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Trump's Acceptance Speech: Let's Count the Highlights and the Lies

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The highlights:

  • 2nd longest acceptance speech by a presidential candidate in U.S. history. 2nd only to the acceptance speech Trump gave in 2016. (Yes, Trump is a long-winded, lying gas-bag).
  • Just a grotesque desecration, using the White House as a partisan political prop. The sight of two 10-foot tall Trump/Pence campaign signs on the front lawn of OUR PROPERTY (i.e. the WH) was the stuff of tin-pot dictatorships and/or monarchies...NOT the greatest democracy in the history of humanity, The United States of America. Just disgusting and embarrassing to any decent American.
  • EVERY single cabinet official sitting in the front row tonight was in BLATANT VIOLATION of the Hatch Act, as was Ivanka the moment she began her campaign speech. Just one more in the endless string of desecrations of the Constitution and the rule of law under this criminal presidency.
  • The presence (in camera sight) of the newly erected iron fencing surrounding the WH (to keep real Americans out) was symbolically stunning.
  • The whole damn family is, objectively, a bunch of lying, amoral cretins.
  • Not one mention of the 10+ million small businesses that have failed in the last 7 months.
  • A guest list of 2000+ GOP VIP's, and ZERO masks, ZERO social distancing. Trump told the world that he's the moron who held a Super-Spreader Event...and televised it! And all of them signed waivers to be there. Trump people are such idiots!


Now, to the most obvious/blatant lies:
  • COVID-19 Cures: No, there is NOT an approved "life saving therapy" for COVID-19. And there is ZERO change of a proven vaccine for COVID-19 by the "end of the year". ZERO.
  • COVID-19 Treatment: No, convalescent plasma is NOT yet proven to be an effective treatment for COVID-19. It has shown promise, but has not be proven effective yet.
  • COVID TESTS: The U.S. has the WORST COVID19 Testing system in the developed world, NOT "the best". We have 4% of the world's population, and 25% of the world's deaths due to COVID-19. Trump's performance has been an utter disaster. Worse that Bush's response to Katrina, by orders of magnitude that are practically immeasurable.
  • Abortion: Joe Biden does NOT support abortion up to the moment of birth.
  • COPS Endorsement: The NYPD has NOT endorsed Trump.
  • The Wall: Trump has NOT built 300 miles of border wall. According to TRUMP'S OWN DHS, a GRAND TOTAL of 3 MILES of new wall has been built under Trump's leadership. And Mexico has NOT contributed ONE CENT to the process.
  • Veterans Health Care: Barack Obama signed into law the Veterans' Choice Act, not Trump.
  • Bringing our Troops home: Trump has NOT brought home the troops. There are, as of this very day, MORE troops stationed abroad than when Trump took office.
  • Ending Wars: Trump has NOT ended a single war, as he promised (and as he claimed/lied tonight).
  • Energy: Joe Biden has NOT promised to end energy production in the U.S.
  • The Suburbs: Joe Biden has NOT pledged to "abolish the suburbs".
  • Pre-Existing Conditions: As Trump promises to "protect pre-existing conditions" the FACT is that Trump's own DOJ is arguing in multiple federal court cases RIGHT NOW to end ALL pre-existing conditions protections under the ACA. The seminal case is set to be argued before the USSC exactly 1 week AFTER the election (i.e. November 10). If successful, pre-existing conditions protections will no longer exist for anyone. This is one of the most sinister lies of all, and that's saying a lot, given the mendacity of this the most dishonest president in U.S. history.
  • Gas Prices: are not historically low, and (more importantly) have NOTHING to do with any Trump policy.
  • Black/Brown Unemployment: the FACTS show UE numbers have simply continued the SAME downward trajectory that Trump inherited from Obama....while the median income trend has worsened (even BEFORE the pandemic hit).
 
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The highlight to me is the overarching illogic of it in its entirety.

Donald has the job now. Pointing to the wreckage around him NOW and suggesting that its Biden's mess or anybody else's mess is a laughable absurdity. His base might lap it up just like all the other Donald crap they lap up. Other than his base, not so much.

