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If only there was a sure and 100% certain way of telling which was which.
We agree.
If only there was a sure and 100% certain way of telling which was which.
This is incorrect. The European Court of Human Rights holds that “whole life” sentences with no possibility of review and no prospect of release were inhuman and degrading treatment in breach of Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights.
https://www.justiceinitiative.org/v...court-ruling-life-sentences-sets-new-standard
The USA has a TV series dedicated to correcting wrongful sentences. "Reasonable Doubt" is one such. There are enough miscarriages out there to supply a TV series. How many innocent dead people should the state kill on your behalf? There's no hope of rehabilitating a dead person.
Calling a legal execution "cold blooded murder" is a shallow appeal to emotion, yet that is not pointed out by you.
I would prefer to take all emotions out of it and have someone explain to me without emotion why living in a 10x10 cell for the rest of someone's life is better than them having their life ended sooner.
yet you are cool with the state having the power over your life to lock you up in a 10x10 cell for the rest of your life.
How would you describe killing a stranger for no other reason than to take their life?
None. That is why I only want cases that are 100% proven. Preferably with overwhelming evidence. A confession is a bonus if it matches the evidence.
I would call that murder. But that is not what we are talking about.
We are talking about punishment for a crime committed. These people knew that the DP could be the the result of their actions and they took them anyhow.
To call capital punishment cold blooded murder would like like calling putting people in prison kidnapping.
Not necessarily, given the US court system's flaws, anyone can be found guilty if they can't afford a decent lawyer. Your silly simile is an emotive fiction.
One of an innocent and one of a guilty person.
Dying of old age and being shot when you are 20 are both deaths, but they are not comparable
You like to see people being killed as well.
I do not like to see it, but it is a fact of life
None. That is why I only want cases that are 100% proven. Preferably with overwhelming evidence. A confession is a bonus if it matches the evidence.
Replace the death penalty with life in solitary confinement.
that is far more inhumane than killing them
U.S. courts are a disgrace.Not according to U.S. courts which. allow (frequently) solitary confinement in the U.S. And someone proven to be innocent while they are serving in solitary can be freed and then compensated. I've suggested 40-50,000 a year for approximately four times as many years as they were imprisoned. That's because most people have to spend approximately one quarter of their time working to support themselves. Thus this would "give that time back to them" that they had taken away from them in prison.
U.S. courts are a disgrace.
Lets get rid of it thenThat is because of all the legal challenges, takes way too long. 13 years is just silly. Might as well not even have the death penalty .
They have the ability to be released if they are found innocent, if the state screws up and kills the wrong person, they cant be brought back.Why is life in a cage more humane than the death penalty?
The state makes a lot of mistakes. Once someone is dead, they dont come back. Thats the major difference.Murder is an unlawful killing. If someone is found guilty and then executed it is not murder no matter how many times you wish to use the word. The thing about the death penalty is that everyone on death row knew that what they were doing could be punished by death, and they choose to do it anyhow.
But back to the question....what makes living a 10x10 cell for the rest of your life more humane than having that life ended?
Do you believe in an afterlife?
Lets get rid of it then
None. That is why I only want cases that are 100% proven. Preferably with overwhelming evidence. A confession is a bonus if it matches the evidence.
Cory Johnson and Dustin Higgs were due to be Donald Trump's final executions before he leaves the White House, but lawyers argue their Covid-damaged lungs would mean a lethal injection would be torture
The executions of two condemned murderers have been delayed for months while they recover from Covid-19.
Inmates Cory Johnson and Dustin Higgs had been scheduled to die on Thursday and Friday at the Justice Department's execution chamber in its prison in Terre Haute, Indiana.
However, Judge Tanya Chutkan of the US District Court in Washington ordered the US Department of Justice extend their time on death row until at least March 16.
Their lawyers had argued the virus has damaged their lung tissue and giving them the lethal injection would cause such severe pain it would be like torture.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/trumps-final-two-executions-delayed-23308688
Cory Johnson (l) and Dustin John Higgs
This moves the killing of the inmates into the presidency of Joe Biden who is known to be against capital punishment. Inmates cannot be executed by any state of the European Union as they are bound by the European Convention on Human Rights.
Your question has nothing to do with the stay of executions.Did those two show any mercy to their victims?
Disgusting that more concern is shown to those two than to the victims' grieving families.
Oh, yeah, that person in the White House will stay their execution. After all, didn't you see yesterday's photo op of him standing so reverently in front of the Lincoln Memorial?