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Twenty-First Century America: Thuggery and Violence

LowDown

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The 21st Century isn't shaking out like I'd hoped.

We got an indication from a Trump rally in March, in which a mixture of BlackLivesMatter and Sanders supporters committed acts of violence, tore stuff up, committed assault, disrupted the speakers, and shut down the rally.

Increasingly people look to violence to further their agenda. The leaders of these movements are full of hate. They can’t tolerate other opinions, they can’t abide free speech, freedom of religion, or any of that. It's an all or nothing battle for the benefits of big government.

We may be faced with a choice between civil war and losing our freedom.
 

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nah, we're too fat to fight a civil war, national diet needed before we can consider a revolution.
 

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If Hillary were to get in and initiate her gun grabbing and free giveaway agenda...you bet there will be trouble.
 

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Hillary (like Trump) is just the would be president. We still do not have a 'king'. She may advocate for gun grabbing but she will not be able to implement it. The trouble will come from the usual suspects...the rabble rousers looking to gain 'power' from the 'oppressed'.


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I have more and more come of the perspective that we now need an orderly secession.

All those red white and blue states where the idea of the Constitution and its true meaning still have real purchase... any states that want to join that hold strong to similar beliefs.

We should take the examples of Dr. King, Jr and Gandhi, use non violent protest, passive resistance, en masse quit paying federal income taxes, en masse quit adhering to those federal laws to which our common sense, conscience and conviction can no longer allow us. They cannot put us all in jail. Agree to some form of payment system to share our part of the burden already massively incurred but no longer responsible for the increases, also taking our share of the military and its hardware, federal lands which really belong to each of the individual states, etc...

Much as we did prior to the Revolution and the Civil War, we have too great a chasm in our separate cultures/belief systems, to mend or compromise. There is just too large a dissimilarity and the ideologies often have no room, such as in the case of the abortion issue, for much, if any, compromise. With the continued growth of federal power much of our freedom has already been curtailed. We, many of us, feel hemmed in from all sides, inexorably being dragged further down... no longer by mere overtures towards socialism and the libertine values, or absence thereof... but by their forced incorporation into all of our daily lives.

My opinion is that the left has pushed all this far past the point of no return. If we want to preserve some modicum of what the founders so bountifully handed down to us and our posterity, its become time once again, in the course of human events to dissolve those bands...

Long live the True United States of America. :peace
 

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The 21st Century isn't shaking out like I'd hoped.

We got an indication from a Trump rally in March, in which a mixture of BlackLivesMatter and Sanders supporters committed acts of violence, tore stuff up, committed assault, disrupted the speakers, and shut down the rally.

Increasingly people look to violence to further their agenda. The leaders of these movements are full of hate. They can’t tolerate other opinions, they can’t abide free speech, freedom of religion, or any of that. It's an all or nothing battle for the benefits of big government.

We may be faced with a choice between civil war and losing our freedom.

This happens often in declining societies. On the positive side I see voters fighting the political establishment for the first time. Hopefully they will keep it up. If not, then we will certainly lose a lot of freedom.
 

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The 21st Century isn't shaking out like I'd hoped.

We got an indication from a Trump rally in March, in which a mixture of BlackLivesMatter and Sanders supporters committed acts of violence, tore stuff up, committed assault, disrupted the speakers, and shut down the rally.

Increasingly people look to violence to further their agenda. The leaders of these movements are full of hate. They can’t tolerate other opinions, they can’t abide free speech, freedom of religion, or any of that. It's an all or nothing battle for the benefits of big government.

We may be faced with a choice between civil war and losing our freedom.
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Trump-, BlackLivesMatter- and Sanders acolytes are a fine demonstration of the dynamic intellectualism of the present political currents in the US. It reminds one of the stories one read about the end of the Roman Republic or the rise of Mussolini's Italy.
 
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