Whining about DEM Governors and DEM Mayors are not going to help Donald either. The same dynamics between the Federal Government and State and Local Government exist today that existed in 2017 when Trump took office claiming that "only he could fix it". Ah-huh. Not very fixed is it Donald.

The entire GOP convention was the Trump Victimization, POOR DONALD Narrative show just as his term in office has been the POOR DONALD Victimization Narrative show. It works for his base because they have their own victimization narrative and they can all together stew in their own juice.

i do commend your effort to pick at the particulars.
 

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The highlights:

  • 2nd longest acceptance speech by a presidential candidate in U.S. history. 2nd only to the acceptance speech Trump gave in 2016. (Yes, Trump is a long-winded, lying gas-bag).
  • Just a grotesque desecration, using the White House as a partisan political prop. The sight of two 10-foot tall Trump/Pence campaign signs on the front lawn of OUR PROPERTY (i.e. the WH) was the stuff of tin-pot dictatorships and/or monarchies...NOT the greatest democracy in the history of humanity, The United States of America. Just disgusting and embarrassing to any decent American.
  • EVERY single cabinet official sitting in the front row tonight was in BLATANT VIOLATION of the Hatch Act, as was Ivanka the moment she began her campaign speech. Just one more in the endless string of desecrations of the Constitution and the rule of law under this criminal presidency.
  • The presence (in camera sight) of the newly erected iron fencing surrounding the WH (to keep real Americans out) was symbolically stunning.
  • The whole damn family is, objectively, a bunch of lying, amoral cretins.
  • Not one mention of the 10+ million small businesses that have failed in the last 7 months.
  • A guest list of 2000+ GOP VIP's, and ZERO masks, ZERO social distancing. Trump told the world that he's the moron who held a Super-Spreader Event...and televised it! And all of them signed waivers to be there. Trump people are such idiots!


Now, to the most obvious/blatant lies:
  • COVID-19 Cures: No, there is NOT an approved "life saving therapy" for COVID-19. And there is ZERO change of a proven vaccine for COVID-19 by the "end of the year". ZERO.
  • COVID-19 Treatment: No, convalescent plasma is NOT yet proven to be an effective treatment for COVID-19. It has shown promise, but has not be proven effective yet.
  • COVID TESTS: The U.S. has the WORST COVID19 Testing system in the developed world, NOT "the best". We have 4% of the world's population, and 25% of the world's deaths due to COVID-19. Trump's performance has been an utter disaster. Worse that Bush's response to Katrina, by orders of magnitude that are practically immeasurable.
  • Abortion: Joe Biden does NOT support abortion up to the moment of birth.
  • COPS Endorsement: The NYPD has NOT endorsed Trump.
  • The Wall: Trump has NOT built 300 miles of border wall. According to TRUMP'S OWN DHS, a GRAND TOTAL of 3 MILES of new wall has been built under Trump's leadership. And Mexico has NOT contributed ONE CENT to the process.
  • Veterans Health Care: Barack Obama signed into law the Veterans' Choice Act, not Trump.
  • Bringing our Troops home: Trump has NOT brought home the troops. There are, as of this very day, MORE troops stationed abroad than when Trump took office.
  • Ending Wars: Trump has NOT ended a single war, as he promised (and as he claimed/lied tonight).
  • Energy: Joe Biden has NOT promised to end energy production in the U.S.
  • The Suburbs: Joe Biden has NOT pledged to "abolish the suburbs".
  • Pre-Existing Conditions: As Trump promises to "protect pre-existing conditions" the FACT is that Trump's own DOJ is arguing in multiple federal court cases RIGHT NOW to end ALL pre-existing conditions protections under the ACA. The seminal case is set to be argued before the USSC exactly 1 week AFTER the election (i.e. November 10). If successful, pre-existing conditions protections will no longer exist for anyone. This is one of the most sinister lies of all, and that's saying a lot, given the mendacity of this the most dishonest president in U.S. history.
  • Gas Prices: are not historically low, and (more importantly) have NOTHING to do with any Trump policy.
  • Black/Brown Unemployment: the FACTS show UE numbers have simply continued the SAME downward trajectory that Trump inherited from Obama....while the median income trend has worsened (even BEFORE the pandemic hit).

