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Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in USA

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Ok, so let me get this straight.

You have interpreted Trump's conspirtorial and nutjob implication that Obama sympathizes with terrorists...after an islamic terrorist attack...to mean that Trump was referencing Obama's willingness to meet with an organization that is neither a terrorist organization nor an Islamic organization?

"Try giving short, simple answers."
 

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So we've gone from the club shooting to blaming Obama because Muslim Brotherhood, and then socialists, and then of course Black Lives Matter and DEEERRRRRRRP!!!!
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Bush was smart enough to know that people, being tribalistic, would try and turn this into an "us vs them" thing and that wouldn't help anybody.

Obama, agreeing with that premise, did the same.

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

And.... So what?

A little over half a hour ago you claimed it was a " Bull **** conspiracy theory".

Remember ?
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

What does socialism have to do with Trumps statements?
Trump is saying BO is inviting terrorism. Now, BLM is a terrorist organization and BO invited BLM into the White House, so, ipso facto, BO invited terrorists into the White House. Seems like Trump might be right.
Who excused anything? Obama did meet with the terrorist group in the white house.
Obama Invites Black Lives Matter Leader to White House Again for Discussion on Race
 
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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

So... What does this have to do with Trump making up a conspiracy theory about Obama allowing muslims to commit terrorist acts?

I notice you don't actually try to deny my assertion..... Obama is a genuine bad guy and with him everything is politics. I have the feeling a lot of things about Obama worse than this will come out after Democrats are no longer in power and able to hide it.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Did ya see the terrorism at San Jose?

No, what acts of terrorism were committed in San Jose by members of the BLM movement? I would like actual news sources and polices reports documenting the terrorism that occurred.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

A little over half a hour ago you claimed it was a " Bull **** conspiracy theory".

Remember ?

No I didnt.... I claimed what Trump said is a bull**** conspiracy theory.

Trump is saying BO is inviting terrorism. Now, BLM is a terrorist organization and BO invited BLM into the White House, so ipso facto, BO invited terrorists into the White House. Seems like Trump might be right.
No government classifies BLM as a terrorist organization. Good try.
 

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No, what acts of terrorism were committed in San Jose by members of the BLM movement? I would like actual news sources and polices reports documenting the terrorism that occurred.

We may as well throw PETA and feminism into the thread, because at this point why not.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

I notice you don't actually try to deny my assertion..... Obama is a genuine bad guy and with him everything is politics. I have the feeling a lot of things about Obama worse than this will come out after Democrats are no longer in power and able to hide it.

I guess I'll ask again: "What does this have to do with Trump making up a conspiracy theory about Obama allowing muslims to commit terrorist acts?"
Feel free to try to answer or just keep on offering empty platitudes to try to excuse Trump and his bull****.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

I notice you don't actually try to deny my assertion..... Obama is a genuine bad guy and with him everything is politics. I have the feeling a lot of things about Obama worse than this will come out after Democrats are no longer in power and able to hide it.

How so? Can you site specific things Obama has done that make him a "bad guy" as opposed to a good guy?
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

No, what acts of terrorism were committed in San Jose by members of the BLM movement? I would like actual news sources and polices reports documenting the terrorism that occurred.
No one jumped out and said this carnage in San Jose was brought to you by BLM, but, the demonstrations and violence were all a standard MO of BLM (or groups with similar allegiances).
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

It's beginning to look like that or he's just that incompetent...

I've said these are the only two choices for years now when involving Obama and his ME policy.

Dealing with Israel, Iran, SA, Egypt, Yemen, Pakistan, Libya, Algeria, et al...

He's either got to be the dumbest SOB alive or he's in cahoots.

That is the appearance Obama has given.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

What does socialism have to do with Trumps statements?

Nothing, I was responding to cabse5 (try to keep up), and I was pointing out historical facts about Your Ideology. Tell me: How can you embrace an Ideology that is consistently proven to be the worst thing to ever happen to the human race?
 

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Based on the Trump supporters in this thread demonstrating that they are completely unable to form a single cogent thought, it's important to remember Trump's own rule in his university playbook: “You don’t sell products, benefits or solutions — you sell feelings.”

The Trump supporters don't know why or how Obama had anything to do with the club shooting, but they sure know how they feel, and they feel from the gut that Obama is responsible somehow.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

I guess I'll ask again: "What does this have to do with Trump making up a conspiracy theory about Obama allowing muslims to commit terrorist acts?"
Feel free to try to answer or just keep on offering empty platitudes to try to excuse Trump and his bull****.
I guess the question persists: if BO is willing to let BLM terrorists into the White House (terrorists he doesn't consider terrorists, maybe patriots?), is BO also willing to let in other terrorists/patriots into the White House?
 
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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

I guess I'll ask again: "What does this have to do with Trump making up a conspiracy theory about Obama allowing muslims to commit terrorist acts?"
Feel free to try to answer or just keep on offering empty platitudes to try to excuse Trump and his bull****.

