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Trump will win... watch him win

Robertinfremont said:
I put no stock at all on the democrats posting here. The people will make Trump win.
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The people here aren’t your problem. Is the 10’s of millions of Americans who have had enough.
 
joluoto said:
My prediction if Trump lose:

He will say it's because of voter fraud and he really won.
He will tweet all night
He will be Faux News talking about how the election was stolen every day
He will not work with Biden's team at all
The day before Biden's inauguration he will flee to Mar-a-lago like a thief in the night
He will say he was removed by the CIA, even though he wasn't.
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Seems like a reasonable position. I would not doubt if some serious scheming and corruption plays out if he gets nervous. He will start calling governors and Hannity. I think he will tweet, and then probably threaten lawsuits and recounts
 
Mr Person said:
Biden does not want to assemble huge crowds because he is not a compulsively lying sociopath who is happy to get people killed if he thinks it helps his re-election effort. That's Trump you're thinking of.

Trumpism: the evil is the point
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Give me an example of this 'evil' you pretend to see.
 
He probably won the pop vote also but for voter fraud
joluoto said:
Trump MIGHT win the electoral college again, but no way will he win the popular vote. So no, if Trump wins it's not because of the people.
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The last thing Republicans in 2020 need to do is repeat the arrogant certainty to a complete and epic failure the Democrats did in 2016.

Our nation is experiencing a real uptick in polarization and division worthy of a note in the history books, and this typically puts stress on where the Independent voters put their support.

By party affiliation standards this is the very voting block in key states that candidates on a national level compete for, and by the numbers need to win an election even if both sides are so entrenched in their political ideology that they are also to arrogant to admit it.
 
redbeer said:
This sounds exactly what the Obama/Biden admn did with their transfer, while having our intelligence agencies investigating Trump and his team.....
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Obama/Biden fled to Mar-a-Lago in the dead of night??????? o_O
 
Aunt Antifa said:
The people here aren’t your problem. Is the 10’s of millions of Americans who have had enough.
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Yeh they e had enough of good government, now want communism

Or virtual communism

So only a handful of ppl will be wealthy and control all the money

Suckers
 
Robertinfremont said:
Voters matter and Trump has them.
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Will he be able to win with only 40% of the country? The best pollsters out there say no. And if the GOP goes ahead with this judge, it will be even worse for down ballot campaigns. So go ahead with the judge, and it'll take the GOP an entire generation to come back, if ever.
 
Robertinfremont said:
I put no stock at all on the democrats posting here. The people will make Trump win.
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Well, Duterte won in the Philippines. Modi in India. Putin in Russia. There are a lot of stupid people in the world. It's likely that stupid people are the majority.
 
Robertinfremont said:
I put no stock at all on the democrats posting here. The people will make Trump win.
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I'm not convinced Biden will win, but it's not a sure win for Trump either. And if he does win again, it will be like last time. An EC win, but not a Popular win. Without a popular win it cannot be said that "the people" made Trump win, just the system.
 
Robertinfremont said:
I put no stock at all on the democrats posting here. The people will make Trump win.
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I'll gladly listen to anyone who wants to explain their thought process as to why they think Biden will win or why they think Trump will win. I can agree, disagree etc. I might learn to think about a detail of the election or the population that I hadn't considered etc.

But just about everybody I've ever heard who has expressed the sentiment that "Candidate X will definitely win" is usually just appealing from emotion and hasn't really even attempted to sit down and think through the information we have or the actual chances of the event happening. These types of forecasts that are expressed as an absolute certitude can almost always be dismissed out of hand. There is no reasoning behind them. There is no real thought behind them. So it's not even interesting to discuss at any length really.
 
Finch said:
Nope...Trump lost the popular vote, no evidence of fraud.
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i think there was fraud

in any case, it hardly matters. Our system was set up long ago and it is a great system... keeps big cities from electing our president when most people, i'm guessing, do not live in cities

but even if most did, that doesn't mean

mob rule is OK
 
"Bernie Sanders had more people at his events than Trump....Bernie didn't win his primary."

Folks went to Bernie's "rallies" to see what stupid crap he was going to say. They had no intention for putting a Socialist in the White House.
 
2distracted said:
i think there was fraud

in any case, it hardly matters. Our system was set up long ago and it is a great system... keeps big cities from electing our president when most people, i'm guessing, do not live in cities

but even if most did, that doesn't mean

mob rule is OK
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Doesn't matter what you think, no evidence of fraud....Your opinion on the electoral college is noted...
 
smallvoice said:
"Bernie Sanders had more people at his events than Trump....Bernie didn't win his primary."

Folks went to Bernie's "rallies" to see what stupid crap he was going to say. They had no intention for putting a Socialist in the White House.
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Lol, your ignorant statement is dismissed.
 
Much like he did in 2016, the Russian president supports Trump’s re-election, and he is doing so personally.

The Times reports, "President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia is most likely continuing to approve and direct interference operations aimed at raising President Trump’s re-election chances, a recent C.I.A. analysis concluded, a signal that intelligence agencies continue to back their assessment of Russian activities despite the president’s attacks.

"The assessment was disseminated in support of sanctions imposed this month on Andriy Derkach, a pro-Russian Ukrainian lawmaker who has spread information critical of Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. It is consistent with intelligence officials’ warning to lawmakers in January that Russia was interfering on Mr. Trump’s behalf, a briefing that outraged Republicans and eventually helped oust Joseph Maguire from his post as acting director of national intelligence."

The Times was being kind. Put a different way, Trump fired him."

Trump doesn't like bad news, particularly if it involves Russia.

Or Putin.

Despite repeated warnings from intelligence officials and his own FBI director that Russia is carrying out a blatant attack on American democracy, Trump summed up his views at a rally yesterday in very simple terms, "I like Putin, he likes me."

Trump wasn't through with his adulation of the Russian dictator. "I like Putin. He likes me. We get along. Wouldn't you say it's smart to get along? OK? It's smart," he told supporters in Ohio.

Again, this might be a question of intelligence.

Considering the fact that Putin is no friend of the United States, considering the fact that Putin will do whatever he can to weaken our country, considering the fact that is why Putin approved of Trump in the first place, isn't that akin to President Roosevelt saying, "I like Adolf Hitler."
 
Sandy Shanks said:
Considering the fact that Putin is no friend of the United States, considering the fact that Putin will do whatever he can to weaken our country, considering the fact that is why Putin approved of Trump in the first place, isn't that akin to President Roosevelt saying, "I like Adolf Hitler."
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Trump's followers will have nothing to say.

They don't want to know.

These are the people who chose our President the last time.
 
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joluoto said:
Trump MIGHT win the electoral college again, but no way will he win the popular vote. So no, if Trump wins it's not because of the people.
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what you mean is, if Trump wins , it won't be solely because of the California and New York people.
 
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