I think you need to learn how to disprove such lies, before spreading your own.
 

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I think you need to learn how to disprove such lies, before spreading your own.

That was your job but I don't blame you for not taking it on. Fact checking all Trump's lies is a full time job for teams of reporters.
 

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I think you need to learn how to disprove such lies, before spreading your own.

LOL, I think you need to watch something other than FoxNews, so you won't be so clueless about the facts.
 

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Oh, one more observation:

Ratings for the Trump/RNC Convention have been ABYSMAL!

People hate Trump.

People are embarrassed by Trump.

And, mark my words, most decent Americans (and even some indecent Trump acolytes) are (or will be, when they read about it) highly offended by the way Trump used the People's House (the WH) for a staged political event tonight.
 

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BINGO....

I think Trump and his abysmally obtuse campaign staff made a huge mistake using "The People's House" as a prop for the most Partisan of Partisan political events, part of a Party Convention.
 

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Oh, one more observation:

Ratings for the Trump/RNC Convention have been ABYSMAL!

People hate Trump.

People are embarrassed by Trump.

And, mark my words, most decent Americans (and even some indecent Trump acolytes) are (or will be, when they read about it) highly offended by the way Trump used the People's House (the WH) for a staged political event tonight.

At this point I believe that most people are sick and tired of the left wing accusing Trump of everything under the sun and moon. You guys are preaching to your own choir and not drawing anyone new in. People are sick and tired of the constant negativity.
 

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At this point I believe that most people are sick and tired of the left wing accusing Trump of everything under the sun and moon. You guys are preaching to your own choir and not drawing anyone new in. People are sick and tired of the constant negativity.

Now there is a case of projection if I ever saw one. Geezus you guys are amazing for your consistency anyway.

The Trump Victimization Narrative is about the only enduring legacy of the Trump Term in office.
 

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The highlights:

  • 2nd longest acceptance speech by a presidential candidate in U.S. history. 2nd only to the acceptance speech Trump gave in 2016. (Yes, Trump is a long-winded, lying gas-bag).
  • Just a grotesque desecration, using the White House as a partisan political prop. The sight of two 10-foot tall Trump/Pence campaign signs on the front lawn of OUR PROPERTY (i.e. the WH) was the stuff of tin-pot dictatorships and/or monarchies...NOT the greatest democracy in the history of humanity, The United States of America. Just disgusting and embarrassing to any decent American.
  • EVERY single cabinet official sitting in the front row tonight was in BLATANT VIOLATION of the Hatch Act, as was Ivanka the moment she began her campaign speech. Just one more in the endless string of desecrations of the Constitution and the rule of law under this criminal presidency.
  • The presence (in camera sight) of the newly erected iron fencing surrounding the WH (to keep real Americans out) was symbolically stunning.
  • The whole damn family is, objectively, a bunch of lying, amoral cretins.
  • Not one mention of the 10+ million small businesses that have failed in the last 7 months.
  • A guest list of 2000+ GOP VIP's, and ZERO masks, ZERO social distancing. Trump told the world that he's the moron who held a Super-Spreader Event...and televised it! And all of them signed waivers to be there. Trump people are such idiots!


