LMAO you leftists didn't whine about debt when BO double it. All of a sudden debt is very, very important? LOL Get real.
Since when have leftists been concerned with pissing money away?
How is it different from Blacks voting for Obama at the time, or for Hillary now, because both were and are pandering for their votes?
Trump is a clown, but he isn't the racist and neither are his supporters. Look at the other side more carefully
Why is it assumed that if a white person loves his own people, he must hate others?
There is a difference between "loving your own people" and thinking "my people are superior to other races."
As many who have followed Trump's campaign closely knows, the link between Trump and racist supporters is nearly undeniable. Prominent white supremacists have voiced their explicit support for Trump, some have recorded robocalls encouraging white individuals to vote for Trump, and white supremacist groups have repeatedly shown up to Trump rallies. The reason for their support is numerous, but they likely have viewed Trump's unwillingness to condemn their group, their level of access to his campaign, or that his speeches are eerily similar to KKK speeches from the 1920s as implicit, if not explicit, endorsement.
However, this Washington Post article really delves into some data to back up the anecdotal stories outlined above. For example, this Pew Research Poll released Thursday found that while 59 percent of voters nationwide believe that diversity is beneficial to America and that only 8 percent believe diversity makes America worse, those numbers are 39% and 17% respectively for Trump supporters. And the data doesn't stop there. This analysis of a Post/ABC News Poll found that economic anxiety was just as predictive, if not slightly less so, than those expressed concern over whether whites are losing out because of preferences towards black and latino individuals. And that factor persisted even after controlling for other variables, like demographics or attitudes. The article goes to cite more data, like the link between Trump support in an area and higher middle-aged white death rates or in areas where the number of google search queries that are racists are high.
Many of Trump’s supporters have racist motivations for backing him: Not all — but a lot of ’em. And while it is unfair to paint all Trump backers as bigoted, it’s impossible to ignore a growing volume of public-opinion data showing that a large number of his supporters are indeed driven by racial animus.
So then don't vote for Trump. Nobody's forcing you to do it. Why do you care what his dopey supporters think? The white racists usually vote for the Republicans anyway.
As many who have followed Trump's campaign closely knows, the link between Trump and racist supporters is nearly undeniable. Prominent white supremacists have voiced their explicit support for Trump, some have recorded robocalls encouraging white individuals to vote for Trump, and white supremacist groups have repeatedly shown up to Trump rallies. The reason for their support is numerous, but they likely have viewed Trump's unwillingness to condemn their group, their level of access to his campaign, or that his speeches are eerily similar to KKK speeches from the 1920s as implicit, if not explicit, endorsement.
However, this Washington Post article really delves into some data to back up the anecdotal stories outlined above. For example, this Pew Research Poll released Thursday found that while 59 percent of voters nationwide believe that diversity is beneficial to America and that only 8 percent believe diversity makes America worse, those numbers are 39% and 17% respectively for Trump supporters. And the data doesn't stop there. This analysis of a Post/ABC News Poll found that economic anxiety was just as predictive, if not slightly less so, than those expressed concern over whether whites are losing out because of preferences towards black and latino individuals. And that factor persisted even after controlling for other variables, like demographics or attitudes. The article goes to cite more data, like the link between Trump support in an area and higher middle-aged white death rates or in areas where the number of google search queries that are racists are high.
Many of Trump’s supporters have racist motivations for backing him: Not all — but a lot of ’em. And while it is unfair to paint all Trump backers as bigoted, it’s impossible to ignore a growing volume of public-opinion data showing that a large number of his supporters are indeed driven by racial animus.
Most Trump supporters are usually white working middle class with lower education and some degree of racial bias. Workers tire of endless regulations , taxes , and 4th generation welfare . Those that are tired of illegals invading our Country and costing taxpayers billions for their schooling , healthcare , food stamps , etc. And as we all know the left loves to label everyone racist if they disagree with their views .
I couldn't read any of the Washington Post links. Apparently I've reached my limit for the month in reading them. :shrug: Stupid pay walls. Anyways, mind showing me where in all of that it shows the respondents as being racist? Or is that just insinuated by your WP sources? I can't tell since I can't access them.
approval of deporting undocumented immigrants, strong feelings that the government is dysfunctional, and support for banning Muslims from entering the United States. (Authoritarian child-rearing attitudes, believed by some to be closely related to Trump support, were less predictive.)
