded people because it makes them feel welcomed.

Of course Orban will be speaking!
A number of them would rather be under Putin (or at least they would until they actually experience it)
 

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Ok. The CPAC is having a conference in Hungary, and having a far right wing screw ball hard liner as a key note speaker. These folks used to claim liberty and freedom, and now they have Orban, a person clamping down on individual freedom as a key note speaker. What happened ?? What caused the shift from giving lip service to liberty to this rush to authoritarianism?

Conservatives have never said they were for blanket freedom. They only use it as an argument for certain positions they have
 

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Ironic you'd mention "hatred of the other side" when it's usually you side spewing the hate.
...says he of the "liberals are all child molesters" crowd.
 

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Ok. The CPAC is having a conference in Hungary, and having a far right wing screw ball hard liner as a key note speaker. These folks used to claim liberty and freedom, and now they have Orban, a person clamping down on individual freedom as a key note speaker. What happened ?? What caused the shift from giving lip service to liberty to this rush to authoritarianism?
The conservative brain is uncomfortable with uncertainty.

They long for a strongman to tell them everything is going to be okay, because we're killing or imprisoning everyone who bugs us.

So they like Trump, Orban, Ergogan, Putin, etc.
 

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...says he of the "liberals are all child molesters" crowd.
You don't know what you're talking about.
 

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The conservative brain is uncomfortable with uncertainty.

They long for a strongman to tell them everything is going to be okay, because we're killing or imprisoning everyone who bugs us.

So they like Trump, Orban, Ergogan, Putin, etc.
You're just gushing idiocy.
 

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Ok. The CPAC is having a conference in Hungary, and having a far right wing screw ball hard liner as a key note speaker. These folks used to claim liberty and freedom, and now they have Orban, a person clamping down on individual freedom as a key note speaker. What happened ?? What caused the shift from giving lip service to liberty to this rush to authoritarianism?

Putin and Trump are what happened.
 

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Ironic you'd mention "hatred of the other side" when it's usually you side spewing the hate.
Orban has completely crossed over to brutal fascism. The corrupt strongman cheats on elections. He called NATO his enemy. Sounds like trump.
 
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