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Tucker Carlson's White Supremacist Rant

The bill was set up to stop democrats from rigging elections. They rig elections because if they don’t they lose.

And of course you can refer us to a report or other source that shows this. Other than Trump, please.
 
He’s a flat out Nazi.
It goes without saying of course that you are entitled to your opinion, and any opinion.

But I suggest a personal encounter with his research and writing not one where you recite ideas developed by others. And I extend this to all areas. For example I have read extensively Left Progressive political theory and historical opinion (lots of Chomsky) as well as many of the Black Liberation authors (Huey Newton, Angela Davis, Malcolm X, MLK, and others). So if I have an opinion about them it is not 'second hand' but first hand.

My intellectual philosophy is likely different from yours. I believe that all ideas should be 'put out on the table' where they can be discussed openly. I extend that to examinations of Jewish influence in America, a topic generally off-limits unless one is praising Jewish contributions. But in relation to anti-Semitism I have also read widely: Malcolm Hay 'Europe and the Jews', Joshua Trachtenberg 'The Devil and the Jews' and many others). And I have also read Christian critiques of Talmudic writing and philosophy. And of course Jewish critiques of Christian anti-Semitism. I read about half of David Duke's autobiography as well.

I do allow for a Jewish-critical position though, if it is carried out judiciously, and for this reason I do not simply dismiss MacDonald.
 
It goes without saying of course that you are entitled to your opinion, and any opinion.

But I suggest a personal encounter with his research and writing not one where you recite ideas developed by others. And I extend this to all areas. For example I have read extensively Left Progressive political theory and historical opinion (lots of Chomsky) as well as many of the Black Liberation authors (Huey Newton, Angela Davis, Malcolm X, MLK, and others). So if I have an opinion about them it is not 'second hand' but first hand.

My intellectual philosophy is likely different from yours. I believe that all ideas should be 'put out on the table' where they can be discussed openly. I extend that to examinations of Jewish influence in America, a topic generally off-limits unless one is praising Jewish contributions. But in relation to anti-Semitism I have also read widely: Malcolm Hay 'Europe and the Jews', Joshua Trachtenberg 'The Devil and the Jews' and many others). And I have also read Christian critiques of Talmudic writing and philosophy. And of course Jewish critiques of Christian anti-Semitism. I read about half of David Duke's autobiography as well.

I do allow for a Jewish-critical position though, if it is carried out judiciously, and for this reason I do not simply dismiss MacDonald.

He has openly literally endorsed and supported fellow Neo Nazis on numerous occasions. His raging anti Semitism practically falls right out of the pages of Mein Kampf itself. You not wanting to believe the facts because you admire his ravings.....doesn’t change them.

There is no reason to pretend that Nazis have a valid point worthy of being “discussed”. There is no reason to pretend, likewise, that long debunked white supremacist fantasies have any worth at all.

Gee bud, are you also “agnostic” on the Holocaust?
 
It goes without saying of course that you are entitled to your opinion, and any opinion.

But I suggest a personal encounter with his research and writing not one where you recite ideas developed by others. And I extend this to all areas. For example I have read extensively Left Progressive political theory and historical opinion (lots of Chomsky) as well as many of the Black Liberation authors (Huey Newton, Angela Davis, Malcolm X, MLK, and others). So if I have an opinion about them it is not 'second hand' but first hand.

My intellectual philosophy is likely different from yours. I believe that all ideas should be 'put out on the table' where they can be discussed openly. I extend that to examinations of Jewish influence in America, a topic generally off-limits unless one is praising Jewish contributions. But in relation to anti-Semitism I have also read widely: Malcolm Hay 'Europe and the Jews', Joshua Trachtenberg 'The Devil and the Jews' and many others). And I have also read Christian critiques of Talmudic writing and philosophy. And of course Jewish critiques of Christian anti-Semitism. I read about half of David Duke's autobiography as well.

I do allow for a Jewish-critical position though, if it is carried out judiciously, and for this reason I do not simply dismiss MacDonald.
I've read a lot of crazy crap written by some really evil people. I certainly do not defend those writings. Holocaust denial is a pretty big sign that someone is a Naziphile.
 
We are supposed to be intolerant of Nazis. How did you miss that part of History Class?
I am sorry in a way to mention, just to mention, that I believe very much in the intellectual need for revisionism. For example Civil War historiography has gone through various cycles of revisionism: looking at things again from different perspectives. There are revisionist perspectives of the Sixties. Of the Spanish-American War. The Conquest of the Americas. In all areas.

The ideological platform of 'intolerance of Nazis' was developed by the US war department and is really a propaganda position, not a studied one. I definitely have come to question any declaration of 'absolute evil' when it is projected onto any enemy. Be they Russian, Chinese, Iraqis, Vietnamese -- what have you. I extend this to those I identify as my 'political adversaries' today: for example numerous ideologues operating under the Democratic banner. You have to hear them first before they can be dismissed.