Went ahead and fixed that one for you. And listen, I get the argument that economic anxiety is connected with support for Trump - this research finds that to be a good predictor as well. But the fact is that there are multiple reasons, as outlined above and that go beyond the mere "that's a classic leftist attack," to say that one of the strongest predictive links between a voter and their support for Trump are racial biases and racial anxiety.
I disagree. First off candidates do not pick their supporters and Trump is not the first to have this happen to them. Secondly, I disagree that a large number of his supporters are racists, heck every candidate has racists that support them, (note: not all racists are white), he just has a few more than some of the other candidates and a few are of the vocal variety. All that said, Trump is not in any way fashion or form Presidential material and his lead in the GOP only shows how far this Nation has fallen in demanding quality and substance of our leaders.As many who have followed Trump's campaign closely knows, the link between Trump and racist supporters is nearly undeniable. Prominent white supremacists have voiced their explicit support for Trump, some have recorded robocalls encouraging white individuals to vote for Trump, and white supremacist groups have repeatedly shown up to Trump rallies. The reason for their support is numerous, but they likely have viewed Trump's unwillingness to condemn their group, their level of access to his campaign, or that his speeches are eerily similar to KKK speeches from the 1920s as implicit, if not explicit, endorsement.
However, this Washington Post article really delves into some data to back up the anecdotal stories outlined above. For example, this Pew Research Poll released Thursday found that while 59 percent of voters nationwide believe that diversity is beneficial to America and that only 8 percent believe diversity makes America worse, those numbers are 39% and 17% respectively for Trump supporters. And the data doesn't stop there. This analysis of a Post/ABC News Poll found that economic anxiety was just as predictive, if not slightly less so, than those expressed concern over whether whites are losing out because of preferences towards black and latino individuals. And that factor persisted even after controlling for other variables, like demographics or attitudes. The article goes to cite more data, like the link between Trump support in an area and higher middle-aged white death rates or in areas where the number of google search queries that are racists are high.
Many of Trump’s supporters have racist motivations for backing him: Not all — but a lot of ’em. And while it is unfair to paint all Trump backers as bigoted, it’s impossible to ignore a growing volume of public-opinion data showing that a large number of his supporters are indeed driven by racial animus.
I disagree. First off candidates do not pick their supporters and Trump is not the first to have this happen to them. Secondly, I disagree that a large number of his supporters are racists, heck every candidate has racists that support them, (note: not all racists are white), he just has a few more than some of the other candidates and a few are of the vocal variety. All that said, Trump is not in any way fashion or form Presidential material and his lead in the GOP only shows how far this Nation has fallen in demanding quality and substance of our leaders.
Wait...I don't understand your argument. What are you disagreeing with? That Trump has a higher proportion of racist supporters or that these individuals can be classified as racists? Or are you making the argument that his higher proportion of racist supporters doesn't really matter because all candidates have racist supporters, to some extent?
And as I pointed out to others, the extent of reasoning for why these individuals are supporters doesn't stop at the fact that they are predominantly white. The research delves into their specifically racist attitudes and beliefs as well.
As to your assessment of Trump, you'll get no argument from me there.
Why is it assumed that if a white person loves his own people, he must hate others?
It is just skin pigment for God's sake.
That is really odd - I haven't run across that pay wall issue before...hmm...anyways, it isn't like this article found some poll where it asked Trump supporters, "Are you a racist?" And then a significant percentage respondent in the affirmative. It relies on somewhat circumstantial evidence.
I suppose to some extent it depends on whether you consider that a belief that diversity hurts America to be evidence of a racist belief, or whether you believe concern that whites are losing out because of preferences towards latinos and blacks is evidence of a racist belief, or whether a geographic link between support for Trump and racist google search queries is evidence of a racist belief. The article also notes some other predictive factors for Trump supporters that are just as likely, or possibly more so, to predict support for Trump (quoted below) and, for some, it would be reasonable to believe that these are also evidence of a racist belief system - but to a lesser degree than the three I outlined just now.
As evidenced by many of the respondents to this thread, the notion that all of the above discussed predictive links are individually and collectively evidence of a racist belief system is apparently a questionable conclusion.
