Montecresto
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The contrast was a canard... :coffeepap: How surprising.
Did you say Syria? I heard Syria.
Hard to argue with that. I will say though that Americans are not universally loved around the world. People know what we do.
I have 0 wants to commit an American soldier to the Ukraine. It is far more a European interest than ours and they should be the ones to solve it. I don't approve of Putin's land grab. I don't believe any negotiation we could make will solve the issue with Russia. We may one day look back and equate the events in Ukraine to that of Archduke Ferdinand. I hope not, but Europe needs to lead. My $0.02 until I swayed otherwise which is possible, but I haven't been convinced that we need US boots on Ukrainian soil.
In case you haven't notice, there are dicators ALL OVER the world that do that. Iran, North Korea, Africa, etc.
So are you for the U.S. to be the world police for dictators ALL OVER the world, or are you just for blowing up brown people?
Wtf!! It wasn't a contrast, it was a comparison.
Montecresto said:Do you find that in contrast with say C. Rice or M. Albright?
You're words ...
Choose your words more wisely next time.
No question. It is a European mess, caused by EU incompetence. The US is already too much involved and it is becoming an American problem thanks to the CIC with a Peace Prize.
Which I obviously did see a contrast and listed the items where I saw a contrast, then you drop a WTF claiming you said "compare". Apparently you forgot you said "contrast"? To repeat (because it bears repeating) choose your words more wisely in the future and try to remember or at least look back at what you already said.Exactly, I was asking you, YOU Ockham, if YOU found Kerry to be in contrast with Rice and Albright. Because of course, they aren't.
Let's skip going back to the beginning - do you or do you not have a point with your "contrast" request? If you don't, I prefer not to waste more time, as you cannot remember what the subject is or what you previously said an hour ago. If you have a point other than the obvious one which you've made now 3 times (what every "SoS" is...) please make it. Pretty please, with a cherry...Lets go back to the beginning. You claimed that John Kerry is nothing but a mouth piece for the president. My point is that every SoS is, so what's the damn point you really want to make???
We can support the Europeans...but I would rather not commit.
Which I obviously did see a contrast and listed the items where I saw a contrast, then you drop a WTF claiming you said "compare". Apparently you forgot you said "contrast"? To repeat (because it bears repeating) choose your words more wisely in the future and try to remember or at least look back at what you already said.
Let's skip going back to the beginning - do you or do you not have a point with your "contrast" request? If you don't, I prefer not to waste more time, as you cannot remember what the subject is or what you previously said an hour ago. If you have a point other than the obvious one which you've made now 3 times (what every "SoS" is...) please make it. Pretty please, with a cherry...
Yes, you made a stupid statement about John Kerry, as though to paint him in contrast with all other SoS's. criticising a SoS for being the presidents mouth piece is like criticising mustard for being on a hot dog!!
So stupid you agreed with it multiple times. You asked for a contrast and I gave it to you. Then you claimed it was "compare", and I pointed out your mistake, didn't want to discuss the contrast, and now you're continuing to point out your mistake over and over. I'm very happy to keep discussing your mistake instead of moving on.
Do you often mistake words and forget what you post? It's seems you do.
The problem is that the EU cannot handle it and the Europeans are trying desperately to make it out to their populations that it is an American problem and not their fault, responsibility or worth doing much more than ritual scolding.
So stupid you agreed with it multiple times. You asked for a contrast and I gave it to you. Then you claimed it was "compare", and I pointed out your mistake, didn't want to discuss the contrast, and now you're continuing to point out your mistake over and over. I'm very happy to keep discussing your mistake instead of moving on.
Do you often mistake words and forget what you post? It's seems you do.
So now your going to say that your Kerry comment was a compliment!! Fascinating.
Here's the stupid comment you made about John Kerry sense you are trying to "move on"
In case you haven't notice, there are dicators ALL OVER the world that do that. Iran, North Korea, Africa, etc.
So are you for the U.S. to be the world police for dictators ALL OVER the world, or are you just for blowing up brown people?
It even appears that they aren't as concerned about it as they speak.
Use the quote tag buttons - they work better.
And what part of my statement was inaccurate that you would like to discuss... does he NOT tow the party line? Is not adequately pushing Obama's world view? Is he not useful? Dazzle me with your insight...
If they can deflect blame, like the EU is so good at doing, then why should the politicians worry?
So you do need a fourth explanation. What you said about Kerry is accurate, but its accurate of every SoS. That's what an SoS does, so pointing it out in the derogatory manner that you did, just shows partisan bs, and it really is stupid.
Well, Russia and the US is not exempt from having deflected blame. Last fall the State Department was working with Yat's to support a coup, and it didn't quite work out the way it was planed. It cost Crimea and could end up costing eastern Ukraine.
Yats? Coup?
Explicitly what part was inaccurate? Point it out, then support it with logic or facts. :coffeepap:
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