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Trump threatens Turkey with economic devastation if it attacks Syrian Kurd militia

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This coming after threatening EU companies and Germany with sanctions if they continue to go ahead with NordStream 2, America yet again threatening it's allies ... soon it will just be America and Israel and their ever loyal and obedient English


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-usa/trump-threatens-turkey-with-economic-devastation-if-it-attacks-syrian-kurd-militia-idUSKCN1P808W

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump threatened Turkey with economic devastation if it attacks a U.S.-allied Kurdish militia in Syria, weakening the Turkish lira and prompting sharp criticism from Ankara on Monday.

Relations between the two NATO allies have been strained over U.S. backing for the Kurdish YPG, which Turkey views as an extension of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) that is waging a decades-long insurgency on Turkish soil.
A diplomatic crisis last year, when Trump imposed sanctions on two of President Tayyip Erdogan’s ministers and raised tariffs on Turkish metal exports, helped push the Turkish lira to a record low in August.
Trump said on Sunday the United States was starting the military pullout from Syria that he announced in December but that it would continue to hit Islamic State fighters there.
“Will attack again from existing nearby base if it reforms. Will devastate Turkey economically if they hit Kurds. Create 20 mile safe zone...Likewise, do not want the Kurds to provoke Turkey,” Trump wrote on Twitter.

The lira TRYTOM=D3 slid as much as 1.6 percent to 5.5450 against the dollar.
Turkish presidential spokesman Ibrahim Kalin said Trump should respect Washington’s alliance with Ankara.
“Mr @realDonaldTrump It is a fatal mistake to equate Syrian Kurds with the PKK, which is on the US terrorists list, and its Syria branch PYD/YPG,” spokesman Ibrahim Kalin wrote on Twitter.
“Terrorists can’t be your partners & allies. Turkey expects the US to honor our strategic partnership and doesn’t want it to be shadowed by terrorist propaganda,” he said on Monday.
 
This coming after threatening EU companies and Germany with sanctions if they continue to go ahead with NordStream 2, America yet again threatening it's allies ... soon it will just be America and Israel and their ever loyal and obedient English

At best, this statement from you is ignorant spin, though I prefer to think of this as a baldfaced lie.

Trump didn't threaten EU companies and Germany with sanctions related to Nordstream 2. Trump only reminded them of sanctions already in place under The Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA).

And...since when has Turkey been an ally of the US? Oh...wait...I remember...Turkey was an ally under Obama when they were protecting that terrorist organization that Obama loved: The Muslim Brotherhood.

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-usa/trump-threatens-turkey-with-economic-devastation-if-it-attacks-syrian-kurd-militia-idUSKCN1P808W

You can be sure, though, that when Trump openly threatens Turkey with economic devastation, he 1) has a good reason to make that threat, 2) knows he can absolutely follow through with that threat and 3) if necessary, WILL follow through with that threat.

Turkey would be wise to take heed.
 
Trump's continued foreign policy via Twitter... mess after mess.

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Turkey is in NATO, which makes them our ally. And here's Trump threatening yet another one of our allies.

It's going take at least a generation for the US to repair the damage this guy is doing overseas with our allies.
 
This is the problem with governance by Twitter. What should be a closed-door conversation between diplomats, is now a public forum. Turkey is then put in a position to ignore Trump and face consequences or backdown and lose face.
 
A couple of weekd ago, the Trump haters were whining that President Trump was abandoning the Kurds. :lamo
 
This is really a poor way to curry favor with "dictators".
 
This coming after threatening EU companies and Germany with sanctions if they continue to go ahead with NordStream 2, America yet again threatening it's allies ... soon it will just be America and Israel and their ever loyal and obedient English


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-usa/trump-threatens-turkey-with-economic-devastation-if-it-attacks-syrian-kurd-militia-idUSKCN1P808W


With Trump, Russia is our only allie and this is exactly what Putin wants. Dumb Trump supporters are so brain dead, not sure how much proof you need
 
A couple of weekd ago, the Trump haters were whining that President Trump was abandoning the Kurds. :lamo

I guess he could mandate US citizens drop their investments in the Canadian companies who own assets in turkey, but other than that or military hardware sales, I don’t see how he could hurt them economically.
 
