Trump voters now blame him for the government shutdown

[Common Sense 1]

We already know this in the case of the Trump lovers. Look how they attack me because I was too smart to support Trump, just because I was a Republican. Leave the cult and you're persona non grata.

No one cares how you voted. But they will respond to your strange posts. :lamo

:rwbdonkey

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Why are liberals and moderates concerned with what these people think anymore?

These people fell for Trump and then stood by him through his lies, stood by him through his corruption, stood by through his abusive rhetoric, stood by him through Russia gate and Helsinki, stood by him through his trade war, and on and on its gone.

They've stood by him through all his dysfunction, chaos, incompetence, and debauchery, so I'm not one to care too much at this point what they think anymore. If they vote to undo their damage that's great, but it doesn't change my view of them as being (frankly) weak minded and reckless.

I think the trump voters who are wavering are the ones who have been insulted from any potential consequences from trump’s transgressions and they have a sense community bonding over “owning liberals”.

Now however, the situation is not all fun and games, and trump voters are suffering the consequences of the shutdown close to home.

Imperial Rome during the last years of its existence kept the populace satisfied with bread and circuses. If the food ran out or the circuses no longer entertained the masses, the Roman population would’ve found reason and excuses to rebel.

I think trump voters are starting to see that “owning the libs” can’t put food on the table or deal with long lines at airports.

 

[bongsaway]

Recent polling numbers tend to support the notion that Trump has lost most independents, and also the uneducated white males of his base are falling away.

Two years of Trump is a lifetime politically. But Trump is the gift that keeps on giving. As the election window shrinks and Mueller closes in, Trumps behavior can only grow more antagonistic.

As time passes, more and more Americans detect that Trump cares for himself far more than he cares for this country. This will amplify in the months to come.

Months to come? I'm looking forward to the seventh of next month when mikey goes in front of congress to testify. We should know how much trouble trump thinks he's in by the tone of his tweets or his silence on the subject.

 

[Fletch]

We already know this in the case of the Trump lovers. Look how they attack me because I was too smart to support Trump, just because I was a Republican. Leave the cult and you're persona non grata.

You think way too highly of yourself. You arent attacked because you dislike Trump and you certainly arent attacked because you are smart. (Youre not) You are attacked because you say the same stupid **** every other liberal here says.

 

[tres borrachos]

No one cares how you voted. But they will respond to your strange posts. :lamo

:rwbdonkey

I don't want to know about your adoration of Trump. I've seen evidence of it on here for the last 2 years. Has he sent you that pair of dirty underpants you're hoping to carry around in your mouth all day yet?

 

[tres borrachos]

You think way too highly of yourself. You arent attacked because you dislike Trump and you certainly arent attacked because you are smart. (Youre not) You are attacked because you say the same stupid **** every other liberal here says.

I love it when I make you Trump lovers cry.

I'm smart. I didn't vote for Trump. That makes me smart.

 

[bongsaway]

Why are liberals and moderates concerned with what these people think anymore?

These people fell for Trump and then stood by him through his lies, stood by him through his corruption, stood by through his abusive rhetoric, stood by him through Russia gate and Helsinki, stood by him through his trade war, and on and on its gone.

They've stood by him through all his dysfunction, chaos, incompetence, and debauchery, so I'm not one to care too much at this point what they think anymore. If they vote to undo their damage that's great, but it doesn't change my view of them as being (frankly) weak minded and reckless.

Ok, ok, you're overdoing it about the good points of the GOP, enough, we wouldn't want them to get swell-headed.

 

[uptower]

I hope it's true, but I have big doubts about how many working class voters are moving away. I have some anecdotal evidence supporting the idea based on a slow down in far right posts from my dad and uncles on Facebook but that's about it.

The slowdown is due to having less to crow about. Whenever Trump has a bad news day his supporters stop posting. They might step into an opposing blog or something to post some weak defence but otherwise they stay quiet till the next perceived 'win' or other story popular with right wing ranters. I believe if an election were held tomorrow Trump's base - that solid 30% would stand by him.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Hasn’t dampened the supporters here, as far as I can tell......

I'm fairly new here. I've been very curious if Trump supporters simply stopped posting here over the last two years. That will give me a feel for how his support is trending.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Wake me if the bottom falls out of Trumps approval rating...so far that has not happened.

How does the bottom fall out of the bottom? Trump has been upside down in approval ratings since before he was even elected.

 

[Mr Person]

Uh--------------------no we dont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We blame the pig headed egotistical old bag Hillary. She refuses to compromise.

You.....




whaa...?






HILLARY IS NOT IN OFFICE. HILLARY CANNOT END THE SHUTDOWN.

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Embiggened, capslocked, and redded for ease of understanding.

 

[Hatuey]

Uh--------------------no we dont!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We blame the pig headed egotistical old bag Hillary. She refuses to compromise.