Now, to the most obvious/blatant lies:
  • COVID-19 Cures: No, there is NOT an approved "life saving therapy" for COVID-19. And there is ZERO change of a proven vaccine for COVID-19 by the "end of the year". ZERO.
  • COVID-19 Treatment: No, convalescent plasma is NOT yet proven to be an effective treatment for COVID-19. It has shown promise, but has not be proven effective yet.
  • COVID TESTS: The U.S. has the WORST COVID19 Testing system in the developed world, NOT "the best". We have 4% of the world's population, and 25% of the world's deaths due to COVID-19. Trump's performance has been an utter disaster. Worse that Bush's response to Katrina, by orders of magnitude that are practically immeasurable.
  • Abortion: Joe Biden does NOT support abortion up to the moment of birth.
  • COPS Endorsement: The NYPD has NOT endorsed Trump.
  • The Wall: Trump has NOT built 300 miles of border wall. According to TRUMP'S OWN DHS, a GRAND TOTAL of 3 MILES of new wall has been built under Trump's leadership. And Mexico has NOT contributed ONE CENT to the process.
  • Veterans Health Care: Barack Obama signed into law the Veterans' Choice Act, not Trump.
  • Bringing our Troops home: Trump has NOT brought home the troops. There are, as of this very day, MORE troops stationed abroad than when Trump took office.
  • Ending Wars: Trump has NOT ended a single war, as he promised (and as he claimed/lied tonight).
  • Energy: Joe Biden has NOT promised to end energy production in the U.S.
  • The Suburbs: Joe Biden has NOT pledged to "abolish the suburbs".
  • Pre-Existing Conditions: As Trump promises to "protect pre-existing conditions" the FACT is that Trump's own DOJ is arguing in multiple federal court cases RIGHT NOW to end ALL pre-existing conditions protections under the ACA. The seminal case is set to be argued before the USSC exactly 1 week AFTER the election (i.e. November 10). If successful, pre-existing conditions protections will no longer exist for anyone. This is one of the most sinister lies of all, and that's saying a lot, given the mendacity of this the most dishonest president in U.S. history.
  • Gas Prices: are not historically low, and (more importantly) have NOTHING to do with any Trump policy.
  • Black/Brown Unemployment: the FACTS show UE numbers have simply continued the SAME downward trajectory that Trump inherited from Obama....while the median income trend has worsened (even BEFORE the pandemic hit).

I didn't even watch it. In fact, I commend anyone who isn't a Trump bootlicker who was able to sit through that bull**** turdfest without puking in the process.
 

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The highlights:

  • 2nd longest acceptance speech by a presidential candidate in U.S. history. 2nd only to the acceptance speech Trump gave in 2016. (Yes, Trump is a long-winded, lying gas-bag).
  • Just a grotesque desecration, using the White House as a partisan political prop. The sight of two 10-foot tall Trump/Pence campaign signs on the front lawn of OUR PROPERTY (i.e. the WH) was the stuff of tin-pot dictatorships and/or monarchies...NOT the greatest democracy in the history of humanity, The United States of America. Just disgusting and embarrassing to any decent American.
  • EVERY single cabinet official sitting in the front row tonight was in BLATANT VIOLATION of the Hatch Act, as was Ivanka the moment she began her campaign speech. Just one more in the endless string of desecrations of the Constitution and the rule of law under this criminal presidency.
  • The presence (in camera sight) of the newly erected iron fencing surrounding the WH (to keep real Americans out) was symbolically stunning.
  • The whole damn family is, objectively, a bunch of lying, amoral cretins.
  • Not one mention of the 10+ million small businesses that have failed in the last 7 months.
  • A guest list of 2000+ GOP VIP's, and ZERO masks, ZERO social distancing. Trump told the world that he's the moron who held a Super-Spreader Event...and televised it! And all of them signed waivers to be there. Trump people are such idiots!


Now, to the most obvious/blatant lies:
  • COVID-19 Cures: No, there is NOT an approved "life saving therapy" for COVID-19. And there is ZERO change of a proven vaccine for COVID-19 by the "end of the year". ZERO.
  • COVID-19 Treatment: No, convalescent plasma is NOT yet proven to be an effective treatment for COVID-19. It has shown promise, but has not be proven effective yet.
  • COVID TESTS: The U.S. has the WORST COVID19 Testing system in the developed world, NOT "the best". We have 4% of the world's population, and 25% of the world's deaths due to COVID-19. Trump's performance has been an utter disaster. Worse that Bush's response to Katrina, by orders of magnitude that are practically immeasurable.
  • Abortion: Joe Biden does NOT support abortion up to the moment of birth.
  • COPS Endorsement: The NYPD has NOT endorsed Trump.
  • The Wall: Trump has NOT built 300 miles of border wall. According to TRUMP'S OWN DHS, a GRAND TOTAL of 3 MILES of new wall has been built under Trump's leadership. And Mexico has NOT contributed ONE CENT to the process.
  • Veterans Health Care: Barack Obama signed into law the Veterans' Choice Act, not Trump.
  • Bringing our Troops home: Trump has NOT brought home the troops. There are, as of this very day, MORE troops stationed abroad than when Trump took office.
  • Ending Wars: Trump has NOT ended a single war, as he promised (and as he claimed/lied tonight).
  • Energy: Joe Biden has NOT promised to end energy production in the U.S.
  • The Suburbs: Joe Biden has NOT pledged to "abolish the suburbs".
  • Pre-Existing Conditions: As Trump promises to "protect pre-existing conditions" the FACT is that Trump's own DOJ is arguing in multiple federal court cases RIGHT NOW to end ALL pre-existing conditions protections under the ACA. The seminal case is set to be argued before the USSC exactly 1 week AFTER the election (i.e. November 10). If successful, pre-existing conditions protections will no longer exist for anyone. This is one of the most sinister lies of all, and that's saying a lot, given the mendacity of this the most dishonest president in U.S. history.
  • Gas Prices: are not historically low, and (more importantly) have NOTHING to do with any Trump policy.
  • Black/Brown Unemployment: the FACTS show UE numbers have simply continued the SAME downward trajectory that Trump inherited from Obama....while the median income trend has worsened (even BEFORE the pandemic hit).

