Trump's Plan to Steal the Election and kill Democracy

[Ikari]

I don't know if that's something he'd be able to do. I mean, if we're playing at hypotheticals, it would be cause to forcibly remove him. But I don't think it will come to that because the story outlined in the article seems exceedingly far fetched and the SCOTUS already struck down faithless electors.

 

[Mycroft]

Trump's Plan to Steal the Election and kill Democracy...

The Election That Could Break America

If the vote is close, Donald Trump could easily throw the election into chaos and subvert the result. Who will stop him?

www.theatlantic.com

I'm curious.

Do the Trump supporters on this forum support such a maneuver?

I am against this notion, however...if it's legal and if it's used, tough shit, Dems.

At least Trump hasn't done anything illegal. Can't say the same about you guys.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

I don't really want to blow this up simply because the topic is itself so destructive. That said, you're doubting that cultists would do what the cult leader is telling them to do.

I for one am surprised that our Constitution possesses so many mechanisms for turning the country from a democracy into a dictatorship. The Founding Fathers did a pretty good job considering the challenges of the time, but honestly...they didn't do good enough.

Wellll THAT is a whole other convo. I actually don’t think they did any kind of a good job. I think now that we have seen what checks and balances really mean, they either set up something that was so weak it has no real protections for our democracy OR they wanted as many trap doors for their own corruption as possible.

Trump cultists might try to do whatever but they don’t get the final word. We keep reacting to these things like it’s just the GOP that has lawyers and lawmakers and voters and and and. I understand the GOP wants to cheat, and Trump really wants to cheat. I just don’t think any of it is gonna look like a coup.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

I don't know if that's something he'd be able to do. I mean, if we're playing at hypotheticals, it would be cause to forcibly remove him. But I don't think it will come to that because the story outlined in the article seems exceedingly far fetched and the SCOTUS already struck down faithless electors.

I’ll give the right wingers this: I don’t buy into TDS, but I do think there is a cottage industry in the media that plays on lefty terror over Trump.

 

[Simpletruther]

We have reached a point where both sides will do whatever is possible. Therefore both sides bases will support it period.

Threatening payback if it's done then becomes moot because the other side would do it regardless

As an example the Dems have threatened impeachment for trump literally doing his job on scotus. No kind of crazy this g is off the table now because both sides supporters will back them on it

 

[Novichok]

Trump's Plan to Steal the Election and kill Democracy...

The Election That Could Break America

If the vote is close, Donald Trump could easily throw the election into chaos and subvert the result. Who will stop him?

www.theatlantic.com

I'm curious.

Do the Trump supporters on this forum support such a maneuver?

I'm curious. Did you report their plans to steal and kill to the police? You do know that just the conspiracy to commit a felony is a felony, right?

 

[Cardinal]

Wellll THAT is a whole other convo. I actually don’t think they did any kind of a good job. I think now that we have seen what checks and balances really mean, they either set up something that was so weak it has no real protections for our democracy OR they wanted as many trap doors for their own corruption as possible.

Trump cultists might try to do whatever but they don’t get the final word. We keep reacting to these things like it’s just the GOP that has lawyers and lawmakers and voters and and and. I understand the GOP wants to cheat, and Trump really wants to cheat. I just don’t think any of it is gonna look like a coup.

Obviously I hope you're right, but I'll just say this: if I'm having troubles paying my bills and "rob a bank" is on a list of possible solutions, then you can safely assume that I'm the kind of person who would rob a bank.

 

[Ikari]

I’ll give the right wingers this: I don’t buy into TDS, but I do think there is a cottage industry in the media that plays on lefty terror over Trump.

Well part of that is that Trump really is god awful. Possibly the worst President we've had, certainly the worst I've ever seen, and that includes Clinton and Bush 2.

But it makes headlines and headlines make ratings and ratings make profit. This is why I listen to NPR, lol.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

I wish I shared your confidence. I think Trump is more than capable of doing all of this.

Unless Trump is somehow physically in danger, he is willing to do ANYTHING. It doesn't take "stones" for him to do this, because he legitimately believes he has a right to perform these actions. The man is mentally ill and evil in every sense of the word. He literally does not understand right from wrong.

I am confident Donald Trump is a loser of historical levels and we have seen that if he needs to walk 2 feet he’ll **** up 18 inches of it.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Well part of that is that Trump really is god awful. Possibly the worst President we've had, certainly the worst I've ever seen, and that includes Clinton and Bush 2.

But it makes headlines and headlines make ratings and ratings make profit. This is why I listen to NPR, lol.

Oh, he’s going to be one of the greatest villains in our history. He’s not a bad potus. He would need to work to get to that.

I am blocking more and more news and twitter and and as we get closer to the election. The GOP and media are already trying to position the SC nom as a fight over catholicism. Not interested.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Obviously I hope you're right, but I'll just say this: if I'm having troubles paying my bills and "rob a bank" is on a list of possible solutions, then you can safely assume that I'm the kind of person who would rob a bank.

I do not doubt Trump’s desire. The spirit is willing. The flesh is stupid and surrounded by even dumber more incompetent flesh.

And he’s a coward. Don’t ever underestimate that. He’d be in personal physical danger if he pulled off an actual coup. Donnie ain’t volunteering for a war so many decades after his bone spurs acted up.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

I am confident Donald Trump is a loser of historical levels and we have seen that if he needs to walk 2 feet he’ll **** up 18 inches of it.

He has other competent minions, like William Barr, telling him what he can do to prevent a "decisive result" in this election. If Trump muddies the water enough on 3 Nov and the days/weeks after that, anything is possible at that point.

 

[Cardinal]

I’ll give the right wingers this: I don’t buy into TDS, but I do think there is a cottage industry in the media that plays on lefty terror over Trump.

