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Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in USA

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

You made some far off, tangential statement and you just expect us to go along with it? Please connect the dots between meeting with American Muslim leaders a year and a half ago and the mass shooting. And try to be cogent.

Now you're lying :)

My statement is not far off at all. The topic of this thread and the sources cited are about Obama's reluctance to call it what it is.

My comments are the only relevant facts.

Obama had terrorist group to the white house. That's what gives Americans this idea.

Now you post something relevant.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Regale us on how you think BO has done a fine job combating terror.

This is really, really complex, so try and follow close: Zyphlin never said Obama did anything. See, I know this because I read his post. Reading Is Fundamental. You should try it...
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

You're absolutely right Obama doesn't care.

Soon, our apology in chief will be able to have all the muslim extremists over at his home without fear of criticism. Once he's out of the white house, he can apologize to any group he pleases without representing our country.

I'm not sure how you missed my question the first time since it was half of a two sentence post, but let's try this again:

Bush didn't call it Islamic terrorism either. Would you like to take a stab at why that might be?
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Now you're lying :)

My statement is not far off at all. The topic of this thread and the sources cited are about Obama's reluctance to call it what it is.

My comments are the only relevant facts.

Obama had terrorist group to the white house. That's what gives Americans this idea.

Now you post something relevant.

I said "be cogent." Your position in this thread has been a meandering, undisciplined mess. One more time: Please connect the dots between meeting with American Muslim leaders a year and a half ago and the mass shooting. And try to be cogent.

Unless you're unclear on what "connect the dots" means?
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Lol you want to know why people think Obama sympathizes with terrorists.

It's because he invites them to the Presidential home! lol grow up

Wanna let me know how the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood is any way connected? Also, if you think the White House meeting with the personnel of an Islamist political party or officials who openly endorse Islamism and this shocks you, then you must really be shocked when Presidents meet with officials of Saudi Arabia, or as the Politico article you cited points out that past officials have met with Brotherhood officials ( Bush Admin Talked With Muslim Brotherhood, But Rove Says Obama's Outreach Makes 'America Look Weak' | ThinkProgress ).. But hey I get it, to excuse Trumps bull**** you henge you must move the goalposts. Typical Trumper.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Regale us on how you think BO has done a fine job combating terror.

This is really, really complex, so try and follow close: Zyphlin never said Obama did anything. See, I know this because I read his post. Reading Is Fundamental. You should try it...
Tell me where I posted Zyphlin posted BO did a fine job combating terrorism.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Replace Muslim terrorists with socialist terrorists and then the item has EVERYTHING to do with your thread...literally

Wow..... You guys are really really getting desperate. So let me know how BLM has to do with Trump making up bull**** conspiracy theories?
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

It is extremely apparent from the replies in this thread that Trump created his statements for the appropriate target demographic.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Progressive Liberals sympathize with Muslims because it is the only group who hates traditional America more than they do.

They disserve each other.

If Muslims ever obtain total power Progressive Liberals will be the first with their heads chopped off.

If Progressive Liberals ever obtain total power Muslims will be the first in concentration camps.

So... What does this have to do with Trump making up a conspiracy theory about Obama allowing muslims to commit terrorist acts?
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Tell me where I posted Zyphlin posted BO did a fine job combating terrorism.

So why would you want Zyphlin to tell you something he may not believe? I mean, we all know the answer, you where trying(and failing) to create a strawman. You did this because you where unable to counter a single thing Zyphlin said. You failed, and got called on it.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

I see this as a quasi "when did you stop hitting your wife". Or more specifically the "fat girl in a group of friends" technique.

Trump wants to put forward the message that Obama is weak and dumb, and thus this is why this stuff happens. He then proceeds to put forward the message that the only two options are "weak and dumb" OR "intentionally allowing it".

One is overly simplistic and debatable at best, and by itself would be largely dismissed or glossed over off hand. The other, however, is ludicrous in nature. And as such, it serves as the "Fat girl in a group of friends"....by making the first option look better and more reasonable in comparison.

It's like going "Hey man, you'll race that guy. I mean, unless you're a *****"...thus trying to present two options "race or be a *****".

It's not that uncommon of a sales technique or even just a general social one; put a ludicrous option next to a bad one, and the bad one suddenly seems good.

What's worse is when it's mandatory. But that will only be the case in a despotic society. Trump's comments aren't characteristic of a despotic society, however. For example, the POTUS could be impeached by Congress if she tried to disband it. Hence, Trump is only courting Conservatives. That type of rhetoric only works on the campaign trail.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

That's very useful.

