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Trump's Assault On the Republic

bluesmoke said:
But if you protest, LEO show up in riot gear with military vehicles/equipment. But as long as you're in camo and wearing armor while bearing an assault rifle with a MAGA hat on, you're OK.
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The latter isn't burning and looting.
 
OceanBlues1 said:
I don't think it's BS at all; in fact, I think it's 100% accurate. What else would you call a "president" who makes a call to "get rid of the ballots" as Trump has done? I don't know about you, but I call him a would-be dictator. And autocrat. Both terms fit him perfectly in my book. I don't want a dictator running the U.S., I want a real President, something Trump has never been and never could be.
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The President states opinions. Most people do so. I happen to like the idea that the Democrat-Socialists are encouraging their sheeple to vote by mail.

The rejection rate of ballots cast by mail this year has been about 10 times the rate of Absentee Ballots and astronomically higher than the traditional vote in person.

If ALL Democrat-Socialists vote by mail, the impact of their votes will be reduced by about 20%.

You are confusing stating an opinion with issuing an order.

Another "opinion" that the President has voiced is that if he endorses anything, the Democrat-Socialists will oppose it. I wonder why he would say that vote in person is his preference... ;)

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apdst said:
The latter isn't burning and looting.
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You can't prove that protesters are burning and looting. It's the protesters that are being killed by getting shot and driven into by people who are not protesters. That's a fact. You can't provide evidence of fact. Pictures of people "burning and looting" doesn't prove those people are there to protest.
 
bluesmoke said:
You can't prove that protesters are burning and looting. It's the protesters that are being killed by getting shot and driven into by people who are not protesters. That's a fact. You can't provide evidence of fact. Pictures of people "burning and looting" doesn't prove those people are there to protest.
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The people blocking the road, shooting innocent motorists and busting car windows are rioters, too.
 
bluesmoke said:
You can't prove that protesters are burning and looting. It's the protesters that are being killed by getting shot and driven into by people who are not protesters. That's a fact. You can't provide evidence of fact. Pictures of people "burning and looting" doesn't prove those people are there to protest.
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You seem to be confused. I am upset by the miscreants that burn and loot. These folks also fire bomb churches, terrorize citizens and interrupt the lives of others by their actions.

I don't know why you immediately assume that the Peaceful Protesters are the people that are burning and looting, fire bombing churches, terrorizing citizens and interrupting the lives of others.

Are you asserting that violence is peaceful?
 
apdst said:
The people blocking the road, shooting innocent motorists and busting car windows are rioters, too.
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People blocking the road are probably protestors, but not necessarily rioters.

People shooting motorist are murderers and those busting car windows are vandals. Both could be rioters, too. You don't know that they had been genuine protestors but if so, once they engage in such violence and prop damage they are no longer protesters.
 
Mycroft said:
So...now "poll watchers" are "rioters".

TDS is a terrible affliction. calamity...you have my sympathy.
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So how do you explain the rush order Trump's people have placed for 50,000 brown shirts?
 
code1211 said:
You seem to be confused. I am upset by the miscreants that burn and loot. These folks also fire bomb churches, terrorize citizens and interrupt the lives of others by their actions.

I don't know why you immediately assume that the Peaceful Protesters are the people that are burning and looting, fire bombing churches, terrorizing citizens and interrupting the lives of others.

Are you asserting that violence is peaceful?
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code1211 said:
You seem to be confused. I am upset by the miscreants that burn and loot. These folks also fire bomb churches, terrorize citizens and interrupt the lives of others by their actions.

I don't know why you immediately assume that the Peaceful Protesters are the people that are burning and looting, fire bombing churches, terrorizing citizens and interrupting the lives of others.

Are you asserting that violence is peaceful?
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I’d be happy to reply to your post after you give a forthright reply to my post #42, which you have not. As it is, that was a follow-up to my post #40 to which you avoided giving a direct answer.

My experience with you is that I give you info that you ask for and all you give me is the runaround. A forthright reply would be a welcome change.
 
bluesmoke said:
I’d be happy to reply to your post after you give a forthright reply to my post #42, which you have not. As it is, that was a follow-up to my post #40 to which you avoided giving a direct answer.