That's not an unfair point. The NYTimes is one of the news outlets I consider to be the "gold standard" for reporting, so you can imagine how annoyed I was by an article last week reporting how much Biden would lose if the polls were as wrong as they were in 2016. It was a stupid and pointless article gratuitously playing on the fears of the left.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

That's not an unfair point. The NYTimes is one of the news outlets I consider to be the "gold standard" for reporting, so you can imagine how annoyed I was by an article last week reporting how much Biden would lose if the polls were as wrong as they were in 2016. It was a stupid and pointless article gratuitously playing on the fears of the left.

They don’t have a horse race this cycle and they know it. The race itself has been boringly vanilla ass stable for months. And the stories they do have - covid, the economy - don’t play into a both sides filter. Silver, Enten, etc have nothing to give us this cycle and the media has no clue how to even cover an election unless they can obsess over polling. (It’s not an accident that as polling has been stable, polling segments on news stations have been given less airtime. It ain’t just covid. It’s not news to report that Trump is down virtually everywhere at this point.)

 

[Bassman]

And the dishonest both-sidesing begins. Democrats haven't done anything like this.

Sure they have, otherwise we would not have had to endure Obunghole for eight long torturous years.

 

[Cardinal]

They don’t have a horse race this cycle and they know it. The race itself has been boringly vanilla ass stable for months. And the stories they do have - covid, the economy - don’t play into a both sides filter. Silver, Enten, etc have nothing to give us this cycle and the media has no clue how to even cover an election unless they can obsess over polling. (It’s not an accident that as polling has been stable, polling segments on news stations have been given less airtime. It ain’t just covid. It’s not news to report that Trump is down virtually everywhere at this point.)

Heh, even Silver made a point of how boring the polls were, something to the effect of, "You people don't get how boringly stable the polling has been, but go ahead and reload the 538 forecast page for the 400th time today."

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

I do not doubt Trump’s desire. The spirit is willing. The flesh is stupid and surrounded by even dumber more incompetent flesh.

And he’s a coward. Don’t ever underestimate that. He’d be in personal physical danger if he pulled off an actual coup. Donnie ain’t volunteering for a war so many decades after his bone spurs acted up.

How will Trump be in physical danger holed up in the White House? Are 5,000 protestors going to storm it? I doubt it.

If there is a "decisive outcome", then, yeah, I think Trump will be escorted out of the WH without much problem. If there is not a "decisive outcome", then all bets are off.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

That's not an unfair point. The NYTimes is one of the news outlets I consider to be the "gold standard" for reporting, so you can imagine how annoyed I was by an article last week reporting how much Biden would lose if the polls were as wrong as they were in 2016. It was a stupid and pointless article gratuitously playing on the fears of the left.

Were the polls wrong? The national polls showed Clinton winning by 2% - 3%. That is what happened. Maybe some of the state polls were wrong, I don't know.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

How will Trump be in physical danger holed up in the White House? Are 5,000 protestors going to storm it? I doubt it.

If there is a "decisive outcome", then, yeah, I think Trump will be escorted out of the WH without much problem. If there is not a "decisive outcome", then all bets are off.

If we are gaming out a literal coup, he will need to stay in that bunker to protect himself. It’s what happens in countries taht aren’t armed to the teeth and have coups. There are how many guns out there?

Sure. Any shot Trump has of retaining power requires a super cose election margin either way. And if that happens...I mean...he kinda won. Country is over anyway, no?

 

[Cardinal]

Were the polls wrong? The national polls showed Clinton winning by 2% - 3%. That is what happened. Maybe some of the state polls were wrong, I don't know.

Which is why I called the article "stupid" in addition to saying it gratuitously played on the fears of the left.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

If we are gaming out a literal coup, he will need to stay in that bunker to protect himself. It’s what happens in countries taht aren’t armed to the teeth and have coups. There are how many guns out there?

Sure. Any shot Trump has of retaining power requires a super cose election margin either way. And if that happens...I mean...he kinda won. Country is over anyway, no?

I don't think the vote count is going to matter much, the longer the vote count drags out. Trump will find a way to muddy the waters and declare the vote count illegitimate.

Bernie Sanders is correct -- most of the ballots must be counted on 3 Nov. If the vote count drags on for days or weeks due to mail-in ballots, then Trump is going to find a way to steal the election.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

I don't think the vote count is going to matter much, the longer the vote count drags out. Trump will find a way to muddy the waters and declare the vote count illegitimate.

Bernie Sanders is correct -- most of the ballots must be counted on 3 Nov. If the vote count drags on for days or weeks due to mail-in ballots, then Trump is going to find a way to steal the election.

I don’t care what Bernie or anyone else says. There is no rule that says ballots must be counted by Nov 3rd.

We are counting all the votes this time. Believe it. And it’s not even gonna be close anyway. HE’s a turd that‘s about to be flushed.

 

[calamity]

Trump's Plan to Steal the Election and kill Democracy...

The Election That Could Break America

If the vote is close, Donald Trump could easily throw the election into chaos and subvert the result. Who will stop him?

www.theatlantic.com

I'm curious.

Do the Trump supporters on this forum support such a maneuver?

That would be a sure fire way to start a revolution.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

I don’t care what Bernie or anyone else says. There is no rule that says ballots must be counted by Nov 3rd.

We are counting all the votes this time. Believe it. And it’s not even gonna be close anyway. HE’s a turd that‘s about to be flushed.

Of course there is no rule that says the votes must be counted on 3 Nov. But we better do it.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Of course there is no rule that says the votes must be counted on 3 Nov. But we better do it.

I just don’t agree. I have no idea who sent the memo out that we need to play by made up rules that Donald Trump demands, and less idea who thinks we need to adhere to it.

*I* do not care what he or his dumb media screetches.