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Two vastly different views of an expensive home

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When a capitalist and a socialist look at an expensive home, this is what they say. A socialist says no one should live in an expensive home like that. OTOH a capitalist says it would be great if everyone could live in a home like that. And they work toward that happening.
 
When a capitalist and a socialist look at an expensive home, this is what they say. A socialist says no one should live in an expensive home like that. OTOH a capitalist says it would be great if everyone could live in a home like that. And they work toward that happening.
But there is a limit on the number of "expensive" homes that can be built so how could everyone have one? You're essentially suggesting everyone should be above average.
 
When a capitalist and a socialist look at an expensive home, this is what they say. A socialist says no one should live in an expensive home like that. OTOH a capitalist says it would be great if everyone could live in a home like that. And they work toward that happening.
What do capitalism and communism have in common?
Starving poor people
 
When a capitalist and a socialist look at an expensive home, this is what they say. A socialist says no one should live in an expensive home like that. OTOH a capitalist says it would be great if everyone could live in a home like that. And they work toward that happening.

I am going to use this post and explanation to try again to explain the differences between capitalism and socialism to my three grand kids. Thanks!

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But there is a limit on the number of "expensive" homes that can be built so how could everyone have one?

That's one of the beauties of capitalism. Practically speaking, no, there isn't. Compare today's homes to homes from a few decades ago, for example, and you will find they are much larger, better constructed, and have far more amenities. The average middle class family today lives like the upper middle class family of yesteryear, and lives better than the wealthy family of the eras before that.

Heck. I have a Garage. Know what a Garage is? It's a second house that I keep for my stuff.

:D Yay, Capitalism.
 
Fun Fact: In Capitalist America, Poor People Are Fat!

Living on a diet of processed 2 for a $1.00 gas station hot dogs and big gulps because that's all one can afford and has access too is the same thing as starving.
 
But there is a limit on the number of "expensive" homes that can be built so how could everyone have one? You're essentially suggesting everyone should be above average.

So everyone cannot be "Above Average". So What?

The Striving to be one of the "Above Average" makes everyone increase their production, which is a tide that rises all boats.

Striving to be "Above Average" by an Ethnocentric-Communist, generally takes the form of taking resources from a particular ethnicity producer, and giving to another ethnicity Moocher. In which case, it isn't really competition at all, it is just institutionalized, government sanctioned, ethnocentric robbery. In the long run, it only lowers EVERYONE's standard of living.

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When a capitalist and a socialist look at an expensive home, this is what they say. A socialist says no one should live in an expensive home like that. OTOH a capitalist says it would be great if everyone could live in a home like that. And they work toward that happening.

did you cash that CentGov welfare check yet?
 
But there is a limit on the number of "expensive" homes that can be built so how could everyone have one? You're essentially suggesting everyone should be above average.

But-------------------see---------------------that is where you are wrong. With Capitalism everything is possible if you are willing to work!!!!
 
Living on a diet of processed 2 for a $1.00 gas station hot dogs and big gulps because that's all one can afford and has access too is the same thing as starving.

1. Your first world privilege is showing ;) Feel free to ask any actually starving person if they would like a hot dog.

2. Not really, because that's not all they can afford or have access to. :)


Poor people in America live fabulous, wealthy lives compared to the poor in communist nations. Starvation? :roll: Let me know when 30 million people die from starvation in the U.S. Our problem isn't that we don't have food - our problem is that we have too much, and we like the less healthy portions of our abundance more.
 
What do capitalism and communism have in common?
Starving poor people

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just under socialism/communism. Great examples Cuba and Venezuela!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Living on a diet of processed 2 for a $1.00 gas station hot dogs and big gulps because that's all one can afford and has access too is the same thing as starving.

Do you have a job??? Is your idea of a job working for a hamburger joint on little more than minimum wage. Have you tried to better yourself. Are you spending money on drugs and smokes?
 
But-------------------see---------------------that is where you are wrong. With Capitalism everything is possible if you are willing to work!!!!

No math and statistics are pretty inflexible. To be an above average there has to be a below average. That is what averages are
 
When a capitalist and a socialist look at an expensive home, this is what they say. A socialist says no one should live in an expensive home like that. OTOH a capitalist says it would be great if everyone could live in a home like that. And they work toward that happening.
Actually...thats not accurate. When it is a leftist/commie/socialist that has that nice expensive home (or three) the idiot left IMMEDIATELY jumps to defend them and explain why their ownership of 3 mansions is a GOOD thing. When it is an eeeevil capitalist they immediately rush top shriek about how the only reason the eeeevil capitalist can buy that fancy home is because the eeeevil capitalist stole their pennies and shoved their face in the mud.
 
1. Your first world privilege is showing ;) Feel free to ask any actually starving person if they would like a hot dog.

2. Not really, because that's not all they can afford or have access to. :)


Poor people in America live fabulous, wealthy lives compared to the poor in communist nations. Starvation? :roll: Let me know when 30 million people die from starvation in the U.S. Our problem isn't that we don't have food - our problem is that we have too much, and we like the less healthy portions of our abundance more.

I grew up in a household where the school lunch was the only meal that I had that day. During a long stretch I went weekends without a meal because I wasn't in school. I know what it is to go days without food which is why I have empathy for others Everyone's situations and circumstances are different. The ****ing problem with conservatives is that they see everything in black and white, this or that, one way of the other. They are incapable of nuance. Their other problem is that the suffer from an inability to feel sympathy or empathy for others. Unless it's happening to them personally, it's not happening.
 
