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Two of our worst GOP administrations in my time won by the electoral college yet lost the popular vote

Court Jester said:
So what? What is your point?

Popular vote doesn't decide the presidency, it never has---not even when the popular vote is more, just doesn't work that way.

The United States is a Constitutional REPUBLIC. You should look up what that means. We are a "United STATES". We would not have become a United States if the proposal had been back in 1789 that the more populous states could decide every election; the smaller rural states would have never signed on to that for good reason. Doesn't mean that the sum total of the more populous states combined cannot win every election if they are in agreement. But it does mean that when the contest is close, the smaller states have some power; they have to be heard; candidates and parties need to consider them--- a brilliant check and balance.

Without the Electoral system we would become dictatorship ruled by California and New York.
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You don't know what that means, either. The term "democracy" was not used very often in the 18th century. Republic and democracy were considered synonymous to the founding fathers.

The electoral college was created so that only white privileged men could vote. It has nothing to do with this modern day nonsense that you think it does.
 
Kerry Won Ohio said:
Trump can win the popular vote ONLY if there is voter suppression. Period.

Trump has lost at least 10% of his support among Republicans in the past 4 years. And there is NO ONE who voted for Clinton in 2016 that is going to vote for Trump now. Again, you make zero sense.
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I just disagree with your certainty on the state of the Union is all.
 
Bassman said:
The Electoral College was wisely instituted to ensure that urban shitholes never get to dictate the national agenda, let alone decide the Presidential Election. Sorry, not sorry it drives the loony Left even more insane, but we were never meant to be a direct democracy in any stretch.
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Imbecilic opinion, and corrupt. That's not why it was established. People who live in cities are Americans deserving equal votes, not second-class citizens. They deserve their fair share of deciding the president - a lot more than other people deserve to decide as a minority and force it on people in cities. You don't just disagree with people in cities, you want to make their votes count less, stealing elections. Equal votes is not "direct democracy".
 
beerftw said:
Not joking just read the polls on educated vs non educated whites and hispanic and black support for trump, trump is somehwere near 30% support from blacks and 40% from hispanics, something darn near unheard of for blacks, and rare for hispanics(bush jr reached a higher % though on hispanics) Then look at trump doing well with non college educated whites but doing poorly with college educated whites and elderly voters.

Trump is literally eating the democratic base and the democrats are eating the republican base, if the trend continues neither party will be how you remember it. The last major shift was with nixon when in a shoort time the democrat and republican parties had a massive polarity shift, the conditions are currently pointing to a high probability of it happening again.
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This poll reported on Sep 21, shows Hispanic support for trump just under 30%, and black support at 13% (which, while higher than usual, is nowhere near 30%). Those 'ok' numbers with his other terrible numbers show a Biden win.

 
Bassman said:
Popular vote means dick when it comes to the Presidential election. I tell you though. Had the Benghazi Bitch been foisted upon us, you would be hearing nothing but high praises for the system working as it should.
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I had large concerns with Hillary, but yes, if she, with decades of experience in government, in the White House, as a Senator, as Secretary of State, with a 'normal' agenda despite its flaws, defeated a corrupt, mentally ill, pathologically lying, utterly incompetent with zero government experience, con man running as a stunt, that would be the system working as it should, even if she were a bad president, as I suspect she would have been.
 
Kerry Won Ohio said:
Funny you say that. There are at least 10 Nazi Repug states that I feel the same way about.

And, of course, you're not denying that I'm correct. No Repug Presidential candidate will win the popular vote for at least the next 20 years. The Repug Party is now the party of overt shameless racism, thanks to your embrace of Trump. Not to mention that the Repug Party is now a death cult that wants people to die of COVID-19.
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:ROFLMAO:
Yer so lost in your ridiculous leftist rhetoric that assume you ever had the capacity to think straight...you've lost it.

In 2016...

Ohio
Clinton2,394,16443.56%Trump2,841,00551.69%

Trump won the popular vote...just as he did in 29 other states. But we DO agree there ar eincreasing numbers of mindless leftist retards that will allow themselves to be crippled dependent pets for the rat party...and that number will soon be larger than thinking reasoned rational productive citizens.
 
VanceMack said:
:ROFLMAO:
Yer so lost in your ridiculous leftist rhetoric that assume you ever had the capacity to think straight...you've lost it.

In 2016...

Ohio
Clinton2,394,16443.56%Trump2,841,00551.69%

Trump won the popular vote...just as he did in 29 other states. But we DO agree there ar eincreasing numbers of mindless leftist retards that will allow themselves to be crippled dependent pets for the rat party...and that number will soon be larger than thinking reasoned rational productive citizens.
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You think straight, dude??? Then you why did you vote for Trump? You voted for a mentally ill corrupt racist **** with a 5th grade education and a learning disability.

Your political opinions suck. Your judgement sucks. I'm embarrassed for you, how you prostitute yourself for a mentally challenged, non-serious man like Trump who plays with his feces.
 
Craig234 said:
This poll reported on Sep 21, shows Hispanic support for trump just under 30%, and black support at 13% (which, while higher than usual, is nowhere near 30%). Those 'ok' numbers with his other terrible numbers show a Biden win.

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Which poll is this poll because the link does not say.

Either way trump had polls pushing him around 18% in 2016, he got about half of what the polls claimed, and polls this year have shown biden doing poorly with blacks and hispanics. But for the sake of it lets say polls show trump at 30% but he only gets 15% of the black vote, that is still a fairly large demographic shift. Now polls are showing from conservative to liberal pollsters biden losing ground with minorities by margins democrats never would have accepted in any other election, and trump is losing much of the warhawk, rino base the republicans never would have thought they could lose.

It could be just a trump thing, but going back and looking it is looking like both parties are trying to snatch up the demographic or portions of the demographic ignored by the opposing party.
 
beerftw said:
Which poll is this poll because the link does not say.
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I don't have it now, I just googled for the latest polls, and reported a clear one. It does not show trump doing much better with minorities. You keep referring to polls showing trump at 30% with black voters, and they don't.
 
never forget how irresponsible the electoral college is
 
trump is a spoiled bratty loser .......... has never been acceptable. lied from day one of his first campaign.
 
seems to be
 
it's time for the EC to go. if the Republican party wants to win, they need to get more votes.
 
Kerry Won Ohio said:
You don't know what that means, either. The term "democracy" was not used very often in the 18th century. Republic and democracy were considered synonymous to the founding fathers.

The electoral college was created so that only white privileged men could vote. It has nothing to do with this modern day nonsense that you think it does.
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You got a real burr up your butt over white men. Your assertion that electoral college was created so that only white privileged men could vote is absolutely asinine. It was created to provide structure to the government to give extra power to the smaller states, to protect their votes from being over run by the larger, more populous states. In other words, what you libs are always whining about - equality.
 
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