I did not miss the class, I grew up in it! And through exposure to ideas and, if I may say, the capacity to think critically and independently, I came to challenge many 'absolute certainties'. Everything is less black & white then we'd wish.

I do not support National Socialism as a political theory and philosophy, yet I do not dismiss and cannot dismiss the various strains of right-tending reaction that developed in the Interwar Period in Europe in opposition to Soviet Communism and Marxist-Lenninist thinking and policy. You see I think these things have to be examined 'holistically'.

The reason there are now *echoes* of similar narratives today is that the same forces are still operative in our present. Remember: people need to interpret their world. They cannot get *truth* from any interested party. And they search and root around for 'explanatory discourses'.

May I submit a very interesting example of 'rooting around for explanatory discourses? I came across this 'reduction' recently and I thought it quite interesting. You see, it expresses an idea-platform of profound skepticism. And it moves toward a discourse of explanation.

But when I examine what you do -- and you especially -- I see a person who evinces a specific trend in thinking that I describe as 'diseased'. You do not have a critical frame of mind. You do not do first-hand and close readings. You do spout all sorts of unqualified opinions though, and mere opinion is weak and frail.

And you-plural show, by your hysterical, hot-headed discourse, that you really are not doing much thinking at all! But then you don't want to. This is *sport* for you. A pastime.

It is not discourse though.
 
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... I definitely have come to question any declaration of 'absolute evil' when it is projected onto any enemy. Be they Russian, Chinese, Iraqis, Vietnamese -- what have you. I extend this to those I identify as my 'political adversaries' today: for example numerous ideologues operating under the Democratic banner. You have to hear them first before they can be dismissed.

I did not miss the class, I grew up in it! And through exposure to ideas and, if I may say, the capacity to think critically and independently, I came to challenge many 'absolute certainties'. Everything is less black & white then we'd wish.

I do not support National Socialism as a political theory and philosophy, yet I do not dismiss and cannot dismiss the various strains of right-tending reaction that developed in the Interwar Period in Europe in opposition to Soviet Communism and Marxist-Lenninist thinking and policy. You see I think these things have to be examined 'holistically'.

But when I examine what you do -- and you especially -- I see a person who evinces a specific trend in thinking. You do not have a critical frame of mind. You do not do first-hand and close readings. You do spout all sorts of unqualified opinions though, and mere opinion is weak and frail.

And you-plural show, by your hysterical, hot-headed discourse, that you really are not doing much thinking at all! But then you don't want to. This is *sport* for you. A pastime. It is not discourse though.
Stuffing people into ovens is not exactly benign, and gassing those folk to get them there is indeed absolutely evil.
 
No, I did not totally ignore. But I did say to someone who asked:

"Seriously why is this guy still getting air time?"​

I do understand that YouTube and nearly all the *spaces* for public discourse are privately owned and thus 'private spaces'. If you listened to the CNN presentation I posted where the ADL director suggested how it could come about that Carlson could be gotten rid of (pressure on advertisers and other machinations) it was clearly expressed there and I did very well understand what is portended. These plans and policies are just now being instituted. We will notice them more and more in the coming months and years.

But if you think these things through you will easily see that what we used to call 'public square' and 'public space' is now wholly owned by private corporations. And they can, technically, refuse to report anything not of their choosing. They can, technically, limit all speech.

This is 'problematic' as we say today. In a definite sense it is unprecedented as well. There are some, I am one, that would advocate for newer and modernized legislation that would extend free speech right into those electronic domains that have replaced or superseded the former 'public square'. The reasons are obvious. But it is a troublesome and problematic area.

When one examines your thought -- the things you say -- one discovers there intolerance, illiberalism and attitudes and proto-policies that have more in common with fascistic regimes (the former USSR, Maoist China and the CCP today) than with 'classic liberal concepts and values'.

You do not come out boldly in defense of a general encouragement of the circulation if ideas in all media, as a matter of accepted and necessary cultural protocol, but you definitely take the side of those who are today actively working to shut it down. This is a curious shift or transvaluation if I take you as a Left-Progressive exponent.

My my how things change!
No you fail utterly to understand free speech
All you did was make a strawman and fail at that
You assume I am a left progressive, you fail there as well

Welcome to Failsville population you
 
Since we had another black man killed by white cops for no reason other than that he had an air freshener hanging from his mirror, me thinks Carson is on the wrong side of this replacement argument because it sure looks like it's the minorities who are expendable...as they always have been.
 
And of course you can refer us to a report or other source that shows this. Other than Trump, please.

OK. ...

Time Magazine Admits 2020 Election Was RIGGED!

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

I watched this happening on TV and it help convince me that the dems were rigging the election.
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Watch: Detroit workers block windows, bar observers from watching absentee ballot counting
 
Two stunning news sources. What's next, Pravda? Given that many Trump supporters swallowed his election fraud lie, I can see why some people might make comments like that. Trump himself revealed that he thought his cult followers were a bit off, with his I "could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue" statement.