My experience with you is that I give you info that you ask for and all you give me is the runaround. A forthright reply would be a welcome change.
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Your thesis seems to be that the President is a dictator. I disagree.

You have that opinion and it is not supported by real world fact.
 
code1211 said:
Your thesis seems to be that the President is a dictator. I disagree.

You have that opinion and it is not supported by real world fact.
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Like I said, the runaround.
 
bluesmoke said:
Like I said, the runaround.
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I am saying that what you assert does not exist in the real world.

If it does exist in the real world, you should be able to link to evidence.
 
calamity said:
So, now he wants his Freikorps to monitor the polls on election day.
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Yep. Haven't the dictators of the past (think Hitler, Mussolini for starters) done pretty much the same thing?
 
code1211 said:
You connected autocracy and dictatorship to the President. That is complete and utter BS.
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No, I think that connection of autocracy and dictatorship to Trump is entirely accurate. Why? Because the way I see it, that's the way he's been behaving, and his behavior is getting worse by the day.
 
OceanBlues1 said:
No, I think that connection of autocracy and dictatorship to Trump is entirely accurate. Why? Because the way I see it, that's the way he's been behaving, and his behavior is getting worse by the day.
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Can you cite an occasion when your imagined transgressions actually resulted in "autocracy and dictatorship" in the real world?
 
code1211 said:
I am saying that what you assert does not exist in the real world.

If it does exist in the real world, you should be able to link to evidence.
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And I'm saying you made your assertion before mine and have yet to back it up as I've asked. Then, in order, I will respond to your request, in context. If you can't follow debate order, be forthright and honest, we're done here. You're being evasive and disingenuous. You either made a claim w/o knowing if it was correct or not, and are too lazy, which is part of your MO, to do the necessary research to find support for your own claim, or you have the info you think supports what you say and refuse to provide it. See you on another thread.
 
bluesmoke said:
And I'm saying you made your assertion before mine and have yet to back it up as I've asked. Then, in order, I will respond to your request, in context. If you can't follow debate order, be forthright and honest, we're done here. You're being evasive and disingenuous. You either made a claim w/o knowing if it was correct or not, and are too lazy, which is part of your MO, to do the necessary research to find support for your own claim, or you have the info you think supports what you say and refuse to provide it. See you on another thread.
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Post 42 picks up after this conversation started. The conversation started with this post(s):

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bluesmoke said:
The great thing about a democracy is the people can choose to be led by a dictator and/or have an autocracy. We can choose to give up the right to vote of ourselves and everyone just as the Trump Cult, perhaps best exemplified by QAnon, have given up reasoning and possession of rational mind.
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(Then Code said): Why do the folks, like you, demanding that the President abandon his consistent allegiance to the rule of law ignore the FACT that he is acting within the law?"

The president has consistently acted within the law and folks that are raving about whatever their delusion of the moment might be charge that he is not doing so.

You are one of this group and you continue to do so.
 
code1211 said:
Post 42 picks up after this conversation started. The conversation started with this post(s):

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(Then Code said): Why do the folks, like you, demanding that the President abandon his consistent allegiance to the rule of law ignore the FACT that he is acting within the law?"

The president has consistently acted within the law and folks that are raving about whatever their of the moment might be charge that he is not doing so.

You are one of this group and you continue to do so.
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And, again, you cannot cite what "rule of law" is being asked of Trump that "folks, like you (me)" is demanding he abandon. You're just running in circles. You can't give evidence of fact to support your claim, which is part of code MO, and thus your claim is unfounded and need not be debated further. We're done here.
 
bluesmoke said:
And, again, you cannot cite what "rule of law" is being asked of Trump that "folks, like you (me)" is demanding he abandon. You're just running in circles. You can't give evidence of fact to support your claim, which is part of code MO, and thus your claim is unfounded and need not be debated further. We're done here.
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Oh! I didn't know that you were a Trump supporter.

Good for you! I'm glad you have gained some semblance of rationality.
 
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