Well it's nice to see an unbiased evaluation. Your assessment is obviously tainted. The single fact that you ignore the best economy in the past 50 years is all I need to know about your objectivity. The virus and the mandatory economic shutdowns are what put the economy in a hole and we are well on the way back. Stock market was at another all time high today and nearly 10 million jobs have already returned dispite the still uncertainty of exactly how the virus is transmitted and as of yet no definite treatment approved for the population. This dispite numerous anti virus's being developed.
 

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The highlights:

  • 2nd longest acceptance speech by a presidential candidate in U.S. history. 2nd only to the acceptance speech Trump gave in 2016. (Yes, Trump is a long-winded, lying gas-bag).
  • Just a grotesque desecration, using the White House as a partisan political prop. The sight of two 10-foot tall Trump/Pence campaign signs on the front lawn of OUR PROPERTY (i.e. the WH) was the stuff of tin-pot dictatorships and/or monarchies...NOT the greatest democracy in the history of humanity, The United States of America. Just disgusting and embarrassing to any decent American.
  • EVERY single cabinet official sitting in the front row tonight was in BLATANT VIOLATION of the Hatch Act, as was Ivanka the moment she began her campaign speech. Just one more in the endless string of desecrations of the Constitution and the rule of law under this criminal presidency.
    [*] The presence (in camera sight) of the newly erected iron fencing surrounding the WH (to keep real Americans out) was symbolically stunning.
    [*]The whole damn family is, objectively, a bunch of lying, amoral cretins.
    [*] Not one mention of the 10+ million small businesses that have failed in the last 7 months.
    [*] A guest list of 2000+ GOP VIP's, and ZERO masks, ZERO social distancing. Trump told the world that he's the moron who held a Super-Spreader Event...and televised it! And all of them signed waivers to be there. Trump people are such idiots!



Now, to the most obvious/blatant lies:
  • COVID-19 Cures: No, there is NOT an approved "life saving therapy" for COVID-19. And there is ZERO change of a proven vaccine for COVID-19 by the "end of the year". ZERO.
  • COVID-19 Treatment: No, convalescent plasma is NOT yet proven to be an effective treatment for COVID-19. It has shown promise, but has not be proven effective yet.
  • COVID TESTS: The U.S. has the WORST COVID19 Testing system in the developed world, NOT "the best". We have 4% of the world's population, and 25% of the world's deaths due to COVID-19. Trump's performance has been an utter disaster. Worse that Bush's response to Katrina, by orders of magnitude that are practically immeasurable.
  • Abortion: Joe Biden does NOT support abortion up to the moment of birth.
  • COPS Endorsement: The NYPD has NOT endorsed Trump.
  • The Wall: Trump has NOT built 300 miles of border wall. According to TRUMP'S OWN DHS, a GRAND TOTAL of 3 MILES of new wall has been built under Trump's leadership. And Mexico has NOT contributed ONE CENT to the process.
  • Veterans Health Care: Barack Obama signed into law the Veterans' Choice Act, not Trump.
  • Bringing our Troops home: Trump has NOT brought home the troops. There are, as of this very day, MORE troops stationed abroad than when Trump took office.
  • Ending Wars: Trump has NOT ended a single war, as he promised (and as he claimed/lied tonight).
  • Energy: Joe Biden has NOT promised to end energy production in the U.S.
  • The Suburbs: Joe Biden has NOT pledged to "abolish the suburbs".
  • Pre-Existing Conditions: As Trump promises to "protect pre-existing conditions" the FACT is that Trump's own DOJ is arguing in multiple federal court cases RIGHT NOW to end ALL pre-existing conditions protections under the ACA. The seminal case is set to be argued before the USSC exactly 1 week AFTER the election (i.e. November 10). If successful, pre-existing conditions protections will no longer exist for anyone. This is one of the most sinister lies of all, and that's saying a lot, given the mendacity of this the most dishonest president in U.S. history.
  • Gas Prices: are not historically low, and (more importantly) have NOTHING to do with any Trump policy.
  • Black/Brown Unemployment: the FACTS show UE numbers have simply continued the SAME downward trajectory that Trump inherited from Obama....while the median income trend has worsened (even BEFORE the pandemic hit).

