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U.S. Congress probe of deadly Capitol attack racing against election deadline

Rogue Valley

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U.S. Congress probe of deadly Capitol attack racing against election deadline

The U.S. Congress' probe of the deadly Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol by Donald Trump supporters soon begins weeks of public hearings that will put the investigation in the spotlight as campaigning intensifies for the November elections. The probe into the worst attack on Congress since the War...
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The 1/6/ hearings will become must-see television when they transition to open hearings in the coming weeks.

The 1/6 committee must finish their investigations because the Republicans will [probably] have the numbers to shut the investigation down in November 2022.

1/6 Committee Announces Multiple Weeks Of Public Hearings Into Trump's Coup

Republicans have been worried and tried to do everything in their power to shut down the investigation, but it has been announced that the 1/6 Committee will hold multiple weeks of public hearings.
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Just an observation: including "deadly" in every reference to the Jan. 6 riot because one rioter got shot by security and another died of a heart attack is a lot like including "deadly" in every reference to Disneyland because a few kids have died there over the years.

That is, I think you intend it to sound grim and ominous, but it comes across as desperate and disconnected from reality.

I realize it's not you writing the articles. But FWIW.
 

Some might say the true disconnect from reality is among those who pretend that thousands of people rushing the Capitol, injuring well over 100 officers, permanently maiming several, and threatening the lives of our national leaders while the people who sent them there sat backed and happily watched, is really no big deal. It is. It was a game changer when it comes to political discourse in this country.

I didn't like it when Donald Trump was elected President. Nearly all left leaning individuals in this country shared that sentiment. We didn't engage in a months long attempt to force Hillary Clinton into the White House. We didn't march on the Capitol and threaten to hang Joe Biden for overseeing the allocation of electoral votes. We didn't tear out the eyes of Capitol police officers or impale them with metal stakes. We didn't beat them with flags and taze them until they had heart attacks while Barack Obama sat cackling in the White House.

January 6th was both grim and ominous on it's own, but also because of what it tells us about where we are going as a country.
 
CNN has a video of some trump supporters with delusional opinions about the event. The interesting thing is, I think they're right that a lot of trump supporters were manipulated in a planned 'trap' to assault the capitol, but they deludedly think Democrats and the FBI did it, when it was trump, the Willard Hotel operatives, and the militia groups who did it.

 
While you are largely correct, I don't think the way to breach the disconnect with the Trump deniers is by overstating what occurred 1/6.
Calling it extremely violent would convey the seriousness without the potential over statement of calling it "deadly."

Then again, there probably no chance of bridging the factual disconnect Trumpers have on virtually every topic.
 

You pretty much summed it up in your last sentence.

There is no way to bridge the disconnect with people who have spent decades forming their own version of reality where facts don't matter and there is a constant supply of new misinformation to rile them up. We've seen how effective bridging that gap is during the pandemic as tens of millions of them have made the choice that literally killing themselves and their families is worth it if they can get one over on the libs. They aren't well. They can't be reasoned with. All you can really do is diminish their ability to hurt those you care about and the country as a whole.
 

Another observation -- 5 dead and 142 injured police officers that day, some injured very seriously and permanently.

The US Capitol had not seen a violent day like this since the War of 1812.
 
Hahahah, yes, because we have to make room for Biden's weekly impeachment hearings.
 
....O-kay. "Grim and ominous", I suppose. But not "deadly".
 
Rogue Valley said:
Another observation -- 5 dead and 142 injured police officers that day, some injured very seriously and permanently.

The US Capitol had not seen a violent day like this since the War of 1812.
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Three of the five deaths were natural causes. One was an amphetamine overdose. Only one person died as a result of the actual violence, which was a woman shot by security while trying to climb through a door.

I'm sorry, but you don't get to append "deadly" to every description of the riot because one woman got shot in the shoulder and died.

Something like "The U.S. Congress' probe of the violent Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol..." is passable, albeit still a bit desperate, since violence is implied by a riot. But "deadly" just doesn't fly.
 
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