Obama's adminstrations past behavior indicates it's probably not Bull
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

I guess the question persists: if BO is willing to let BLM terrorists into the White House (terrorists he doesn't consider terrorists, maybe patriots?) is BO also willing to let in other terrorists/patriots into the White House?

Are you trying to do a Poe/Stephen Colbert type routine? If so, it really is not working well. If not...LoLz...
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Regale us on how you think BO has done a fine job combating terror.

Regale me with a comment that has anything to do with what I posted.

My post doesn't suggest anything relating to the quality of Obama's job at combatting terror, and your...mine...or anyone elses opinion on the matter is irrelevant to my point.

My point was this...

Arguing that Obama is "not tough" or "not smart" in a broad sense is a difficult one to sell widely, if for no other reason than the basic notions of partisanship and tribalism where a strong segment of the population would naturally react negatively towards such a suggestion about someone they voted for/someone in their party/the POTUS.

However, said argument softens in terms of peoples ability to accept it when placed in an "either or" capacity with something like "The President wants americans to be killed".

Said argument is not aimed at people like you who are likely on the bandwagon for Trump; there's no need to convince those who are already convinced. This style of argument, this style of sales, is aimed at those more on the fence and thus able to still be potentially persuaded/manipulated towards his direction.
 

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Are you trying to do a Poe/Stephen Colbert type routine? If so, it really is not working well. If not...LoLz...

Oh, I don't know about that, because I was thinking "Stephen Colbert" myself.
 

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Read more and video @: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in the United States

:doh:dohThis man is the presumptive nominee for the GOP.... I can't believe there is enough people to takes Trump seriously that he is now the presumptive nominee for the GOP. But hey, I guess there are enough crazy people to actually believe this bull**** that Trump says. [/FONT][/COLOR]

Personally, I don't find it crazy at all and there are a lot of people very concerned about his beliefs. Quite honestly, I was one of his, BO's biggest fans and I voted for him in his first election. But having watched over and over his lack of response to the terror going on around us, it isn't insane at all to question why he acts the way he does. He acts superior to most American's number one and that is my biggest reasoning by my Never Again Obama or the like belief. This country isn't about the beliefs of one man - but BO seems to think how everyone else feels in the country is irrelevant. From the very beginning, he has been clear that Terrorism and the terrorists are the "JV Team and not worth mentioning." Instead, he'd rather focus on gun control, hate crimes, racial differences, border control and health care. The number one thing most tyrannical leaders have in common is their ability to deflect from their ultimate goals/agenda. So for the many out there who believe it is crazy to question the lack of effort BO has made in fighting terrorists both at home and abroad, ask yourself if his agenda has been a classic example of deflect and accomplish.

And HC is trailing right on his footsteps - talk about deflection - listen to every answer she's ever given about anything negative about her.....truly listen and you'll see nothing but deflection.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Well that settles it. Absolutely nothing. Simply a distraction.
Tell me: How can you embrace an Ideology that is consistently proven to be the worst thing to ever happen to the human race?
Nope. Not the topic of the thread.
Obama's adminstrations past behavior indicates it's probably not Bull
Except it doesnt. Glad you're buying into a conspiracy theory based on 0 actual evidence.
I guess the question persists: if BO is willing to let BLM terrorists into the White House (terrorists he doesn't consider terrorists, maybe patriots?), is BO also willing to let in other terrorists/patriots into the White House?
BLM isnt a terrorist organization.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

You accuse me of a strawman. I want you and Zyphlin to explain why your posts aren't strawmen.

You don't know what a strawman is, do you?

A strawman generally requires you to be responding to someone making a point. Considering my post wasn't in response to anyone, but was rather speaking about Trump's statement and my guess about his tactics, it's hard to suggest it is a strawman.
 

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Personally, I don't find it crazy at all and there are a lot of people very concerned about his beliefs. Quite honestly, I was one of his, BO's biggest fans and I voted for him in his first election. But having watched over and over his lack of response to the terror going on around us, it isn't insane at all to question why he acts the way he does. He acts superior to most American's number one and that is my biggest reasoning by my Never Again Obama or the like belief. This country isn't about the beliefs of one man - but BO seems to think how everyone else feels in the country is irrelevant. From the very beginning, he has been clear that Terrorism and the terrorists are the "JV Team and not worth mentioning." Instead, he'd rather focus on gun control, hate crimes, racial differences, border control and health care. The number one thing most tyrannical leaders have in common is their ability to deflect from their ultimate goals/agenda. So for the many out there who believe it is crazy to question the lack of effort BO has made in fighting terrorists both at home and abroad, ask yourself if his agenda has been a classic example of deflect and accomplish.

And HC is trailing right on his footsteps - talk about deflection - listen to every answer she's ever given about anything negative about her.....truly listen and you'll see nothing but deflection.

So essentially you dont find it a crazy idea that Obama is purposely allowing muslims to commit terrorist acts in the USA because you disagree with his policies... :doh Dear god. :doh
 
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