I grew up in a household where the school lunch was the only meal that I had that day

I'm sorry you had that hard start (though it sounds like you've tried to use it well). Where I've interacted with kids in that situation (as an adult I had to skip some meals starting out, but, the kid(s) was/were always fed), usually my experience is that it's a household problem - older kids are left in charge of younger kids, but don't bother to make them food, parents prioritize other purchases, etc. But, respectfully, school lunches are often famously unhealthy. If eating unhealthy is the same as starving, how did you survive, given that you should clearly have starved to death as a child?

People who are actually starving - like the starvation that leads to mass death, which we have seen from Communist nations, particularly when they attempt to nationalize the food industry, which leads to the same predictable results that we see whenever any industry is nationalized - would love to give their kids a hot dog. Or a school lunch pizza. When we respond to actual mass-hunger events, like famine, we typically don't focus on shipping them oranges and pecans - we focus on things we can provide quickly and cheaply and en masse to put calories into people to allow them to survive, like wheat and rice.


During a long stretch I went weekends without a meal because I wasn't in school. I know what it is to go days without food which is why I have empathy for others Everyone's situations and circumstances are different. The ****ing problem with conservatives is that they see everything in black and white, this or that, one way of the other. They are incapable of nuance. Their other problem is that the suffer from an inability to feel sympathy or empathy for others. Unless it's happening to them personally, it's not happening.

You may be interested in the research done by Jonathan Haidt on how leftists tend to misunderstand how conservatives approach questions of empathy, sympathy, and care for others.

Suffice to say, respectfully, what you've laid out here... is an extremely low-empathy statement ;)


Regardless, however, the point remains - capitalism provides an amazing abundance, including for it's poor, that hasn't been matched by any other system to date in the history of the human species. If you actually want to combat famine and starvation.... the best system for doing so.... is Capitalism.
 
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WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just under socialism/communism. Great examples Cuba and Venezuela!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was in Cuba 3 years ago. People don't starve there. That's the blessing of traveling outside US borders. Upon leaving the states, you leave that filtered view of the outside world and gain realistic perspectives. Hell, even the first time I went to Toronto, I learned very quickly that the world isn't as it is fed to Americans.
 
cpwill;1072474016[B said:
]School lunches are famously unhealthy.[/B] If eating unhealthy is the same as starving, how did you survive, given that you starved to death as a child?



You may be interested in the research done by Jonathan Haidt on how leftists tend to misunderstand how conservatives approach questions of empathy, sympathy, and care for others.

Suffice to say, respectfully, what you've laid out here... is an extremely low-empathy statement ;)
That was in the late 70's and 80's when the Chicago Public school systems had proper funding and lunch consisted of real food including vegetables. I was fortunate that my grade school had a full service kitchen that prepared hot lunch. Taco Bell is better than what they eat today. You have no idea what people's personal situations and circumstances are and we all know the Conservative approach to caring for others. Do exactly nothing besides tell people "pick yourself up by your boot straps" Conservatives soley care about themselves.
 
When a capitalist and a socialist look at an expensive home, this is what they say. A socialist says no one should live in an expensive home like that. OTOH a capitalist says it would be great if everyone could live in a home like that. And they work toward that happening.

Capitalists know that everyone can't live in an expensive home. They know they can, but they need to hire people to clean their toilets and those people will not live in an expensive home.
 
That was in the late 70's and 80's when the Chicago Public school systems had proper funding and lunch consisted of real food including vegetables. I was fortunate that my grade school had a full service kitchen that prepared hot lunch. Taco Bell is better than what they eat today. You have no idea what people's personal situations and circumstances are and we all know the Conservative approach to caring for others. Do exactly nothing besides tell people "pick yourself up by your boot straps" Conservatives soley care about themselves.

:D that sure is a lot of ignorance and inability to understand others from someone who claims to have a lot of empathy ;)
 
:D that sure is a lot of ignorance and inability to understand others from someone who claims to have a lot of empathy ;)

Great non-answer. It's not only going hungry as a child that instills empathy towards others, but also assisting in feeding those that haven't eaten in days at homeless and battered women's shelters. Telling others "you're on your own and figure it out" instills nothing.
 
No math and statistics are pretty inflexible. To be an above average there has to be a below average. That is what averages are

Yes looking at it starkly half are above average and half are below average. But look at average this way. If I put a piece of dry ice in one hand and lighted match in the other, on average your are comfortable.
 
Actually...thats not accurate. When it is a leftist/commie/socialist that has that nice expensive home (or three) the idiot left IMMEDIATELY jumps to defend them and explain why their ownership of 3 mansions is a GOOD thing. When it is an eeeevil capitalist they immediately rush top shriek about how the only reason the eeeevil capitalist can buy that fancy home is because the eeeevil capitalist stole their pennies and shoved their face in the mud.

You have a point there. Look at the mansions that democrats like Pelosi and Waters live in. What is pathetic is the fact that Waters doesnt even live in the district she represents. She live in a mansion is a snow white exclusive area!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I grew up in a household where the school lunch was the only meal that I had that day. During a long stretch I went weekends without a meal because I wasn't in school. I know what it is to go days without food which is why I have empathy for others Everyone's situations and circumstances are different. The ****ing problem with conservatives is that they see everything in black and white, this or that, one way of the other. They are incapable of nuance. Their other problem is that the suffer from an inability to feel sympathy or empathy for others. Unless it's happening to them personally, it's not happening.

OTOH the "victims" you whine about refuse to have personal responsibility and many refuse to work.
 
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