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Trump voters: is America great again, yet?

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A quarter of Trump's term has gone by so far, but this is not specifically about Trump as a President, but about America - why it wasn't great and why it is/isn't now. Please be specific.
 

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A quarter of Trump's term has gone by so far, but this is not specifically about Trump as a President, but about America - why it wasn't great and why it is/isn't now. Please be specific.


economy

Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and repealing the Obamacare mandate.
Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.
Killing job-stifling regulations

Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.
Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.
Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the threat of environmental regulations.
Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals.
Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly targeted the coal industry.
Fair trade

Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S.
Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants.
Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.
Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.
Boosting U.S. energy dominance

The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.
Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.
Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL Pipeline snubbed by Obama.
Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean Power Plan.
EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.
Protecting the U.S. homeland

Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members.
Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.
Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.
Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.
Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.
Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.
Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.
Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.
Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars.
Added some 100 new immigration judges.


Year One List: 81 major Trump achievements, 11 Obama legacy items repealed





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#ButtHillary!

#emails n leftists n soros, oh my!

Even though Trump was elected, my portfolio has continued to grow bigly! (been doing that since a little mishap back in '08, but hey.)
 

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economy

Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and repealing the Obamacare mandate.
Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.
Killing job-stifling regulations

Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.
Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.
Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the threat of environmental regulations.
Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals.
Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly targeted the coal industry.
Fair trade

Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S.
Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants.
Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.
Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.
Boosting U.S. energy dominance

The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.
Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.
Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL Pipeline snubbed by Obama.
Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean Power Plan.
EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.
Protecting the U.S. homeland

Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members.
Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.
Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.
Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.
Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.
Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.
Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.
Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.
Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars.
Added some 100 new immigration judges.


Year One List: 81 major Trump achievements, 11 Obama legacy items repealed





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Really pretty sad list.

"Started the end of DACA.":lamo

BTW, You really should do your own work.
 

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Really pretty sad list.

"Started the end of DACA.":lamo

BTW, You really should do your own work.

Yet his framework for immigration would give Dreamers a "path to citizenship." interesting "end."

I think they just make up their own wet dream and assume that must be what Trump is doing. The next list of his accomplishments will probably include "personally strangled Hillary Clinton and ordered all liberals to reeducation camps."
 

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A quarter of Trump's term has gone by so far, but this is not specifically about Trump as a President, but about America - why it wasn't great and why it is/isn't now. Please be specific.

America is getting worse..... we cant do conversation with people who dont agree with us anymore, we cant work together any more, we tend to lack honesty and other morals, we tend to be stupid now, we tend to be lazy now, we rarely care about quality anymore it's all cheap cheap cheap cheap.....and we just dont care about how badly we suck.....so we get worse.
 
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economy

Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and repealing the Obamacare mandate.
Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.
Killing job-stifling regulations

Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.
Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.
Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the threat of environmental regulations.
Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals.
Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly targeted the coal industry.
Fair trade

Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S.
Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants.
Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.
Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.
Boosting U.S. energy dominance

The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.
Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.
Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL Pipeline snubbed by Obama.
Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean Power Plan.
EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.
Protecting the U.S. homeland
So America, wasn't great because of the economy? So if unemployment rises, for example, America won't be a great country anymore?
Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members.
Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.
Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.
Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.
Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.
Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.
Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.
Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.
Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars.
Added some 100 new immigration judges.
So illegal immigrants make America an un-great country? How many does it take?


Year One List: 81 major Trump achievements, 11 Obama legacy items repealed
Once again, this isn't about Trump specifically. This is about America and what makes it great.
 

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Schumer's shutdown reveals: Democrats will destroy America just to spite Trump

Quote = "Democrats are committed to stopping Trump and his "America first" agenda, whatever the cost to the American people. Like the apocryphal commander in the Vietnam War, they will destroy the village to save it."


https://www.google.com/amp/thehill....ocrats-will-destroy-america-just-to-spite?amp





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Or as I long ago put it the Elite (currently I am using the term FAILED INTELLIGENTSIA! ) are fully committed to the cause of burning America down to burn Trump out.
 

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Yet his framework for immigration would give Dreamers a "path to citizenship." interesting "end."

I think they just make up their own wet dream and assume that must be what Trump is doing. The next list of his accomplishments will probably include "personally strangled Hillary Clinton and ordered all liberals to reeducation camps."