Joe Biden has made some odd comments on firearms. He likes shotguns but give port advise. If you walk outside and fire your shotgun into the air you just broke the law.





Joe Biden's Shotgun Advice Could Land Jill Biden in Jail
 
Did you act


Did you actually believe I was saying there was a real, physical Democratic Plantation?

No, I was under the impression you had an argument deeper than a cartoon.
 
I mean, the dude claims that the laws ending Jim Crow were “unacceptable expansions of federal power” and that “ "Blacks and whites are different. When blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western civilization – any kind of civilization – disappears."

Sounds pretty clear cut to me.

Two alleged quotes without the context does not convince me that that it's "clear cut". Reference to an article he has written or an interview might be better.
 
Nah, by any reasonable standard Garrison is a nut.

😂 Trump doesn’t even place in the top forty presidential spots.


No, the election wasn’t “rigged”. Your Dear Leader lost fair and square. Get over it.

People who are more loyal to Donald Trump than America have no place here. It’s really that simple. And no amount of hoarding deer rifles makes you stand a chance against Abrams and Apaches, for that matter.

The alternative the Democratic Party is now pushing is to change this nation into a socialist workers paradise. People who believe in our Constitution don’t buy that crap.

You Can See America's Future Under Socialism, And It Isn't Pretty

You would roll the tanks and helicopters against American citizens? You would make a great socialist. They love killing their citizens. Stalin killed 20 million of his citizens.

In passing a large number of gun owners don’t feel the AR-15 in .223 or 5.56 is underpowered for deer hunting. Many upgrad the weapon to a more powerfujl round.

Pros & Cons of using an AR-15 for Deer Hunting
 
Why not just say “white people”?

Because its heritage peoples are those pre-existing root stock and culture of our history, regardless of race or color. There is no particular reason that ANY foreign persons should be permitted to immigrate without benefit to the commonweal, especially those likely to contribute to polarization and grievance politics.

That's why.
 
OK. ...

Time Magazine Admits 2020 Election Was RIGGED!

Oldest trick in the book. Link an article and then wildly misrepresent it.

Time's article didn't say that at all. In fact, Time's article said Trump was trying to destroy our electoral system and that a lot of people worked to stop him.
 
The alternative the Democratic Party is now pushing is to change this nation into a socialist workers paradise. People who believe in our Constitution don’t buy that crap.

You Can See America's Future Under Socialism, And It Isn't Pretty

You would roll the tanks and helicopters against American citizens? You would make a great socialist. They love killing their citizens. Stalin killed 20 million of his citizens.

In passing a large number of gun owners don’t feel the AR-15 in .223 or 5.56 is underpowered for deer hunting. Many upgrad the weapon to a more powerfujl round.

Pros & Cons of using an AR-15 for Deer Hunting

An actual tyrannical regime certainly would. And you lot wouldn’t stand a chance, no matter how many guns you’ve hoarded.
 
The alternative the Democratic Party is now pushing is to change this nation into a socialist workers paradise. People who believe in our Constitution don’t buy that crap.

You Can See America's Future Under Socialism, And It Isn't Pretty

You would roll the tanks and helicopters against American citizens? You would make a great socialist. They love killing their citizens. Stalin killed 20 million of his citizens.

In passing a large number of gun owners don’t feel the AR-15 in .223 or 5.56 is underpowered for deer hunting. Many upgrad the weapon to a more powerfujl round.

Pros & Cons of using an AR-15 for Deer Hunting
communists like that haven't existed for decades in any real numbers, at least not in first world nations
 
...especially those likely to contribute to polarization and grievance politics.

That's why.
Sadly we can't kick the whining White Grievers out, most of them were born here....which makes their failure to succeed all the more baffling.
 
Sadly we can't kick the whining White Grievers out, most of them were born here....which makes their failure to succeed all the more baffling.
twenty years ago I was wondering what would happen to the people who couldn't compete in a situation of increasing automation (this is actually why I decided go into IT, to be ahead of the curve) and now I know, a populist uprising
 
twenty years ago I was wondering what would happen to the people who couldn't compete in a situation of increasing automation (this is actually why I decided go into IT, to be ahead of the curve) and now I know, a populist uprising
Ya gotta wonder how they missed the boat. I mean, come on, that writing has been all over the wall since at least 1984.

So, now we have natural born American citizens, many raised in middle class homes/families, who now cannot even compete with new arrivals that speak little or no English. And then they blame the immigrant. Go figure.
 
Since we had another black man killed by white cops for no reason other than that he had an air freshener hanging from his mirror, me thinks Carson is on the wrong side of this replacement argument because it sure looks like it's the minorities who are expendable...as they always have been.
No one was shot and killed because he had an air freshener hanging from his mirror.
 
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