I state a fact that Obama had over members of a terrorist group to the white house, which leads most people to wonder why the President of the United States is meeting with them... you just attack me.

And you ask "Why do people think Obama sympathizes with them??"

lol

Dude, the Muslim Brotherhood is not a terrorist organization.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

I see this as a quasi "when did you stop hitting your wife". Or more specifically the "fat girl in a group of friends" technique.

Trump wants to put forward the message that Obama is weak and dumb, and thus this is why this stuff happens. He then proceeds to put forward the message that the only two options are "weak and dumb" OR "intentionally allowing it".

One is overly simplistic and debatable at best, and by itself would be largely dismissed or glossed over off hand. The other, however, is ludicrous in nature. And as such, it serves as the "Fat girl in a group of friends"....by making the first option look better and more reasonable in comparison.

It's like going "Hey man, you'll race that guy. I mean, unless you're a *****"...thus trying to present two options "race or be a *****".

It's not that uncommon of a sales technique or even just a general social one; put a ludicrous option next to a bad one, and the bad one suddenly seems good.

So why would you want Zyphlin to tell you something he may not believe? I mean, we all know the answer, you where trying(and failing) to create a strawman. You did this because you where unable to counter a single thing Zyphlin said. You failed, and got called on it.
You accuse me of a strawman. I want you and Zyphlin to explain why your posts aren't strawmen.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Replace Muslim terrorists with socialist terrorists and then the item has EVERYTHING to do with your thread...literally

And Socialist are 1000 times worse. A lot of people have been killed in the name of Religion but during the 20th century Socialism killed more people than all religions have in all human history.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Dude, the Muslim Brotherhood is not a terrorist organization.
BLM, dude.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Tell me where I posted Zyphlin posted BO did a fine job combating terrorism.

You're really going to claim that was not the implied meaning of this post?
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

BLM, dude.

A) I, much like everyone else who has called you on this, do not see the relevance of ****ing Black Lives Matter to this discussion; and

B) They are not "terrorist" organization, **** dude.
 

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A) I, much like everyone else who has called you on this, do not see the relevance of ****ing Black Lives Matter to this discussion; and

B) They are not "terrorist" organization, **** dude.
BLM is a terrorist organization. That makes it pertinent to your A and B. OK, what's your definition of a terror organization, dude?
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

BLM is a terrorist organization. That makes it pertinent to your A and B.

:lamo
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Did ya see the terrorism at San Jose?
 

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BLM is a terrorist organization. That makes it pertinent to your A and B.

Ok, so let me get this straight.

You have interpreted Trump's conspirtorial and nutjob implication that Obama sympathizes with terrorists...after an islamic terrorist attack...to mean that Trump was referencing Obama's willingness to meet with an organization that is neither a terrorist organization nor an Islamic organization?
 

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Nope. Just don't think Obama cares. Hence him never admitting it's Islamic terrorism. He's a coward. Come on, we've had the dude for 8 years. Haven't picked up on it? I was actually super surprised he even used the 'T' word in his speech. It's usually avoided!! Making progress.

BO narrative has always been "it's the guns, not the people". Clinton has picked this up, though since she supported the AWB back in the 90's it wasn't like she had to be dragged to the position. This plays to their base while maintaining political correctness. Transitioning to using the word "terrorism" is not the huge leap some make it out to be: it's just a matter of time that the adjective becomes "domestic" rather than "islamic". The first gives some support (in their minds at any rate) to tighten gun control, while the latter does not give their ilk a clear political agenda.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Ok, so let me get this straight.

You have interpreted Trump's conspirtorial and nutjob implication that Obama sympathizes with terrorists...after an islamic terrorist attack...to mean that Trump was referencing Obama's willingness to meet with an organization that is neither a terrorist organization nor an Islamic organization?
You're saying BLM isn't a terrorist organization?
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

Sure. He doesn't care. Right.

Bush didn't call it Islamic terrorism either. Would you like to take a stab at why that might be?

Bush was smart enough to know that people, being tribalistic, would try and turn this into an "us vs them" thing and that wouldn't help anybody.

Obama, agreeing with that premise, did the same.
 

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Re: Trump Suggests Obama Is Purposely Allowing Muslims To Commit Terrorist Acts in US

And Socialist are 1000 times worse. A lot of people have been killed in the name of Religion but during the 20th century Socialism killed more people than all religions have in all human history.

What does socialism have to do with Trumps statements?
 
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