not so sure:
... It applies to all civilian employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the president and the vice president. There are some other exceptions. Certain executive officials, such as presidential advisers or Cabinet officers, can engage in political activities during official working time as long as federal funds are not used. ...
AP Q&A: Who Cares About the Hatch Act? - The New York Times
 

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At this point I believe that most people are sick and tired of the left wing accusing Trump of everything under the sun and moon. You guys are preaching to your own choir and not drawing anyone new in. People are sick and tired of the constant negativity.

Irony of the day award about preaching to your choir. I think most people are sick and tired of all the accusations being correct.
 

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OP is the best way to read a trump speech, if you have to. It's largely the same, but identifies the claims as lies.
 

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That was your job but I don't blame you for not taking it on. Fact checking all Trump's lies is a full time job for teams of reporters.

No, the OP opened up with their take on what lies were. I've already seen this game play through more than enough from almost everyone else in the anti-trump camp.

If they lack the ability to actually prove that something is a lie and only resort to lying about it themselves. Then I have no reason to trust them on the matter.

We've also seen too many lies from them on this exact same matter. So it's no dice on this concept from me.
 

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LOL, I think you need to watch something other than FoxNews, so you won't be so clueless about the facts.

This coming from the same poster who couldn't even be asked to supply one, maybe two citations for their own OP?

Yeah, I'm fine with letting you cry about FoxNews. It's not like your post has any real bite to take seriously.
 

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The 4th night was a great success. A real celebration of American exceptionalism.

My favorites were hearing from all the people who have benefitted or encouraged by Trump's policies . Alice Johnson, the widow of David Dorn, the woman from Texas who found herself and children homeless and through the initiatives put into place by the Trump administration was able to train for a job while receiving a decent wage. And not to forget the business owner from Wisconsin who thank Trump for helping her to remain in business. But the one the left will never ever talk about and the other cable stations did not carry were the Mueller's, parents of the humanitarian worker who was abducted by ISIS and murdered . The Trump administration took out the leader of ISIS. The task force in charge of taking out Baghdadi titled their mission the birthday of Kayla. The Mueller's shared how they pleaded with the Obama/Biden administration to help rescue their daughter and it went nowhere. They feel today if Trump would have been president at that time their daughter may still be alive.

You can watch their "testimony" at the link below. It was powerful but all the everyday people that highlighted how Trump's agenda personally helped them.

Parents of slain humanitarian worker Kayla Mueller rip Obama administration, back Trump in RNC remarks | Fox News



I think Trump gave a very good speech for making the case for 4 more years and laying out his agenda. That fireworks display was exceptional and the opera tenor (who supports Trump} was a real treat.
 

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Well it's nice to see an unbiased evaluation. Your assessment is obviously tainted. The single fact that you ignore the best economy in the past 50 years is all I need to know about your objectivity. The virus and the mandatory economic shutdowns are what put the economy in a hole and we are well on the way back. Stock market was at another all time high today and nearly 10 million jobs have already returned dispite the still uncertainty of exactly how the virus is transmitted and as of yet no definite treatment approved for the population. This dispite numerous anti virus's being developed.

