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Trumpsters, if Trump and his people worked with Russians to win the election, okay with you?

If you watch their lies to defend the cult come in, notice how they treat each revelation as if it was in a vacuum. It’s like they think we can’t remember the 100 other revelations that came before.

I also enjoy how they like to exclaim that each new revelation somehow nullifies the previous ones.

"Oh, so now Trump is laundering money. Guess the Russia-collusion thing wasn't getting enough traction."

"Oh, now it's Trump is paying off porn stars. Guess the obstruction of justice thing went nowhere."

Trumpsters actually believe that when Mueller finally issues his report it's going to say "Sorry. I got nuttin'."

They fail to realize that every few weeks or months multiple people, including judges, have to sign off on renewing warrants, subpoenas, wiretaps, etc. in order for the investigation to continue. That is in addition to AG Winstein approving of the investigation continuing. Trumpsters actually believe that all of these people are ready, willing, and able to put their reputations out there for a report that will reveal there is nothing untoward whatsoever.

To be fair, Trumpsters are quietly preparing for the worst, though. They are prepared to pull out all the stops if necessary. They continue to tell us "There was no collusion! And collusion is not a crime!" "Trump didn't share data with Russians! And sharing data with Russians is not a crime!" "Trump had no deals with Russia! and Having deals with Russia is not a crime!" "Trump didn't pay off a porn star! And paying off porn stars is not a crime!"

If someone with a chest full of medals, including purple hearts, should speak critical of Trump or his policies, that person and their sacrifice is slandered unmercifully. It does not matter how much blood someone has shed for this country, it does not entitle them to speak out against Trump, AKA Commander Bone Spurs. I stand amazed that conservatives will stand to defend a draft dodger over a purple heart recipient, or a disabled combat veteran, or a gold star family, or a war widow. Bizarro World, that's what it is.
 
I also enjoy how they like to exclaim that each new revelation somehow nullifies the previous ones.

"Oh, so now Trump is laundering money. Guess the Russia-collusion thing wasn't getting enough traction."

"Oh, now it's Trump is paying off porn stars. Guess the obstruction of justice thing went nowhere."

Trumpsters actually believe that when Mueller finally issues his report it's going to say "Sorry. I got nuttin'."

They fail to realize that every few weeks or months multiple people, including judges, have to sign off on renewing warrants, subpoenas, wiretaps, etc. in order for the investigation to continue. That is in addition to AG Winstein approving of the investigation continuing. Trumpsters actually believe that all of these people are ready, willing, and able to put their reputations out there for a report that will reveal there is nothing untoward whatsoever.
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The Mueller investigation goes well beyond Trump.
 
The Mueller investigation goes well beyond Trump.

None of that matters if Mueller implicates Trump, as far as the Trumpsters are concerned. They are loyal to Trump, and Trump alone. The entire country could burn to the ground before they would admit Trump was the arsonist.
 
None of that matters if Mueller implicates Trump, as far as the Trumpsters are concerned. They are loyal to Trump, and Trump alone. The entire country could burn to the ground before they would admit Trump was the arsonist.

Implicates him in what?
 
It seems every day we are getting closer to having the evidence that at least Trump's people conspired with the Russians to help Trump win the election. Just so you know conspiring with a foreign nation to influence our elections is a felony. In the future we may learn that whether Trump was in some way involved or not. My question to those out there who still support Trump, does it even matter to you as long as Trump won? Is Trump being president more important than how he became president? Inquiring minds want to know.
So far the only real evidence we have of "working with the Russians" is your darling Hilary and her paying for the Steele dossier.
 
So far the only real evidence we have of "working with the Russians" is your darling Hilary and her paying for the Steele dossier.

lol...you elected a Russian spy president.
 
You really have quite the imagination and that might normally steer me to thinking you would be more appropriately placed in 1) :cuckoo: but I am going to stick with 2) :cuckoo: for now. But I am open minded and am willing to adjust this as necessary.

If you want to have a serious discussion about mental illness and political beliefs - I am all in for such a serious discussion. Just cut the third grade sniping which tires to save your own worn out backside and begin it.

There are not more vivid examples of willful mental delusion than Trumpkins who have put out their own eyes and shut down their own brains so they can still prostrate themselves before his debauched altar of slime.
 
If you want to have a serious discussion about mental illness and political beliefs - I am all in for such a serious discussion. Just cut the third grade sniping which tires to save your own worn out backside and begin it.