At best, this statement from you is ignorant spin, though I prefer to think of this as a baldfaced lie.

Trump didn't threaten EU companies and Germany with sanctions related to Nordstream 2. Trump only reminded them of sanctions already in place under The Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA).

And...since when has Turkey been an ally of the US? Oh...wait...I remember...Turkey was an ally under Obama when they were protecting that terrorist organization that Obama loved: The Muslim Brotherhood.



You can be sure, though, that when Trump openly threatens Turkey with economic devastation, he 1) has a good reason to make that threat, 2) knows he can absolutely follow through with that threat and 3) if necessary, WILL follow through with that threat.

Turkey would be wise to take heed.

the US ambassador to Berlin sent a letter to German companies last week so your claims of me lying are far off the mark sunshine

https://www.dw.com/en/us-ambassador...german-firms-over-russian-pipeline/a-47062540
 
the US ambassador to Berlin sent a letter to German companies last week so your claims of me lying are far off the mark sunshine

https://www.dw.com/en/us-ambassador...german-firms-over-russian-pipeline/a-47062540

Seems your article chose not to provide these quotes:

A letter envoy Richard Grenell sent to several businesses “reminds that any company operating in the Russian energy export pipeline sector… is in danger under CAATSA of US sanctions,” an embassy spokesman told AFP.

The Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) adopted in 2017 targets Iran, Russia and North Korea.

The letter by Grenell, a close ally of President Donald Trump, “is not meant to be a threat, but a clear message of US policy,” the spokesman said.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/c...s-sanctions-over-russia-germany-gas-pipeline/

Isn't it amazing what different news sources will...and will not...tell you, depending on their bias?
 
This coming after threatening EU companies and Germany with sanctions if they continue to go ahead with NordStream 2, America yet again threatening it's allies ... soon it will just be America and Israel and their ever loyal and obedient English


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-usa/trump-threatens-turkey-with-economic-devastation-if-it-attacks-syrian-kurd-militia-idUSKCN1P808W

Whiney-faced snowflake democrats should get a grip. Trump is doing the right thing. He is not drawing crayon lines in the sand the whole world knows he will not enforce. Trump is telling other nations not to attack American troops or they will face serious consequences. Trump's threats, unlike Obama's in the past, have teeth and are not just puff and smoke.
 
Seems your article chose not to provide these quotes:



Isn't it amazing what different news sources will...and will not...tell you, depending on their bias?

CAATSA has nothing to do with Europe ... you cannot force other countries to obey your foreign policy ... we don't answer to America .... especially when it effect European security ... it is our business and not America's decision to decide Europe's security ... we have seen via Snowden what America thinks of European security
 
CAATSA has nothing to do with Europe ... you cannot force other countries to obey your foreign policy ... we don't answer to America .... especially when it effect European security ... it is our business and not America's decision to decide Europe's security ... we have seen via Snowden what America thinks of European security

CAATSA can affect ANYONE or ANY COUNTRY.

Here is DoS public guidance pertaining to CAATSA Sec. 232: https://www.state.gov/e/enr/275195.htm

Here are some of the details of sanctions that could be imposed:

The sanctions under this section may include, for example, prohibitions on guarantees, insurance, and extension of credit from the export-import bank for projects in connection with the sanctioned party, and prohibition of transfers of credit or payments between financial institutions that involve any interest of the sanctioned party. (See section 4(c) of the UFSA.)

https://www.globaltradeandsanctionslaw.com/russia-sanctions-caatsa-updates-guidance-enforcement/

Now...for sure...the US cannot "force" other countries to do anything. However, we can administer consequences for decisions that other countries make. That is what CAATSA provides for.

btw, you DO know that the pipeline we are talking about is an obvious danger to European security, right? Even Europeans recognize this.
 
This coming after threatening EU companies and Germany with sanctions if they continue to go ahead with NordStream 2, America yet again threatening it's allies ... soon it will just be America and Israel and their ever loyal and obedient English


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-usa/trump-threatens-turkey-with-economic-devastation-if-it-attacks-syrian-kurd-militia-idUSKCN1P808W
No it won't. The alternative of the Russians sucks a helluva lot worse, and they know it. I wouldn't get wrapped around the axle on this.
 