The Obama expansion is over. Trump owns this wreckage.
 

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The 4th night was a great success. A real celebration of American exceptionalism.

My favorites were hearing from all the people who have benefitted or encouraged by Trump's policies . Alice Johnson, the widow of David Dorn, the woman from Texas who found herself and children homeless and through the initiatives put into place by the Trump administration was able to train for a job while receiving a decent wage. And not to forget the business owner from Wisconsin who thank Trump for helping her to remain in business. But the one the left will never ever talk about and the other cable stations did not carry were the Mueller's, parents of the humanitarian worker who was abducted by ISIS and murdered . The Trump administration took out the leader of ISIS. The task force in charge of taking out Baghdadi titled their mission the birthday of Kayla. The Mueller's shared how they pleaded with the Obama/Biden administration to help rescue their daughter and it went nowhere. They feel today if Trump would have been president at that time their daughter may still be alive.

You can watch their "testimony" at the link below. It was powerful but all the everyday people that highlighted how Trump's agenda personally helped them.

Parents of slain humanitarian worker Kayla Mueller rip Obama administration, back Trump in RNC remarks | Fox News



I think Trump gave a very good speech for making the case for 4 more years and laying out his agenda. That fireworks display was exceptional and the opera tenor (who supports Trump} was a real treat.

What about the people who were hurt by his policies?
 

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At this point I believe that most people are sick and tired of the left wing accusing Trump of everything under the sun and moon. You guys are preaching to your own choir and not drawing anyone new in. People are sick and tired of the constant negativity.

:lamo...only if by "most people", you mean "most people like me". Clearly, "most people" are disgusted by Trump. He's the most unpopular president in the history of this country, for Pete's sake. Not once has he reached 50% in a major, credible poll. 80% of the public believes we are on the "wrong track" under his leadership.

And let's be clear, every single word of my OP was accurate. You're welcome to fact-check it, but I doubt you will.

And you people wonder why most people consider Trumpism to be a cult?
 

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Well it's nice to see an unbiased evaluation. Your assessment is obviously tainted.

There's NOTHING "biased" about FACTS. They are what they are. I simply FACT-CHECKED the Trump address. And I make no claim of being "unbiased". The list contains no opinions, only an objective FACT-CHECK of Trump's remarks. So your comment, here, is just a red herring.

What matters is that the FACTS I've posted are accurate. The list of lies I posted, from Trump's address, are not arguable. Every single one of them corrects a LIE told by Trump during the address. Feel free to challenge them, if you wish. You'll see that I'm right.


The single fact that you ignore the best economy in the past 50 years is all I need to know about your objectivity.
This is either dumb, or dishonest. Either way, it's only a "fact" in the minds of deluded FoxNews types.

The FACT is that we did NOT have the best economy in 50 years. Not even remotely close to it. That's an empty talking point that you've adopted from your hero, Trump. But no economist agreed with it. Trump inherited a strong economy from Obama, and literally rode the wave. Unemployment, for example, simply continued the SAME trajectory of improvement that had been in place or the last 6 years of the Obama administration. Trump literally had no impact on it.

The virus and the mandatory economic shutdowns are what put the economy in a hole and we are well on the way back.
Oh, you mean the virus that Trump (and all of his minions, like you) were calling a "hoax" from late January until about May? The virus that was "just like a flu", according to you people? The virus that was going to "disappear in the summer"? That virus? Wow...the irony of statements like these, from Trump acolytes, is just breathtaking. :roll:

No, it was Trump's denial and incompetent response are what put the economy in a hole, from which it has yet to recover. There is a reason why the U.S. is suffering the worst effects of the COVID-19 pandemic, anywhere in the world. The virus can be contained. Look at S. Korea, Japan, France, Italy (yes, even Italy), Thailand, New Zealand, etc. etc. But it takes presidential leadership. We don't have that.

Stock market was at another all time high today
The stock market is NOT the economy. Geez...

and nearly 10 million jobs have already returned
Only another 20 million to go, huh? No other country even comes close to the economic downturn we've suffered in the U.S. There is a reason for that. At what point do you people accept some responsibility?
 