There are not more vivid examples of willful mental delusion than Trumpkins who have put out their own eyes and shut down their own brains so they can still prostrate themselves before his debauched altar of slime.

I dont have any delusions, thats the whole point. You do. There is no evidence that Trump has engaged in any collusion with Russia whatsoever. TYet, like the 911 Truthers, you guys are impervious to evidence and rational conversation. You cant debate Truthers, you ridicule them. Thats where we are.
 
I dont have any delusions, thats the whole point. You do. There is no evidence that Trump has engaged in any collusion with Russia whatsoever. TYet, like the 911 Truthers, you guys are impervious to evidence and rational conversation. You cant debate Truthers, you ridicule them. Thats where we are.

If you want to have a serious discussion about mental illness and political beliefs - I am all in for such a serious discussion. Just cut the third grade sniping which tires to save your own worn out backside and begin it.

There are not more vivid examples of willful mental delusion than Trumpkins who have put out their own eyes and shut down their own brains so they can still prostrate themselves before his debauched altar of slime.
 
If you want to have a serious discussion about mental illness and political beliefs - I am all in for such a serious discussion. Just cut the third grade sniping which tires to save your own worn out backside and begin it.

There are not more vivid examples of willful mental delusion than Trumpkins who have put out their own eyes and shut down their own brains so they can still prostrate themselves before his debauched altar of slime.

You are repeating yourself now. Im no doctor, but I think that only happens in very advanced stages of TDS. Could also be a side effect of this latest strain of Trutherism. Hard to say.
 
You are repeating yourself now. Im no doctor, but I think that only happens in very advanced stages of TDS. Could also be a side effect of this latest strain of Trutherism. Hard to say.

Two plus two is always worth repeating since the answer never changes.

If you seriously want to discuss political extremists breaking with reality and living in their own self imposed delusions - I will be happy to engage on that topic.
 
I dont have any delusions, thats the whole point. You do. There is no evidence that Trump has engaged in any collusion with Russia whatsoever. TYet, like the 911 Truthers, you guys are impervious to evidence and rational conversation. You cant debate Truthers, you ridicule them. Thats where we are.

Most rational people looking at Trump's many Russian connections, his sucking up to Putin, all his associates who've pleaded guilty or been convicted for lying about Russian connections, or his secret meetings with Putin believe it makes him look guilty. But you're right, until Mueller completes his investigation we have no proof. But it works both ways, what is this delusional 'evidence' that we're impervious to, if it doesn't exist?

If the investigation comes up empty, Trump should walk, but if my and everyone else's suspicions are correct and he does come up with the evidence, I trust you won't be impervious to it...
 
Most rational people looking at Trump's many Russian connections, his sucking up to Putin, all his associates who've pleaded guilty or been convicted for lying about Russian connections, or his secret meetings with Putin believe it makes him look guilty. But you're right, until Mueller completes his investigation we have no proof. But it works both ways, what is this delusional 'evidence' that we're impervious to, if it doesn't exist?

If the investigation comes up empty, Trump should walk, but if my and everyone else's suspicions are correct and he does come up with the evidence, I trust you won't be impervious to it...

I wont be impervious to evidence if some is discovered, but so far I havent seen any. I have yet to hear anyone spell out exactly what they thin Trump is guilty of. Collusion? How did he collude? Did he give the Russians Podestas password? What? Conspiracy? What was the conspiracy and who were the conspirators? Mueller has charged exactly no one in the Trump orbit with any crime whatsoever in relation to Russia and the 2016 election, so why would I, or anyone, believe some vast conspiracy took place?

Ah, but the Trump Tower meeting is proof, right? The Trump Tower meeting took place almost 3 years ago now. 3 years and no charges. If something criminal took place there, why wasnt Manafort charged? They threw the book at the guy, unraveled all of his complicated frauds from many years past, but charged him with nothing from the campaign. Why? With regard to Trump Tower, if anyone bears responsibility its Manafort. He was the campaign manager. He was the political pro. He should have known better. Yet no charges. What you guys are expecting me to do is buy into a conspiracy where there are no conspirators. Find me someone who did something wrong in 2016, then we can talk if his actions can be traced back to Trump. Until then, all I am seeing is what is nothing more than a new Trutherism
 
If you

There are not more vivid examples of willful mental delusion than Trumpkins lime.

Another liberal bubbler who has never heard of Trump Derangement syndrome.
#LAUGH OU LOUD
 
it must be. After all, for them, russians are better than democrats.

E.

