Twitter provides a great example of liberal blindness to hypocrisy.

[Rawley]

Yes, because throwing people off Twitter after they encourage their followers to overthrow a government is definitely the type of ideas we want people to discuss freely and openly.

Is what what Rachel's Vagina is telling you? He got thrown off Twitter because his tweets encouraged his followers to overthrow a government?

These are the tweets that got him thrown off. I know you guys hear dog whistles in Celine Dion songs, but seriously, where is the part about overthrowing the government?

“The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”

“To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.”

 

[Rawley]

I would say that those arrested opposing the Kavanaugh appointment should have faced serious charges (I was taking a break from politics at the time so I don't have details handy in my mind) as it raises to a similar level of concern as the events of Jan 6. In that you have a similar circumstance of obstructing the procedures of appointing or confirming a top official. So you are right in terms of the level of crime and punishment.

On the other hand, there is a difference in the level of concern in the aspect that while these protests occurred, I do not believe that they ever held a threat against the continued existence of the government as we know it. I do not recall, for example, the joint chiefs having to make a statement that they support Kavanaugh. So in that case it was far less serious. So I disagree in terms of the threat it placed on the country.

Really? You believe those thugs represented a "threat against the continued existence of the government?" They were under control in less than a hour, by a poorly manned Capital Police staff.

 

[Rawley]

All ideologies are biased. I'm biased towards Democracy, you're biased towards Fascism.
But no, I do think that we should have a free market, so private companies can deplatform who they want.

So you favor the repeal of section 230, right?

 

[PrincessBerlin]

So you favor the repeal of section 230, right?

No, I think private companies should choose to deplatform Fascists, they shouldn't be forced to by the government.

 

[Rawley]

No, I think private companies should choose to deplatform Fascists, they shouldn't be forced to by the government.

I was speaking of your free market belief. Section 230 is a gigantic government thumb on the freemarket scale.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Really? You believe those thugs represented a "threat against the continued existence of the government?" They were under control in less than a hour, by a poorly manned Capital Police staff.

I think they represent a larger contingent of people who are a threat.

 

[PrincessBerlin]

I was speaking of your free market belief. Section 230 is a gigantic government thumb on the freemarket scale.

Doesn't Section 230 protect social media sites from being blamed for what their users do or say?

 

[Rawley]

I think they represent a larger contingent of people who are a threat.

I wasn't questioning the number of people, but your belief that this group of thugs truly represented a "threat against the continued existence of the government?" Seems to be overstating the threat a bit. Did they respresent a physical threat to some members of Congress and perhaps the VP? But a threat to the very existence of the government?

 

[Slartibartfast]

I wasn't questioning the number of people, but your belief that this group of thugs truly represented a "threat against the continued existence of the government?" Seems to be overstating the threat a bit. Did they respresent a physical threat to some members of Congress and perhaps the VP? But a threat to the very existence of the government?

I believe they were at the time a threat to the due certification of Biden, but the government as a whole? No.

 

[Rawley]

Doesn't Section 230 protect social media sites from being blamed for what their users do or say?

That and they can't be sued for removing content or making defmatory remarks about content they remove or their users.

 

[Rawley]

I believe they were at the time a threat to the due certification of Biden, but the government as a whole? No.

OK. You stay out of the loon category

 

[Slartibartfast]

OK. You stay out of the loon category

I do think this element will come back more coordinated and better armed and I also think we are in for at least a decade of McVeigh type events.

So I may be a loon still.

 

[Rawley]

I do think this element will come back more coordinated and better armed and I also think we are in for at least a decade of McVeigh type events.

So I may be a loon still.

I fear you may be right. Unfortuantely, the actions of your party by pulling this impeachment bullshit, the inaction by Biden by not stopping it, the censorship by Big Tech, the inane rhetoric from the loon media, all combined are only going to make things worse.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I fear you may be right. Unfortuantely, the actions of your party by pulling this impeachment bullshit, the inaction by Biden by not stopping it, the censorship by Big Tech, the inane rhetoric from the loon media, all combined are only going to make things worse.

I see the root cause as a dying rural culture and long term demographics changes. These people were always going to find something to blame.

 

[Rawley]

I see the root cause as a dying rural culture and long term demographics changes. These people were always going to find something to blame.

We're going to disagree. IMHO the anger and frustration stems from the utter contempt the Democrats and the left in general had for Trump from day 1 and by extension, for any of his 75 million supporters. You can see it here every day. And yes, there were serious questions about how the elections were run. Unquestionably unconstitutional changes in how the elections were run in Penn and GA. But the courts, right or wrong, refuse to get involved. It's not just sore losers that have questions.

 

[PrincessBerlin]

That and they can't be sued for removing content or making defmatory remarks about content they remove or their users.

So it sounds like this is in place to keep the social media sites free. They can do what they want and people can't sue them in order to force them to platform everyone.

 

[Fishking]

All ideologies are biased. I'm biased towards Democracy, you're biased towards Fascism.
But no, I do think that we should have a free market, so private companies can deplatform who they want.

"Blah, blah, blah...everything I don't like is fascism and I literally have no cogent point for anything I say...blah, blah, blah."

It's so predictable.

 

[PrincessBerlin]

"Blah, blah, blah...everything I don't like is fascism and I literally have no cogent point for anything I say...blah, blah, blah."

It's so predictable.

Strawmanning, ehhhh?

 

[Rawley]

So it sounds like this is in place to keep the social media sites free. They can do what they want and people can't sue them in order to force them to platform everyone.

So you have no problem if ATT looks up your voter registration and cancels your phone service because you are registered as a socialist?

 

[PrincessBerlin]

So you have no problem if ATT looks up your voter registration and cancels your phone service because you are registered as a socialist?

Well there are regulations for things like that. ATT can't just cut your service right away without warning. Much like your landlord can't just cancel your lease and demand you move out tonight.
But if ATT does want to refuse to give you service and they aren't a monopoly, then I think they should have that right, provided they give you notice and such.

 

[Rawley]

Well there are regulations for things like that. ATT can't just cut your service right away without warning. Much like your landlord can't just cancel your lease and demand you move out tonight.
But if ATT does want to refuse to give you service and they aren't a monopoly, then I think they should have that right, provided they give you notice and such.

WHy do they have to give you notice. THey are a private company.. And then Verizon does the same, and Sprint and Cricket and .... No problem, they are all free market private companies.

 

[PrincessBerlin]

WHy do they have to give you notice. THey are a private company.. And then Verizon does the same, and Sprint and Cricket and .... No problem, they are all free market private companies.

We need to have some regulation. But it shouldn't be so much that the government is forcing companies to do business with everyone. Especially when it comes to platforming, since that can be seen as endorsing.

 

[Cardinal]

It really does just leave me astounded at seeing the levels of hypocrisy that is displayed by the left. I'm not being hyperbolic. It's like they have the memory of a potato. We saw months and months of systemic violence, in cities across the nation on a much larger scale than on the 6th, but that's A-OK. It was more than 2 seconds ago so it doesn't exist.

Now Twitter is going on about how Uganda blocking social media apps and believing their should be competition in the market of ideas. Like...uhhh, no you don't. The hubris of it.
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It would be great if people learned how to use “hypocrite” correctly in a sentence.

 

[Fishking]

Strawmanning, ehhhh?

You not only don't know what a strawman argument is but you also don't have an actual point. You're multi-untalented, apprently.

 

[PrincessBerlin]

You not only don't know what a strawman argument is but you also don't have an actual point. You're multi-untalented, apprently.

Saying I call anything I don't like "Fascism" is a strawman. I disagree with Capitalism, but I don't call it Fascism.