Turkey continues on toward a form of dictatorship.

[SNOWFLAKE]

Just as we are witnessing here in the United States of America as the (Biden)-Harris administration embarks on totalitarian rule.

OMG! thanks for the most hilarious comment of the day!

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

How did a thread about Turkey turn into an opportunity to trash Biden?
I mean how does one connect Turkey to Biden?

Let me guess:

 

[code1211]

That is why it is a terrorism favorite religion, you can do any cruelty with it, if you bend it the right way. Islam is like a law that has the title "The right thing" but every criminal find the way to utilize it to do crime because the law has many interpretations and flaws.

With the greatest respect, any system that encourages the unthinking allegiance of its followers is the vehicle you describe.

Could be ANY religion, Democrat-Socialists or any of the other isms out there.

The medium is the massage.

 

[code1211]

The miners and pipeline workers have been losing jobs for decades as energy needs are changing and Biden has little to do with it. Kodak tried to stay with its film technology as the industry went digital and got all but destroyed for not recognizing and adapting....same damn thing.

The particular pipeline workers put out of work by Biden on his first day along with the various jobs that their infrastructure work supported were not an organic reduction.

Sadly, unlike miners and Pipeline workers, the folks getting paid welfare that you ignore in your post will continue to be plentiful and will likely grow in the upcoming months.

I was only wondering if they, too, should be deprived of income, as the miners and pipeline workers have been, with our leadership propagandizing the lies that they can find programming jobs.

 

[tecoyah]

The particular pipeline workers put out of work by Biden on his first day along with the various jobs that their infrastructure work supported were not an organic reduction.

Sadly, unlike miners and Pipeline workers, the folks getting paid welfare that you ignore in your post will continue to be plentiful and will likely grow in the upcoming months.

I was only wondering if they, too, should be deprived of income, as the miners and pipeline workers have been, with our leadership propagandizing the lies that they can find programming jobs.

They should be supported and retrained into the new energy infrastructure.

 

[Serenity]

I was last there in 2015 for the 100th Anniversary of the landings at Anzac Cove in Gallipoli, the year before the failed coup attempt.

Anyone paying attention to what has been unfolding in Turkey over recent years knows that Ataturk's dream of a secular Turkey has been dead for quite some time now. You can thank Erdogan and his thugs for that.

It's a crying shame.

 

[code1211]

They should be supported and retrained into the new energy infrastructure.

Should be? Seems like it might be a better idea to just let the economy transition, AS IT IS DOING RIGHT NOW, to the new energy sources.

Will the desired retraining retrain the folks already on welfare or the newly displaced energy workers that are being forced to join them on welfare or the whole bunch on welfare to quickly eliminate that part of our society?

Expanding the problem seems like a bad way to eliminate the problem.

 

[Torus34]

Should be? Seems like it might be a better idea to just let the economy transition, AS IT IS DOING RIGHT NOW, to the new energy sources.

Will the desired retraining retrain the folks already on welfare or the newly displaced energy workers that are being forced to join them on welfare or the whole bunch on welfare to quickly eliminate that part of our society?

Expanding the problem seems like a bad way to eliminate the problem.

Hi!

I must admit to being at a bit of a loss in understanding the relationship of the quoted post to the political situation in Turkey.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

[ataraxia]

I was last there in 2015 for the 100th Anniversary of the landings at Anzac Cove in Gallipoli, the year before the failed coup attempt.

Anyone paying attention to what has been unfolding in Turkey over recent years knows that Ataturk's dream of a secular Turkey has been dead for quite some time now. You can thank Erdogan and his thugs for that.

It's a crying shame.

It's a little reminiscent of what happened in Iran as well. Ataturk's contemporary counterpart in Iran at the time (Reza Shah- the father of the deposed Shah of Iran) also made great strides in secularizing Iran and cutting away at the political power of the clergy there. But by the late 1970s that project obviously had come crashing down with a vengeance.

In this country, the US, that was also about the time of the rise of things like the Christian Coalition, the televangelists, the megachurches, and Evangelical Christians as a aggressive and powerful political bloc, etc...

Interestingly, even in Israel the ultra-orthodox Jews started gaining prominence in politics and public life at about that time.

What was it about secular democracy to which all these countries have had such a reactionary backlash (and continue to do so like in Turkey)? I mean was modernity that bad that they all want to resort to such primitive medievalism? Was it just too much change too fast?

 

[Torus34]

@ataraxia;

Hi!

I've been reading about fascism for quite some while now. One of the hallmarks of successful fascist movements, and a number of unsuccessful ones, was the willingness for conservative elements in countries to pair with them because of a fear/dislike of the left. This had its roots in the struggle for political power. [In some instances, such as the rise of communism in the early 19th century, there may well have been reason for fear.]

I'm not sure if it's reasonable to place religious groups in the 'conservative' column, but offer the information for your consideration.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

[highroller]

Just as we are witnessing here in the United States of America as the (Biden)-Harris administration embarks on totalitarian rule.

After Trump right wingers have no room to talk

 

[highroller]

Just watch the news from the Democratic-controlled media in this country.

1. Some Dems want to pack the Supreme Court.
2. Some Dems want to shut down all opposition in the Senate.
3. Some Dems want to gut the First Amendment regarding freedom of speech.
4. Some Dems want to make elections a federal matter instead of leaving it to the states.
5. Some Dems want schools to teach "dislike" of Caucasian people.


And those are just for starters!


Have a nice weekend!

The opposite is actually true. This is what the GOP wants save the “teach” thing which is just made up.

 

[code1211]

After Trump right wingers have no room to talk

What were the policies/actions of Trump that you cite to support your ideas on this?