How cliche. Sad. Leftists can't do any better than cry racism. ROTFLMAO
I went through that pew research study and when it came to the question about diversity I saw the chart and then looked for the question. Know what the difference was? The chart has it broken down by candidate. The question (question 62 btw) doesn't even have it broken down into parties, much less candidates. So how would they know who supports what on that chart?
Next their percentage of error is, quite frankly amazingly huge. Most studies only allow for an error percentage of 1-2 points. This one has 8.1 percentage points for Kasich supporters alone. Trump supporters at 6.1. Cruz supporters at 6.9. Hillary and Sanders 5.3 and 6.1 respectively. In a world full of studies, those error points would be highly questionable.
And yes, it is a questionable conclusion. There is no doubt that there are racists that support Trump. But there is also a conflict in what is and isn't considered racism. IIRC you and I even disagree on what is and isn't racist. Though I may be thinking of someone else. :shrug:
A valid question, but not one that I could answer without asking the author of the article. Perhaps they interviewed the researcher or reviewed his notes and the data that they obtained from the Pew Research center is a bit more explicit compared to what was contained in the report.
You're delving into a margin of error issues which is a direct result of how many of those specific supporters that they managed to interview. A margin of error of ~6 points still means that they would have surveyed roughly 3-400 individuals of each supporter. Certainly a statistician would want as much data as possible, but that margin is enough to draw some conclusions. And given the rest of the anecdotal evidence and the other statistical analysis conducted, the conclusion that more racists support Trump is still a valid one.
I'm not sure on that point. I tend to believe that the KKK represents a racist group and that other groups which hold themselves out to be white supremacists groups would also classify as a racist group. And given the unwillingness by Trump to reject the KKK during the interview, the fact that white supremacists groups recorded robocalls for Trump, and the fact that Trump's campaign allowed white supremacist groups access to their campaign (an interview with his son specifically), I stand by the conclusion that Trump attracts a higher proportion of racists.
2) If a stranger on my block walks down the street and screams "VElvis hates girl scout cookies," and I refuse to respond (probably because he's a kook, and I just don't want to get into it with him), does that make his claim accurate? (Mind you...I am a self-proclaimed Samoa addict. I just don't shout it from the rooftops.)I tend to believe that the KKK represents a racist group and that other groups which hold themselves out to be white supremacists groups would also classify as a racist group. And given the unwillingness by Trump to reject the KKK during the interview, the fact that white supremacists groups recorded robocalls for Trump, and the fact that Trump's campaign allowed white supremacist groups access to their campaign (an interview with his son specifically), I stand by the conclusion that Trump attracts a higher proportion of racists.
"Perhaps", "maybe", "shoulda coulda woulda". We could speculate all day. The point of putting out that study the way that they did was to show their methods and how things were asked. If they didn't include all of it then either the parts that they didn't include were not valid enough or they were trying to hide something. I'm going to easily give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that the parts they didn't include were found to not be valid. Either way, speculating on it isn't going to solve anything.
I can't remember where I heard it, but for an accurate study to be done statistic wise on something specific you need at least 1000-2000 respondents. Less than that and the errors increase exponentially. 3-400 people is not something I would bet any money on. Here's the table for their samples...
Lot of Numbers
They have the 2+k respondents. But they don't have near that amount when measuring candidate supporters individually.
All circumstantial. Never hold up in a court of law.
2) If a stranger on my block walks down the street and screams "VElvis hates girl scout cookies," and I refuse to respond (probably because he's a kook, and I just don't want to get into it with him), does that make his claim accurate? (Mind you...I am a self-proclaimed Samoa addict. I just don't shout it from the rooftops.)
3) If that same kooky stranger decided to tell the girl scouts that he's Velvis (when he's not), and he tells the neighborhood girl scout, that he hates her cookies. Does that mean I have to hate those cookies too?
Your little association game is weaksauce. Come back when he specifically says that he supports a specific group, and not when he ignores one. Otherwise, it's just as easy to say that Hillary and Bernie HATE rich people, and want EVERYONE to be poor. Two can play this stupid game.
If you truly believe that an unwillingness to disassociate yourself from a very obviously racist group when you are asked about it specifically and repeatedly (not just some guy walking down the street) is not evidence of racism (or at least pretending to be a racist), then I am not going to convince you otherwise.
Is there a reason why conservatives such as yourself find it so important to deny that racism exists?
After a while, a man could get to thinking that it has something to do with an agenda....
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