... okay. Fine, I'll do it.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

 

[Xelor]

From the rubric (all indented passaged are):

Two years ago, Jeff Daudert was fed up with politics. He wanted to shake up the status quo. He didn’t mind sending a message to the establishment — and, frankly, he liked the idea of a disruptive president.

But the 49-year-old retired Navy reservist has had some second thoughts.

“What the [expletive] were we thinking?” he asked the other night inside a Walmart here, in an area of blue-collar suburban Detroit that helped deliver Trump the presidency.​

WTF were you thinking, indeed! Day in and day out, effing ad nauseum, people were told -- via anecdote and analysis from the left and from the right; by people rich, poor and in between -- what kind of man Trump is and what kind of SNAFU his presidency would be.

Jeremiah Wilburn, a 45-year-old operating engineer, ... reflected, "I was doing fine with him up until this government shutdown," he said. "It’s ridiculous. You’re not getting the wall built for $5 billion. And Mexico is not paying for it, we all know that, too. Meanwhile, it’s starting to turn people like me away."

He worries about the impact the shutdown will have on the economy. He’s concerned about the impact on his brother, who works for the TSA in Florida.

To him, the shutdown standoff has also poked holes in Trump’s ability to say that he cares for the working class, given that 800,000 federal employees and additional contractors going without a paycheck.​

Oh, now he realizes Mexico's not paying for it. Did he know that when "he" shouted, "Mexico?" Why didn't he and others like him demand that "their candidate" present a proposal that bore some sort of resemblance to reality? If Wilburn and others like him had done so when Trump was "primarying," it wouldn't have taken them two effing years to glean "the emperor has no clothes." Maybe it wouldn't have taken two years to see that then, as now, there's no "there" there, that he and his rhetoric were, as they remain, all "smoke and mirrors."

Would Jeremiah's approbation have waned had his brother not been affected? I wonder if his sibling has solicited him for financial assistance.


Did Trumpkins like Wilburn, Daudert and others bother saying to themselves, "Maybe I should avail myself of the Internet to see how much truth there is to what they're saying?" Hell, no! They just listened to Bill, Tucker, Sean, Ann, Rush and the rest of the rowdy right, every one of whom had no goal beyond attracting the greatest-possible quantity of listeners/viewers -- Is any of them an actual journalist (Tucker ages ago was, but those days have long since been gone)? -- not to disseminate the truth and advance any of assiduous Republicans in the GOP primaries.

What they did was buy little red hats; holler insipid refrains; content themselves with his likely SCOTUS appointees, as though any other GOP candidate wouldn't have appointed like-minded jurists; and bemuse themselves with Trump's alleged political novelty while dismissing his blatant naivete. What they did was treat a presidential election with the same seriousness as one might when voting for a winner of The Voice.

What they did was grouse "the elite this," "the establishment that," and "rich people the other," even as myriad members of "the elite et al" warned them about Trump and the depths of his desultoriness and egoistic depravity. They thought mainstream elites were against them, yet nothing was farther from the truth. The establishment, the elites were admonishing against Trump because they knew that they'd do just fine Trump or no Trump, but that "regular" Americans would not. Elites didn't disparage and decry Trump and Trumpkins because elites aimed to preserve their status thus; it was because "everyone else" isn't, because elites knew, sooner or later, Trump would screw people who aren't among the elite.

It doesn't take a genius to see that's what Trump's done. Ask a coal miner if his industry has come back. Watch the middle class' tax cut become a tax increase before the bill expires. Ask government workers. Those folks aren't and won't be better off. But one-percenters, well, one-percenters already are better off, many of them to the tune more than the median US salary.

But everytime one tried to tell them and show them Trump's twaddle, they always had a benightedly sardonic answer....and here we are. Mssrs. Daudert and Wilburn are among the folks whom I'd see royally screwed up one side and down the other as a result of Trump's ascension to the presidency. Is that vengeful on my part? "Damn skippy," it is! People like them "made their bed" and invited Trump into it. Now they need lie there and get ****ed, because choices have consequences. If suffering the consequences will make Daudert and his ilk pay attention next time, then that, not anyone's forgiveness.

 

[Hawkeye10]

How does the bottom fall out of the bottom? Trump has been upside down in approval ratings since before he was even elected.

Trump has extremely high approval numbers for the leader of a rebellion....stunningly high, as well as stunningly solid.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Trump has extremely high approval numbers for the leader of a rebellion....stunningly high, as well as stunningly solid.

Hate to break it to you, but Trump’s “rebellion” is in the minority, and shrinking.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Hate to break it to you, but Trump’s “rebellion” is in the minority, and shrinking.

It is not Trumps rebellion, he is simply the current leader, and it will not go away once he is deposed I am pretty sure. In fact the way Trump has been abused and with the way that the elite of this country continue to refuse to listen and continue to refuse to reform and continue to refuse to tell the truth and continue to refuse to care about justice and continue to refuse to care about the decline of America too often as the direct result of both their bad work and as well their lack of morality ...... as they continue to stuff their thumbs in their ears....I can pretty much guarantee the growth of the Rebellion.

