Trump to Support DACA Protections for More Wall Funding (1 Viewer)

[JacksinPA]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-to-support-daca-protections-for-more-wall-funding-11547920247

The president is scheduled to make an announcement on the budget impasse at 4 p.m.

WASHINGTON—President Trump is planning on Saturday to support protections from deportation for some undocumented immigrants in the U.S. in exchange for $5.7 billion to build the southern border wall, said White House officials familiar with the decision.

Mr. Trump is scheduled to make his announcement at 4 pm. Aides cautioned that the announcement has already been delayed once by an hour, and that the president may still change his approach.
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Interesting ploy but I don't see it going too far with the Dems.

 

[Common Sense 1]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-to-support-daca-protections-for-more-wall-funding-11547920247

The president is scheduled to make an announcement on the budget impasse at 4 p.m.

WASHINGTON—President Trump is planning on Saturday to support protections from deportation for some undocumented immigrants in the U.S. in exchange for $5.7 billion to build the southern border wall, said White House officials familiar with the decision.

Mr. Trump is scheduled to make his announcement at 4 pm. Aides cautioned that the announcement has already been delayed once by an hour, and that the president may still change his approach.
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Interesting ploy but I don't see it going too far with the Dems.

Yup.... The democrats are only interested in using DACA as a ploy to stir up their base. They don't want that issued solved now. Better to stir the pot
and bang president Trump over the head with it.

 

[NeverTrump]

Yup.... The democrats are only interested in using DACA as a ploy to stir up their base. They don't want that issued solved now. Better to stir the pot
and bang president Trump over the head with it.

You really should change your username

 

[Helix]

i thought that Mexico was paying for the wall.

 

[Fishking]

i thought that Mexico was paying for the wall.

That easily still happens.

 

[DarkWizard12]

This is something democrats have wanted for a long time. If they're smart, they'll take it.

 

[MrPeanut]

That and HR 1 would be a deal I would love to see happen.

 

[apdst]

President Trump gave them plenty of rope to hang themselves with.

 

[Helix]

That easily still happens.

cool. no funding needed for ego wall, then.

 

[JacksinPA]

cool. no funding needed for ego wall, then.

Walls don't work as we've seen the tunneling activity in the past few days. They are technology from the Dark Ages. The Mongols still got past the Great Wall of China.

And a wall from the Gulf of Mexico to San Diego will cost a lot more than 5.?B. And it will be in the courts for years over ranchers fighting eminent domain as they are cut off from their land & the water of the Rio Grande.

Read Erwin Rommel on rules of desert warfare: any obstacle can be outflanked. See

https://books.google.com/books?id=7fHnCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA189&lpg=PA189&...rommel rules of desert warfare flabnk&f=false

 

[Fishking]

cool. no funding needed for ego wall, then.

Question, when you buy a house or car, do you pay for it?

 

[Fishking]

Walls don't work as we've seen the tunneling activity in the past few days. And a wall from the Gulf of Mexico to San Diego will cost a lot more than 5.?B.

Read Erwin Rommel on rules of desert warfare: any obstacle can be outflanked. See

https://books.google.com/books?id=7fHnCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA189&lpg=PA189&...rommel rules of desert warfare flabnk&f=false

Walls work. Stop lying. We already have plenty of data on that.

 

[Helix]

Walls don't work as we've seen the tunneling activity in the past few days. They are technology from the Dark Ages. And a wall from the Gulf of Mexico to San Diego will cost a lot more than 5.?B.

Read Erwin Rommel on rules of desert warfare: any obstacle can be outflanked. See

https://books.google.com/books?id=7fHnCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA189&lpg=PA189&...rommel rules of desert warfare flabnk&f=false

i agree that the ego wall is useless. however, if Mexico wants to buy us one and it results in king tangface reopening the government, then whatever.

 

[Helix]

Question, when you buy a house or car, do you pay for it?

is Mexico paying for the wall?

i'll help. no. here, have this since you ignored it in the other thread.

 

[Jetboogieman]

That easily still happens.

So easy in fact.

That it’s not happening and the government is closed over it instead.

 

[Deuce]

That easily still happens.

I mean they're literally asking for a budget appropriation so

 

[Deuce]

Question, when you buy a house or car, do you pay for it?

Yup..

 

[JacksinPA]

Walls work. Stop lying. We already have plenty of data on that.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/borders-and-walls-do-barriers-deter-unauthorized-migration

However, in both cases fortified walls did not prevent crossings into the United States and European Union entirely, but instead shifted flows to other locations that were more remote or less fortified. In the U.S. case, as high-traffic urban routes were closed, migrants and smugglers began to cross in the remote and dangerous deserts of western Arizona. Child migration from Central America to the United States, which surged in 2014, has also been undeterred by enforcement (in fact most unaccompanied minors turn themselves in to border agents), as tens of thousands of children from El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala spontaneously arrive at the U.S. border with Mexico to claim asylum, many knowing they would be admitted into the U.S. pending removal hearings.
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So walls force migrants to flank the ends of the walls, crossing in much more hazardous desert areas. The wall itself does not stop migration.

Recent tunneling activity shows the vulnerability of walls to determined migrants.

So where is this data you referenced?

 

[Fishking]

is Mexico paying for the wall?

i'll help. no. here, have this since you ignored it in the other thread.

When purchasing a house or car do you pay for it?

 

[Fishking]

Yup..

All of it? Buy it outright?

 

[Fishking]

I mean they're literally asking for a budget appropriation so

Correct.

 

[Fishking]

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/borders-and-walls-do-barriers-deter-unauthorized-migration

However, in both cases fortified walls did not prevent crossings into the United States and European Union entirely, but instead shifted flows to other locations that were more remote or less fortified. In the U.S. case, as high-traffic urban routes were closed, migrants and smugglers began to cross in the remote and dangerous deserts of western Arizona. Child migration from Central America to the United States, which surged in 2014, has also been undeterred by enforcement (in fact most unaccompanied minors turn themselves in to border agents), as tens of thousands of children from El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala spontaneously arrive at the U.S. border with Mexico to claim asylum, many knowing they would be admitted into the U.S. pending removal hearings.
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So walls force migrants to flank the ends of the walls, crossing in much more hazardous desert areas. The wall itself does not stop migration.

Recent tunneling activity shows the vulnerability of walls to determined migrants.

So where is this data you referenced?

You literally just supported walls working. Your point is based off of people going to areas that don't have walls, proving walls do, in fact, work.

 

[Deuce]

All of it? Buy it outright?

I paid cash, yes.

Let's skip a step. You think you're making some point here about taking out a loan. Just skip to the part where that has something to do with the wall.

 

[Deuce]

You literally just supported walls working. Your point is based off of people going to areas that don't have walls, proving walls do, in fact, work.

No, the people still crossed. Just in a more dangerous fashion. That's not an improvement, unless you're a sociopath.

 

[JacksinPA]

You literally just supported walls working. Your point is based off of people going to areas that don't have walls, proving walls do, in fact, work.

But they don't stop the influx of migrants. I think you're missing the point: walls do not stop migrants.