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I like the "Lean:" field. It is interesting when you see a "Libertarian" not only advocate for the State to seize the means of production from private hands but also maliciously work to destroy shareholder wealth.
"Finally" done something?
You probably need to stop depending on faux news.
Trump has finally done something right in this crisis. Shame on GM for offering help only to demand a billion dollars to retrofit their factories. Good on Trump for ordering them to shove it and eat the cost.
I say this is the right action for the right moment but it should be limited in how it is used.
lol...the idiot asked them to make them in a plant they no longer own. :doh
Trump calls on GM to reopen 'abandoned' plant it doesn't own
The man is a ****ing idiot.
Trump has finally done something right in this crisis. Shame on GM for offering help only to demand a billion dollars to retrofit their factories. Good on Trump for ordering them to shove it and eat the cost.
Using war powers for things that aren't related to war doesn't seem amazing to me.
I doubt he watches Fox.
I'm betting you do though... :mrgreen:
We saved GM from oblivion during the financial crisis only for them to turn around and try to price gouge us on ventilators. No. We’re taking what is owed now.
Trump has finally done something right in this crisis. Shame on GM for offering help only to demand a billion dollars to retrofit their factories.
Good on Trump for ordering them to shove it and eat the cost.
Exactly how is GM going to be able to pull this off? They can't immediately switch from producing cars and trucks to producing ventilators overnight.
Of course trump would let its pettiness get in the way. We can't have the government help one of our largest car manufacturers transition into manufacturing life-saving apparatuses, can we now? :roll:
GM’s negotiators had the opportunity to do the right thing, but they didn’t. First GM offered to do it at cost and then demanded $1 billion. Incidentally, that’s about how much we lost saving them from the dustbin of history so, as far as I’m concerned, forcing them to do this at no cost would just be long overdue compensation.
So, punishing GM is more important to you than saving human lives. Got it. I thought you people were "prolife." :lol:
Now is no time to play coy. You know exactly why: because he's a galaxy-class asshat.
I am glad he finally bowed down to the pressure to do so. I hope it's not too little, or too late.
Why did he do this? He said we don't need that many ventilators.
Trump has finally done something right in this crisis. Shame on GM for offering help only to demand a billion dollars to retrofit their factories. Good on Trump for ordering them to shove it and eat the cost.
. Shame on GM for offering help only to demand a billion dollars to retrofit their factories. Good on Trump for ordering them to shove it and eat the cost.
This is weird consider he was on Hannity last night, and argued that he doesn't believe the governors need all the ventilators they are asking for. What he said, was terrible. I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to invoke the PDA in order to save himself from his previous statements. I have heard reports that he has handlers and people calling, giving him advice on clean ups. He did it after his initial Charlottesville comments, Helsinki, and many other.
I am not going to condemn Trump for doing this. Our healthcare workers need help, and protection. However, Trump has a tendency to lie about details, so we will see how this actually works out.
On a side note, I have came to see another similarly between Rev Jim Jones, Trump, and their followers. Jones also had a clean up crew and PR team. They were called this Planning Commission/PC. They knew all of Jones' worst instincts and plans, including mass murdering the followers. The PC were the most loyal followers. They served to insulate Jones, create propaganda, and clean up his messes. Jones' followers did see a lot of his bad instincts. He even talked about mass suicide years before it happened. His followers, however, made a decision to ignore Jones' instincts and impulsive statements. Such instinctual behavior is the most revealing about the person you are following. Instead of recognizing the red flags, the followers rationalized all of his craziness... he didn't mean it, etc.
I personally talked to a Jonestown survivor, and she said, "the hardest thing about leaving a cult, is admitting you're wrong." You let a person define your worldview and reality. Once you buy in, it's hard to leave it. She wasn't totally buying into Jones in the end, but she couldn't bring herself to leave. She survived because she wasn't in Jonestown during the massacre.
GM’s negotiators had the opportunity to do the right thing, but they didn’t. First GM offered to do it at cost and then demanded $1 billion. Incidentally, that’s about how much we lost saving them from the dustbin of history so, as far as I’m concerned, forcing them to do this at no cost would just be long overdue compensation.
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