CAATSA has nothing to do with Europe ... you cannot force other countries to obey your foreign policy ... we don't answer to America .... especially when it effect European security ... it is our business and not America's decision to decide Europe's security ... we have seen via Snowden what America thinks of European security

Well, European countries that are members of NATO are allies of the USA. So Europe's security is USA business.
 
CAATSA can affect ANYONE or ANY COUNTRY.

Here is DoS public guidance pertaining to CAATSA Sec. 232: https://www.state.gov/e/enr/275195.htm

Here are some of the details of sanctions that could be imposed:



Now...for sure...the US cannot "force" other countries to do anything. However, we can administer consequences for decisions that other countries make. That is what CAATSA provides for.

btw, you DO know that the pipeline we are talking about is an obvious danger to European security, right? Even Europeans recognize this.
TAP is a danger to European security? The hell you say.
 
CAATSA can affect ANYONE or ANY COUNTRY.

Here is DoS public guidance pertaining to CAATSA Sec. 232: https://www.state.gov/e/enr/275195.htm

Here are some of the details of sanctions that could be imposed:



Now...for sure...the US cannot "force" other countries to do anything. However, we can administer consequences for decisions that other countries make. That is what CAATSA provides for.

btw, you DO know that the pipeline we are talking about is an obvious danger to European security, right? Even Europeans recognize this.

says who America ... because it means we won't be buying over priced US LNG ... the EU countries opposing it are the Baltic 3 and Poland .... and Poland is bitching because it is hoping to be the main hub of American LNG into the EU .... and the last time i looked Ukraine was not a EU country ... but Ukraine has proven to be a threat to EU's supply of Russian gas via Ukraine hence Russia is bypassing Ukraine

and you do realise hit us with sanctions and we will reciprocate in kind with our own sanctions and don't think we won't
 
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No it won't. The alternative of the Russians sucks a helluva lot worse, and they know it. I wouldn't get wrapped around the axle on this.

up until America's instigated coup in Ukraine Russia and the EU were doing fine especially on the trade front .... you had David Cameron pleading to Putin to help keep the UK united in 2014

Well, European countries that are members of NATO are allies of the USA. So Europe's security is USA business.

i will tell you again boy ... Europe does not answer to America anymore .....NATO is living on borrowed time ... if we go ahead with a EU army then we won't need NATO or American interference
 
says who America ... because it means we won't be buying over priced US LNG ... the EU countries opposing it are the Baltic 3 and Poland .... and Poland is bitching because it is hoping to be the main hub of American LNG into the EU .... and the last time i looked Ukraine was not a EU country ... but Ukraine has proven to be a threat to EU's supply of Russian gas via Ukraine hence Russia is bypassing Ukraine

and you do realise hit us with sanctions and we will reciprocate in kind with our own sanctions and don't think we won't

Seriously? You support placing yourself directly at the mercy of Russia?
 
if we go ahead with a EU army then we won't need NATO or American interference

Just sounds like y'all are itching to try for one of those European Empires again.
 
I'm glad they are moving slowly with the withdrawal. I'm genuinely concerned at what might happen to the Kurds. The "economic devastation" line is just standard Trump stuff, but I'll sit here and hope it works.
 
up until America's instigated coup in Ukraine Russia and the EU were doing fine especially on the trade front .... you had David Cameron pleading to Putin to help keep the UK united in 2014



i will tell you again boy ... Europe does not answer to America anymore .....NATO is living on borrowed time ... if we go ahead with a EU army then we won't need NATO or American interference

Son, you don't have the cash or the will to form a real fighting army without the UK.

Here's your new EU military flag

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A couple of weekd ago, the Trump haters were whining that President Trump was abandoning the Kurds.

There are Kurds and then there are Kurds, but to some they all look alike I guess.... :roll:

Those who don't much care for tRump do notice he is doing what he and his followers blasted Obama for- declaring victory over a terrorist group and withdrawing allowing those who aren't our friends to control more territory.

I thought the rabid right hated the idea of Russia re-emerging as a global power? Didn't those armchair warriors rant about 'losing' the Crimea and the Ukraine??? :peace
 
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