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Legal Experts, everywhere, are pretty clear about this one:

Former government ethics chief slams Trump for RNC White House speech - Business Insider

Walter Shaub, the director of the United States Office of Government Ethics under Trump:

"This abomination may be the most visible misuse of official position for private gain in America's history," he wrote on Twitter. "It is an abuse of the power entrusted to this man, the breach of a sacred trust. It is the civic equivalent of a mortal sin—maybe a religious one too. And it is a harbinger."


Richard Painter, White House Chief Ethics lawyer for Bush '41:

"Almost the entire RNC convention was a Hatch Act violation."
 

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No, the OP opened up with their take on what lies were.

Why lie so blatantly, Obo?

My "take" is not involved. I posted FACTS. Facts that you know you can't rebut. If you think I've posted one thing that is inaccurate, please feel free to point it out.

You won't. Because you're not stupid. You may prefer to "exaggerate" the truth a bit (see above)...but you're not stupid.


I've already seen this game play through more than enough from almost everyone else in the anti-trump camp.
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So have we. Here's how it goes. Trump lies...we fact-check Trump's lies...Trump's minions complain about how Trump is being "picked on", etc....but Trump's minions NEVER address (much less rebut) the FACTS that are laid out against Trump.

Face it, if you could rebut the fact-checks in the OP, you'd do it. You won't, because you can't. People see this.

And that's all that matters.


If they lack the ability to actually prove that something is a lie and only resort to lying about it themselves. Then I have no reason to trust them on the matter.
Point out a lie, or admit you're the liar in this scenario. Deal?

We've also seen too many lies from them on this exact same matter. So it's no dice on this concept from me.
:lamo
I'm pretty sure you can't recall many (or ANY) "lies" told about Trump by his detractors. So this is probably just a lie (or a delusion) on your part, as well.


This coming from the same poster who couldn't even be asked to supply one, maybe two citations for their own OP?
No one asked for citations. And I composed my OP before any fact-checking site was available. But there are plenty now. Here are a few. Take note that there were MANY more lies in Trump's speech than the ones I listed. But all of mine are confirmed, as well.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/28/fact-checking-president-trumps-acceptance-speech-2020-rnc/
Trump 2020 RNC Speech: Full Transcript And Fact Check : NPR
RNC fact check: Trump speech filled with falsehoods
Fact-checking Donald Trump’s RNC speech

So now that we've put to rest the validity of my OP, I'm sure you're prepared to acknowledge it's accuracy, right? :roll:

I doubt it. But let's see.
 

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Why lie so blatantly, Obo?

My "take" is not involved. I posted FACTS. Facts that you know you can't rebut. If you think I've posted one thing that is inaccurate, please feel free to point it out.

You won't. Because you're not stupid. You may prefer to "exaggerate" the truth a bit (see above)...but you're not stupid.



:lamo
So have we. Here's how it goes. Trump lies...we fact-check Trump's lies...Trump's minions complain about how Trump is being "picked on", etc....but Trump's minions NEVER address (much less rebut) the FACTS that are laid out against Trump.

Face it, if you could rebut the fact-checks in the OP, you'd do it. You won't, because you can't. People see this.

And that's all that matters.



Point out a lie, or admit you're the liar in this scenario. Deal?


:lamo
I'm pretty sure you can't recall many (or ANY) "lies" told about Trump by his detractors. So this is probably just a lie (or a delusion) on your part, as well.



No one asked for citations. And I composed my OP before any fact-checking site was available. But there are plenty now. Here are a few. Take note that there were MANY more lies in Trump's speech than the ones I listed. But all of mine are confirmed, as well.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/08/28/fact-checking-president-trumps-acceptance-speech-2020-rnc/
Trump 2020 RNC Speech: Full Transcript And Fact Check : NPR
RNC fact check: Trump speech filled with falsehoods
Fact-checking Donald Trump’s RNC speech

So now that we've put to rest the validity of my OP, I'm sure you're prepared to acknowledge it's accuracy, right? :roll:

I doubt it. But let's see.

Like before, I see opinions and misinformation.

Do you have anyone more legitimate who wasn't doing this out of bias?
 
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