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Trump threatens to veto major defense bill unless Congress repeals Section 230

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Trump threatens to veto major defense bill unless Congress repeals Section 230




Once again (Ukraine was the initial attempt), Donald Trump is holding Congressional defense funding hostage unless he gets his way. Trump demands that.....
  • 1) US Army bases named after Confederate Generals and slave traders must keep these names. Trump has a love for the Confederacy (and slavery apparently).
  • 2) Trump demands that Internet Section 230 be removed. This statute protects social media platforms from Trumps vindictiveness for pointing out when he is lying.
Pretty soon you'll be gone Donnie and can't screw over the military anymore. **** you.
 
There's new confidence in overriding a veto because the House in Conference Committee with the Senate adopted the Senate provision to extend the Confederate crap timeline to 3 years instead of one year.


Congress Likely to Override Trump Veto on Changing Army Base Names, Key Lawmaker Says

Military.com

Congress likely has the votes to override President Donald Trump's threatened veto of the entire defense policy bill over a provision that would change the names of Army bases honoring Confederate generals, according to a top member of the House Armed Services Committee. "I think the president is going to be hard-pressed to veto over that issue," said Rep. Anthony Brown, D-Maryland, a retired Army colonel and committee vice chair.


Congress has been unable to override a veto, which requires a two-thirds vote in the House and Senate, since Trump has been in office, but "this may very well be the first that we would override," Brown said at a July 31 virtual forum hosted by Center for Strategic and International Studies. In his 30-year Army career, Brown said he served at several of the bases in question. He said troops now in the military are "much more aware of these things," particularly in the aftermath of the Black Lives Matter protests nationwide. Brown also praised moves by the Marine Corps and the Navy to ban displays of the Confederate flag on bases. The then Defense Secretary Mark Esper said July 10 the only flags approved for display on bases are the U.S. flag; the flags of states and territories; the POW-MIA flag; those of allied countries; unit flags; senior leader flags; and flags flown for protocol purposes.



There are also provisions on the internet Section 230 and new severe sanctions against Russian Gazprom owned Nord Stream 2 under the Baltic and Gazprom owned Turkstream under the Black Sea each of which are under the same sanctions on the same timeline.

Some reports are circulating Trump would accept the base renaming provision he personally doesn't much care about if the internet Section 230 that hits him personally is removed. Other reports say this, if it were to occur, would strengthen the possibility of an override.
 
Defense Bill Released Without Section 230 Repeal, Despite Trump's Threats to Veto




Congress has apparently decided to call Trump's bluff.
 
The House passed the National Defense Authorization Act 335-78 and the Senate also passed the bill by a vote of 84-13 — giving final approval to the measure with a veto-proof majority after President Donald Trump threatened to spike it unless it included his demands to change internet liability laws (strike down Section 230), and cease reforms to rename Army military bases named after Confederate officers and slave-holders.

Trump can veto the HDAA, but Congress has the votes to override any Trump veto.
 
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