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Trump signs order prioritizing job skills over college degree in government hiring

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Original source: USA today. Trump signs order prioritizing job skills over college degree in government hiring

Basically, a slap in the face to anyone that worked hard and invested in a college degree. Trump supports who you know over what you know... now we all have to follow that.

“This will ensure that we’re able to hire based on talent and expand our universe to qualified candidates and ensure a more equitable hiring process,” Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and senior advisor, told reporters on Friday."

Anyone see the irony there?
 
Aletheia said:
Original source: USA today. Trump signs order prioritizing job skills over college degree in government hiring

Basically, a slap in the face to anyone that worked hard and invested in a college degree. Trump supports who you know over what you know... now we all have to follow that.

“This will ensure that we’re able to hire based on talent and expand our universe to qualified candidates and ensure a more equitable hiring process,” Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and senior advisor, told reporters on Friday."

Anyone see the irony there?
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Based on what we see.....college, especially Ivy League, should be a disqualifier. Community College of the US Military is a notable exception.

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Aletheia said:
Original source: USA today. Trump signs order prioritizing job skills over college degree in government hiring

Basically, a slap in the face to anyone that worked hard and invested in a college degree. Trump supports who you know over what you know... now we all have to follow that.

“This will ensure that we’re able to hire based on talent and expand our universe to qualified candidates and ensure a more equitable hiring process,” Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and senior advisor, told reporters on Friday."

Anyone see the irony there?
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In some cases it certainly makes sense. Why not hire someone who has years of experience writing computer code (but lacks a college degree) over someone without that coding experience but who has a college degree in music (for a government job writing code)?
 
Aletheia said:
Original source: USA today. