Two dead and one wounded in Kenosha shootings during Jacob Blake protests

[PirateMk1]

Protester shouldn't have attacked him if that's indeed what happened. But I have more sympathy for someone carrying a concealed handgun in public than for someone brandishing an assault rifle. Both may be legal activities, but the latter is a stupid activity.

Wasn't stupid in this case. Carrying that rifle literally saved his life.

 

[TurtleDude]

People are dead that shouldn't be. What that child did was evil and he should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. The cops pushed the protesters to the militia. They are complicit in this. It is unforgivable. The fascists must not be allowed to win. This is getting scary.

It is far past time for leftists to arm themselves.

I want honest lefties to arm themselves. Then they might realize how stupid some of the gun laws their favorite politicians have passed.

 

[Mr Person]

yeah and a guy was attacked from behind and used a rifle to defend his life. Good shoot

Celebrating murder, huh? Did you throw a gun-themed party after Aubery's murder?

He had allegedly just shot a man in the head and was running away when attacked.

And now he's been arrested and charged with first degree murder.

that's not on the tape is it?

Talking out of your rear again?

Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, charged with murder after two killed during Wisconsin protests

Prosecutors in Wisconsin have charged a 17-year-old with murder after two people were killed on Tuesday night during protests against Jacob Blake's shooting.

Kyle Rittenhouse, from Antioch, Illinois - 30 minutes drive from Kenosha, where Mr Blake was shot - was charged with first degree intentional homicide.

Lake County prosecutors described him as a "fugitive from justice", saying he had fled the scene.

Some reports on Wednesday however suggested he has been arrested.

Rittenhouse was caught on camera running from the scene and reportedly saying: "I just killed somebody."

Earlier in the evening a man identified on social media as Rittenhouse spoke to reporters in Kenosha and said he and other members of a militia had gathered by a petrol station to protect it from looting.

The man says he has been "pepper sprayed by a person in the crowd."

The interviewer says: "So you have non-lethals, but you just did not respond?"

He replies: "We don't have non-lethals."

The interviewer says: "So you guys are full-on ready to defend the property?"

"Yes we are," the man replies. "Now if I can ask, can you guys step back?"

They caught the thug. Good:

Kenosha gunman Kyle Rittenhouse arrested for murder after cops let him flee out of state – Raw Story

Another video shows Rittenhouse open fire with a rifle after he fell to the ground and then calmly walk toward police vehicles with his hands raised in surrender. Other people can be heard yelling that he had shot someone. However, no officers are seen getting out of the vehicles, which continue advancing toward protesters, to apprehend Rittenhouse — who then fled the state and was considered a fugitive. He was arrested later Wednesday back in his hometown.

Kenosha gunman Kyle Rittenhouse arrested for murder after cops let him flee out of state – Raw Story

 

[swing_voter]

I can sort of agree with that though we both know it was not an assault rifle

Nobody cares.


It's an "assault style rifle".

 

[Linc]

Seems you just tried to justify murder.

Trump Haters are NOT mob supporters and he knows that. Imo, the increase in these killings during an election year to cause race riots is troubling. It does appear to be a concerted effort by a FEW rouge militia cops.

Weapons of War are wonderful for cops to deal with after their aftermath, such as face-splattered children. The vast majority of Cops are good, decent family people trying to do a hard job they love but feel kicked around about.

 

[PirateMk1]

People are dead that shouldn't be. What that child did was evil and he should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. The cops pushed the protesters to the militia. They are complicit in this. It is unforgivable. The fascists must not be allowed to win. This is getting scary.

It is far past time for leftists to arm themselves.

That kid was helping protesters earlier in the night. He is also no fascist. Get your facts straight. The assholes who attacked him earned what they got. Every bit of what they got. Pity the punk shot in the arm didn't meet his maker.

 

[lwf]

Wasn't stupid in this case. Carrying that rifle literally saved his life.

It was stupid. Carrying that rifle is what made him a target and put his life at risk.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Really great Twitter thread explaining the racism behind what's happening right now in Kenosha:

https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/1298670927136337933?s=20

Jared Yates Sexton

@JYSexton

Two protesters were murdered yesterday by a white militia member who'd been working with police. We have to recognize the relationship in America between white extremists, law enforcement, and the state. Here's what I learned writing AMERICAN RULE.

First, we have to put this in perspective. The murders last night by a militia member were not just isolated incidents. There have been so many acts of violence perpetrated against protesters and yet we fail to make the connections. Why? Because our myths rely on it. We have seen, time and time again, these white militias and paramilitary group working alongside law enforcement while targeting BLM protesters. There is a long, long history of these actions and it is part of the fabric of America's white supremacist roots.

America's history is riddled with paranoia about the possibility that people of color, without proper control and discipline, might rise up, destroy property, murder white people, and destabilize society. It is this paranoia that motivates so much of our current moment. In fact, much of our law enforcement dates back to the control of slaves and the reacquisition of slaves as property. Our society rests on a foundation of white supremacist control of people of color. As I've written about previously, the Confederate States of America was predicated on conspiracy theories and white supremacist paranoia, the idea that conspirators might manipulate slaves into rebellions that would kill southerners and destroy civilization.

In the wake of the Confederacy's collapse, southerners formed paramilitary groups like the Ku Klux Klan in order to keep African Americans from organizing, realizing their freedom, or living in shared society. They saw it as law enforcement. Reconstruction saw these partnerships between the KKK and white supremacists, all of them working in concert to try and control African Americans and anyone who might assist them. They believed, if left unchecked, violence and corruption would destroy the nation.

Of course, the Confederate monuments and statues that have been targeted during the BLM Movement were erected in order to send a message that the Confederacy survived the Civil War and had become ingrained in our laws, institutions, and culture. White supremacist paranoia took on a new tone in the 20th century as the Russian Revolution provided a new conspiracy to fear in their ongoing war with people of color. They believed communists were manipulating people of color into violence as a means of attacking America. Though the Red Scare we're most told about was post-WWII, the original was post-WWI. White Americans believed communists were using African Americans as a weapon against them, so they terrorized, lynched, murdered, and intimidated them.

The conspiracy theories during the Red Summer sound just like Trump Era fearmongering. Here, they claimed Marxists and communists were using African Americans to create violence and warned that white people would be targets and possibly even slaughtered. To counteract these white supremacist conspiracy theories, mobs of white Americans and law enforcement relied on extralegal measures, including murder, lynching, torture, and terror. It was all considered "legitimate" because of the fears. The KKK came to national prominence and spread to other parts of the country. It wasn't just a southern phenomenon any longer, but took over entire states like Indiana. They marched through DC, a symbol of the acceptance of white terrorism in concert with the state and law. In places like Tusla, white mobs worked alongside law enforcement to murder African Americans, destroy their homes and businesses, and attack them in relentless and cruel fashion.

More at the link above. I couldn't fit the whole thread into one post. It's definitely worth a read.

The people who support these militia groups. Trump supporters, in particular, want to convince you this isn't about race...

It's all about race.

These militia groups, mostly Trump supporters, hate black people standing up for their rights and they will kill them and anyone that helps them if they can get away with it.

 

[PirateMk1]

What color was Jacob Blake? What color were the Pigs who shot him in the back?

That gives people the right to rampage and destroy their neighbors?

 

[SkyFox76]

Wasn't stupid in this case. Carrying that rifle literally saved his life.

And now he's charged with murder.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

More from the Sexton Twitter thread:

https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/1298670927136337933?s=20

Donald Trump's presidency is partly a result of this ongoing conspiracy theory as he tells the Right he is the champion who will undo the conspiracy (now called "the Deep State") and save white America. They want him to do it by any means necessary.

This is how a nonexistent "group" like Antifa becomes public enemy number 1. They're a replacement for abolitionists, for the USSR, for New World Order puppetmasters. They are the existential threat Trump must extinguish in order to protect white supremacy.

This is why Black Lives Matter is treated like a project obsessed with destroying America. The old lie requires that they are treated like dangerous people of color who will murder and destroy if their traitorous manipulators have their way.

This alternate reality, where the Right is drowning in conspiracy theories, tells its believers they are in an invisible war. So. They take to the streets. They run over protesters. Shoot them. Throw bombs. Because they believe they're in an invisible war. Trump's base truly believes they are fighting a holy war for America's survival, a war that is, in totality, a racial war between whites and people of color that has been raging since the founding of the country. This myth is required within the white supremacist worldview.

The disturbing truth is that this alternate reality and invisible war Trump and Republicans sell for power and profit is the same one white terrorists believe. They have peddled this myth for decades and want desperately to plunge America into a fascist dictatorship. Around the country, in incidents the news rarely reports and almost always refuses to put into context, white terrorists have murdered people and plotted a military takeover of the United States.

It is a massive, growing movement that threatens all of us.

I think the risk of a second Civil War being caused by these dumb gun nuts, these Trump-supporting militia types is very high at this point.

And all because they simply cannot accept the fact that people who aren't of solely European ancestry are human beings who have the same rights that they have.

 

[Bucky]

You have no clue how insurance works. None. These peoples lives are being destroyed. They have an absolute RIGHT to defend it. Quite frankly if business owners slaughtered the whole lot of the "protesters" and mounted their heads on pikes I would make it a POINT to patronize them. The protesters are worse than the cops who murdered people.

Stop embarrassing yourself, please:

When civil unrest, rioting, and looting break out, many business owners and homeowners are justifiably concerned about property damage. Sometimes even peaceful protests can escalate and lead to vandalism and riots, and bad actors frequently take advantage of large-scale gatherings to destroy property, set fires, and/or cause other damage to public and private property.

So many people are asking — Does insurance cover riots and looting?

The answer: Yes, standard insurance policies usually cover damage that results from rioting, looting, vandalism, and/or civil commotion. This would include damage caused by rioters as well as damage caused by the reactions of police and civil authorities during a riot.

Does Insurance Cover Riots and Looting?.

You are more concerned with property damage than actual human rights. Disgusting.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Seems you just tried to justify murder.

No more that you seem to be justifying theft and arson. Don't do these things unless you are prepared for the possible consequences. I'm actually surprised it took this long for one of these looters to be shot.

 

[PirateMk1]

It was stupid. Carrying that rifle is what made him a target and put his life at risk.

He was targeted by BLM assholes running around trying to burn down the city and who have murdered 30 other people. That rifle saved his ass.

 

[lwf]

He was targeted by BLM assholes running around trying to burn down the city and who have murdered 30 other people. That rifle saved his ass.

He was targeted because he was carrying that rifle. He could have more easily carried a concealed handgun and he would not have been targeted in the first place.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

People are dead that shouldn't be. What that child did was evil and he should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. The cops pushed the protesters to the militia. They are complicit in this. It is unforgivable. The fascists must not be allowed to win. This is getting scary.

It is far past time for leftists to arm themselves.

The Chinese would certainly support your position but another option is to quit destroying property and looting the shops of small business owners..

 

[Your Star]

That kid was helping protesters earlier in the night. He is also no fascist. Get your facts straight. The assholes who attacked him earned what they got. Every bit of what they got. Pity the punk shot in the arm didn't meet his maker.

He was a fascist that drove across state lines to "protect property" that was not his with an assault rifle to kill people. The police were giving his group water bottles before the shooting and thanking them for their support. They are clearly on the same side. I'm sure the fascist asshole was all too eager to get into some **** and have an excuse to shoot people. **** him.

 

[j brown's body]

Celebrating murder, huh? Did you throw a gun-themed party after Aubery's murder?





Talking out of your rear again?





Another video shows Rittenhouse open fire with a rifle after he fell to the ground and then calmly walk toward police vehicles with his hands raised in surrender. Other people can be heard yelling that he had shot someone. However, no officers are seen getting out of the vehicles, which continue advancing toward protesters, to apprehend Rittenhouse — who then fled the state and was considered a fugitive. He was arrested later Wednesday back in his hometown.

Kenosha gunman Kyle Rittenhouse arrested for murder after cops let him flee out of state – Raw Story

On Tyranny: 20 Lesson for the 21 Century by Timothy Snyder

17. Watch out for the paramilitaries. When the men with guns who have always claimed to be against the system start wearing uniforms and marching around with torches and pictures of a Leader, the end is nigh. When the pro-Leader paramilitary and the official police and military intermingle, the game is over.

https://law.yale.edu/sites/default/files/workshop_readings_-_february_2.pdf

 

[Your Star]

The Chinese would certainly support your position but another option is to quit destroying property and looting the shops of small business owners..

Property destruction is a valid form of protest. Particularly in a capitalist society. The burning of police precincts is necessary at this point.

 

[Mr Person]

That kid was helping protesters earlier in the night. He is also no fascist. Get your facts straight. The assholes who attacked him earned what they got. Every bit of what they got. Pity the punk shot in the arm didn't meet his maker.

The Antioch Police Department made the arrest on Wednesday after the suspect allegedly fled Wisconsin for his home state following the shooting. "(The suspect) fled the state of Wisconsin with the intent to avoid prosecution for that offence," according to the document.
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Video footage from the event showed a gunman in the middle of the street brandishing a semi-automatic rifle before firing off the shots that hit multiple people. Eye witnesses then said the gunman was allowed to walk past police without getting arrested. In one video, protesters are heard shouting at police that he was the gunman as the officer drove by to attend to the victims.

17-year-old arrested for murder and fleeing state after Kenosha shootings that left two dead | The Independent

Sounds like a sociopath. He drove there hoping to generate an excuse to shoot someone and made sure he got it.

Kyle Rittenhouse, 17, charged with murder after two killed during Wisconsin protests

Kenosha gunman Kyle Rittenhouse arrested for murder after cops let him flee out of state – Raw Story

Sounds like the police kinda wanted it to happen, too:

The confrontation near the gas station unfolded after police dispersed protesters outside the Kenosha County Courthouse who had begun launching fireworks at officers protecting it. Police responded with tear gas and drove protesters in the direction of the gas station, where they were met by armed men — members of what police described as vigilante militia groups that have descended on the city.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/26/jacob-blake-kenosha-police-protests/

What kind of person who swears to "protect and serve" decides that herding protesters towards a bunch of armed thugs is a good idea?







Nevermind that people who legitimately act in self-defense do not flee.

 

[SkyFox76]

that's not on the tape is it?

From a short distance, yes, as well as people trying to tend to the victim.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Property destruction is a valid form of protest. Particularly in a capitalist society. The burning of police precincts is necessary at this point.

Then so is shooting the idiots who try it. Otherwise stay at home.

 

[PirateMk1]

Stop embarrassing yourself, please:



Does Insurance Cover Riots and Looting?.

You are more concerned with property damage than actual human rights. Disgusting.

They don't tell you that all the losses are not covered and cannot be calculated. You got an article by some jackass who don't have a business or apparently insurance or has used it. Insurance does not nor will it ever cover full damages. It doesn't cover lost business for one, and a whole bunch of other things not mention there are deductibles. and what about income for that time? All insurance or policies are alike and many have major differences and overages. Further if they have employees, the employees are now screwed of of employment.

Whats disgusting is you defending a bunch bastards running around destroying peoples lives. **** the BLM bastards.

 

[PirateMk1]

And now he's charged with murder.

The DA charged him? You have a source?

 

[PirateMk1]

He was targeted because he was carrying that rifle. He could have more easily carried a concealed handgun and he would not have been targeted in the first place.

Those BLM assholes are targeting everyone. He could be carrying NOTHING and still be targeted. It still doesn't make a difference because those assholes are murdering pillaging thugs destroying peoples lives.