Whether I am correct or not the big crash-up of America is coming.. we will get better after that....eventually....Pain always works as a teacher...eventually.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

It is not Trumps rebellion, he is simply the current leader, and it will not go away once he is deposed I am pretty sure. In fact the way Trump has been abused and with the way that the elite of this country continue to refuse to listen and continue to refuse to reform and continue to refuse to tell the truth and continue to refuse to care about justice and continue to refuse to care about the decline of America too often as the direct result of both their bad work and as well their lack of morality ...... as they continue to stuff their thumbs in their ears....I can pretty much guarantee the growth of the Rebellion.

Whether I am correct or not the big crash-up of America is coming.. we will get better after that....eventually....Pain always works as a teacher...eventually.

Uh huh :roll:

 

[Grokmaster]

Trump voters now blame him for the government shutdown

No, Mexico isn't cutting a check for your wall. Get it from your taxpayers.



The longer Trumps government shutdown goes on, the deeper the wooden stake penetrates Trumps reelection plans for 2020. The Republican Party will also pay a hefty price in the next election cycle.

Please post the poll out from behind a paywall..so we can add up its SAMPLING DEMOGRAPHIC, which I wager is FAR FROM "Trump Voters".


Worst PHOTO-SHOPPED pic f the year...so far....

 

[HumblePi]

Months to come? I'm looking forward to the seventh of next month when mikey goes in front of congress to testify. We should know how much trouble trump thinks he's in by the tone of his tweets or his silence on the subject.

He's refusing to testify on the 7th

 

[Unitedwestand13]

He's refusing to testify on the 7th

Subpoenas away then.

 

[uptower]

I'm fairly new here. I've been very curious if Trump supporters simply stopped posting here over the last two years. That will give me a feel for how his support is trending.

People need to be somewhat passionate about issues to carry on a conversation online day after day. While I've seen a handful of people say they've turned on Trump just in the couple of months I've been here, we have to accept that there will be a lot of strong supporters who will be the last to turn, if at all. That's understandable. But in the wider population, the numbers are going down: swing voters and the habitual republicans are turning away. His base will cling on and I'd be surprised (and gleeful) to see him go below 30%. But those 30% will be out in force defending him on forums like this because they do care in their way.

 

[bongsaway]

People need to be somewhat passionate about issues to carry on a conversation online day after day. While I've seen a handful of people say they've turned on Trump just in the couple of months I've been here, we have to accept that there will be a lot of strong supporters who will be the last to turn, if at all. That's understandable. But in the wider population, the numbers are going down: swing voters and the habitual republicans are turning away. His base will cling on and I'd be surprised (and gleeful) to see him go below 30%. But those 30% will be out in force defending him on forums like this because they do care in their way.

I can see your point, they do care in their way. However, their caring is only about themselves and the heck with anybody else and that's why they are losing support.

 

[uptower]

I can see your point, they do care in their way. However, their caring is only about themselves and the heck with anybody else and that's why they are losing support.

Well I'll be kind but that 30% truly believe trump can make America great again, truly despise his opposition and believe that the nation is under threats to which he has the solution and that whatever he does, even if it hurts them in the short term, is for the greater good. A good deal are also really sincere about 'owning the libs' and for that reason will fight on in Trump's corner.

 

[HumblePi]

Trump has extremely high approval numbers for the leader of a rebellion....stunningly high, as well as stunningly solid.

Ever since the rise of conservative radio like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Fox news, and conservative online media like the Drudge Report, The Federalist, National Review, Breitbart and conservative 'spokespeople' (e.g. Dinesh D'Souza, Ann Coulter) The American public has been bombarded with constant messages: "It's us versus them. Liberals are unpatriotic, Obama is un-American, Democrats want to take away your freedoms, destroy America, and turn it into a Socialist country. The government is your enemy. Compromise is bad, obstructionism is winning. The politics of dehumanizing the opposition works. Don't trust any media other than us. Don't trust facts; trust our "alternative facts" and conspiracy theories."

This has completely been a Conservative-led strategy, and it has been going on for 20+ years. It has only been in recent years that Liberals have begun showing similar tendencies; but that's only in reaction to the constant divisive hatred emanating from the Right. In fact, poll numbers (of more informative questions beyond mere "approval") show that even now Liberals are more accepting of Conservatives than vice versa. This is the true backstory behind our current tribalism.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Psssh. Of course Trump will force Mexico to do it. Just look at his Authority Posture.


(I swear, every time he thinks he's projecting seriousness and power, he instead looks like a five year old who is pissed off that teacher said to put down the toys and have nappy nap time.)

He's thinking about those two scoops he's going to get for dessert.