#analysis->true
#bernie#harris#aoc#warren#loons#pander
 
Another liberal bubbler who has never heard of Trump Derangement syndrome.
#LAUGH OU LOUD

TDS - otherwise known as the disease of choice of Deplorables who support Trump no matter what reality dare to attempt to intrude on their own willful mental delusions.
 
I wont be impervious to evidence if some is discovered, but so far I havent seen any. I have yet to hear anyone spell out exactly what they thin Trump is guilty of. Collusion? How did he collude? Did he give the Russians Podestas password? What? Conspiracy? What was the conspiracy and who were the conspirators? Mueller has charged exactly no one in the Trump orbit with any crime whatsoever in relation to Russia and the 2016 election, so why would I, or anyone, believe some vast conspiracy took place?

Ah, but the Trump Tower meeting is proof, right? The Trump Tower meeting took place almost 3 years ago now. 3 years and no charges. If something criminal took place there, why wasnt Manafort charged? They threw the book at the guy, unraveled all of his complicated frauds from many years past, but charged him with nothing from the campaign. Why? With regard to Trump Tower, if anyone bears responsibility its Manafort. He was the campaign manager. He was the political pro. He should have known better. Yet no charges. What you guys are expecting me to do is buy into a conspiracy where there are no conspirators. Find me someone who did something wrong in 2016, then we can talk if his actions can be traced back to Trump. Until then, all I am seeing is what is nothing more than a new Trutherism

You keep saying you have seen no evidence. Would you ratter than Mueller, as has been done often in the past, do his investigation in the press. dropping "hints" as to what he has or has not found. Leaking like a sieve? Is that what you really want? I don't. I am willing to wait until we get the report from Mueller's team. Mueller has kept things on the down low until he indicts someone. No leaks and that is why I feel confident in the final report no matter what the man in the White House writes on his tweeter account. Of course most Trump cultists will not believe. Are you one of those who will not believe no matter what the evidence?
 
You keep saying you have seen no evidence. Would you ratter than Mueller, as has been done often in the past, do his investigation in the press. dropping "hints" as to what he has or has not found. Leaking like a sieve? Is that what you really want? I don't. I am willing to wait until we get the report from Mueller's team. Mueller has kept things on the down low until he indicts someone. No leaks and that is why I feel confident in the final report no matter what the man in the White House writes on his tweeter account. Of course most Trump cultists will not believe. Are you one of those who will not believe no matter what the evidence?

I answered that in the very first sentence of the post you quoted.
 
I answered that in the very first sentence of the post you quoted.

I am asking if you want Mueller to leak instead of keeping things tight? He has probably done better at stopping leaks than any investigation I have seen in my over 70 years. I find it both the right thing and refreshing to see that there is a man of integrity left in Washington. But to get back to my question, do you not want Mueller to do as he has done?
 
I wont be impervious to evidence if some is discovered, but so far I havent seen any. I have yet to hear anyone spell out exactly what they thin Trump is guilty of. Collusion? How did he collude? Did he give the Russians Podestas password? What? Conspiracy? What was the conspiracy and who were the conspirators? Mueller has charged exactly no one in the Trump orbit with any crime whatsoever in relation to Russia and the 2016 election, so why would I, or anyone, believe some vast conspiracy took place?

Ah, but the Trump Tower meeting is proof, right? The Trump Tower meeting took place almost 3 years ago now. 3 years and no charges. If something criminal took place there, why wasnt Manafort charged? They threw the book at the guy, unraveled all of his complicated frauds from many years past, but charged him with nothing from the campaign. Why? With regard to Trump Tower, if anyone bears responsibility its Manafort. He was the campaign manager. He was the political pro. He should have known better. Yet no charges. What you guys are expecting me to do is buy into a conspiracy where there are no conspirators. Find me someone who did something wrong in 2016, then we can talk if his actions can be traced back to Trump. Until then, all I am seeing is what is nothing more than a new Trutherism

Well that's good to hear, if he comes up with the evidence. Regarding all your questions, they'll be answered when the investigation is complete. As I said, we have our suspicions about his guilt and you have yours about his innocence.

Until Mueller tells us what he has, your denials are nothing more than a new Trutherism also...
 
Well that's good to hear, if he comes up with the evidence. Regarding all your questions, they'll be answered when the investigation is complete. As I said, we have our suspicions about his guilt and you have yours about his innocence.

Until Mueller tells us what he has, your denials are nothing more than a new Trutherism also...

No thats not Trutherism, its the presumption of innocence.
 
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