That's why I was mocking that item. There's a lot of grasping at straws in that list, but that one is particularly funny given the situation. Trumpers?:2funny:
 

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America is getting worse..... we cant do conversation with people who dont agree with us anymore, we cant work together any more, we tend to lack honesty and other morals, we tend to be stupid now, we tend to be lazy now, we rarely care about quality anymore it's all cheap cheap cheap cheap.....and we just dont care about how badly we suck.....so we get worse.
So you voted for Trump, but you actually think America is getting worse?

It seems odd to bemoan a lack of civility and then elect a person who directly and childishly insults his opponents or bemoan a lack of honesty and support a President that lies, overstates, exaggerates, and hyperbolizes at the drop of a hat.
 

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So you voted for Trump, but you actually think America is getting worse?

It seems odd to bemoan a lack of civility and then elect a person who directly and childishly insults his opponents or bemoan a lack of honesty and support a President that lies, overstates, exaggerates, and hyperbolizes at the drop of a hat.

America is getting worse, in fact the collapse of America has picked up speed, powered by the reaction to the people sending Trump to Washington much more than any deficiencies in Trump... of which he has many as we all know.
 

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A quarter of Trump's term has gone by so far, but this is not specifically about Trump as a President, but about America - why it wasn't great and why it is/isn't now. Please be specific.

Well it looks like govt is no longer trying to kill our corporations, and make them state run enterprises that's a good thing isn't it ?
 

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My yearly gains last year on my investments were about 15%. My gains so far this month are at about 10%.
 

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America is getting worse..... we cant do conversation with people who dont agree with us anymore, we cant work together any more, we tend to lack honesty and other morals, we tend to be stupid now, we tend to be lazy now, we rarely care about quality anymore it's all cheap cheap cheap cheap.....and we just dont care about how badly we suck.....so we get worse.

Everything you listed was caused by Leftists.
 

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A quarter of Trump's term has gone by so far, but this is not specifically about Trump as a President, but about America - why it wasn't great and why it is/isn't now. Please be specific.

Correction 1/8th of the Trump presidency has gone by so far. Over the last year by every objective measure America has improved a lot.

The only dark spot is the Left, miserable and crazed over watching their ideology being destroyed, is doing everything they can to dampen the mood.
 

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To conservatives, America wasn't great when Obama was in office.
 

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Well it looks like govt is no longer trying to kill our corporations, and make them state run enterprises that's a good thing isn't it ?
feel free to answer the question that the thread has been started around... is America great now, why or why not?
 

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Correction 1/8th of the Trump presidency has gone by so far.
I said term, not presidency. Feel free to project a win for Trump in 2020. That's not what this thread is about.

Over the last year by every objective measure America has improved a lot.

The only dark spot is the Left, miserable and crazed over watching their ideology being destroyed, is doing everything they can to dampen the mood.
So is that enough to make it great, and why/why not?
 

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I said term, not presidency. Feel free to project a win for Trump in 2020. That's not what this thread is about.

So is that enough to make it great, and why/why not?

Destroying the ideology of the left, (i.e. that there exists some a-priori goal of human ethics that should make the work product of one class freely available to another class outside the bounds of free and fair trade) is indeed a noble goal.

This goal cannot be achieved without generating the same levels of hate that inspired a liberal actor in the balcony of Ford's Theater in 1865.

Then as now, actors and Democrats, were the very definition of leftists.
 

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feel free to answer the question that the thread has been started around... is America great now, why or why not?

If by "great" you mean closer to utopia where some slave class tends to our needs in while ensconced in our "safe places," NO!

If by "great" you mean in a position to bend the arc of history to "our way" then the answer is a resounding YES!
 

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A quarter of Trump's term has gone by so far, but this is not specifically about Trump as a President, but about America - why it wasn't great and why it is/isn't now. Please be specific.

What I find interesting is when a Republican is president, most republicans thinks the country is moving in the right direction, most democrats think it is moving in the wrong direction. Just the opposite is true when a democrat is president, democrats think the country is headed in the right direction, republicans the wrong direction. Politics, ideology, party identification seems to determine for them, the partisans which way this country is headed.
 
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