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I think you are missing the point.
Conservatives generally argue that increasing the minimum wage shifts jobs from younger workers to more mature workers, because if employers are going to have to pay a decent wage, they prefer to have more mature workers that possibly require less training and less babysitting. Economic history supports this point of view.
Someone was arguing that our jobs have shifted away from the middle ages adult and towards the young and older Americans (although someone later succesfully refuted that claim), and they were complaining about that. So I suggested that a possible "fix" for jobs moving away from middle aged folks would be to increase the minimum wage, which has been proven to shift jobs away from younger folks toward middle age folks.
In otherwords, maybe the fact that min wage hasn't kept up with inflation for at least 5 years, explains or partially explains why jobs have shifted towards younger people and people close to retirement age (if that has happened at all, it's debateable).
No, I understand the point. The point was that there are mcjobs, and your solution is increase minimum wage. That is a bandaid, not a solution to poor job creation.
Because we are failing to make quality jobs/careers available for our youth, we need to increase minimum wage? How about we fix the economy and create the right jobs so they can get a mortgage, and their kids can pick up their burger flipping job.
You see the right problem, but you have the wrong solution.
I should add, if there were to be an increase in minimum wage, it should be done at the state level, not federal.
McJobs is all that our youth ever had.
Young people don't immediately go into professional or high paying jobs. It takes time and/or education to get a better paying job.
My first job after graduating high school was busing tables for minimum wage. Heck, my first job after college as as an assistant manager trainee at McDonalds.
Now I really don't understand your point. Are you suggesting that we stop hiring youth to do necessary jobs like working in fast food or collecting buggies in the parking lot of Walmart? Are those not neccessary jobs? And who should do them, if not younger people, 45 year olds with college degrees and years of management experience? I don;t think you you have fully thought out what you are suggesting.
sorry, but my opinion is that you are the one with the misguided (but well intended) 'solution'
and here is why: your passage: "... How about we fix the economy and create the right jobs ..."
the economy is not in need of being 'fixed'. the invisible hand will keep it righted, if only we would not disturb natural economic forces. certainly, government policy and actions strongly influence it, but the economy is normally self sustaining
which leads to my next objection to your 'solution'. we do not create the right jobs. demand for such jobs are created. and then they are filled by those who possess the knowledge, skills and abilities to perform those jobs
it was not long ago that it was insisted there was a massive future demand for network administrators. but industry advances/changes caused the demand for such positions to be much weaker than had earlier been imagined
what we can do is provide access to training for our citizens to assure they have the skills needed to fill those jobs. and by doing so, we also assure the business community that it should expect to find the work force it needs to succeed. at present, there are massive numbers of un-/under-skilled individuals who need work but no jobs requiring those so under-prepared. at the same time, we are importing those with strong STEM skills from other nations - especially asian nations. as an example, my son cannot find enough high end programmers to fill jobs starting at $160,000 - $200,000 per year ... at the same time we have millions who have no skills and no minimum wage job opportunities. our work force is not being trained to meet our economy's future needs
except for make work programs, such as FDR's Works Progress Administration (WPA), where massive public projected were undertaken to provide jobs rather than jobs being created because of natural economic demand, what you propose going against economic history
now if you are proposing that our government should re-implement programs such as the WPA and the CCC then i am in agreement with you. but that is the only way jobs are created for workers. otherwise, business' economic demand for employees is what creates new jobs
Clearly you didn't understand my point.
Here is the point.
We need to make quality jobs, not jobs for the sake of making jobs. Those jobs are Mcjobs. They are not intended to support a family of four. To do that, you need a quality job.
The only jobs that are created are the ones that are needed, and the ones for which exist ample demand to create. Period.
Now do you have a suggestion as to how to make "quality jobs"? I would love to hear it.
The only jobs that are created are the ones that are needed, and the ones for which exist ample demand to create. Period.
Now do you have a suggestion as to how to make "quality jobs"? I would love to hear it.
Allow for more private sector development. Make it easier for small business start ups. Remove barriers set by the government.
what is suppressing private sector development?Allow for more private sector development.
easier in what way?Make it easier for small business start ups.
specifically what barriers are set by government?Remove barriers set by the government.
Like what type of barriers?
Can you list any specific barriers to starting a small business?
The only barriers that I know about are the ones on the part of the individual, like having some skills, and a good business idea, and a little cash to start it with. Other than that, I can't really think of any barriers. Pretty much all you have to do is to find someone who is willing to pay you to do something or to provide them with something.
What type of business would you like to start, and why don't you start it? Is there some law that prevents you from starting it?
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I already started my business. And I don't run it anymore. Let me tell you why. I wasn't able to pay myself what I am worth. I was able to find someone else to do that. So I took their job instead of continuing the one I made for myself.
Which goes back to $15 an hour. Why pay someone $15? Shouldn't you pay them what they are worth? Why should I as employer pay more $15 an hour for a guy to spin a sign in front of my business? Are you being paid what you are worth? Do you pay your employees or the people who work for you what they are worth? If not, then you are the problem.
actually, you wereI already started my business. And I don't run it anymore. Let me tell you why. I wasn't able to pay myself what I am worth.
there are comparables for almost every positionI was able to find someone else to do that. So I took their job instead of continuing the one I made for myself.
Which goes back to $15 an hour. Why pay someone $15? Shouldn't you pay them what they are worth? Why should I as employer pay more $15 an hour for a guy to spin a sign in front of my business? Are you being paid what you are worth? Do you pay your employees or the people who work for you what they are worth? If not, then you are the problem.
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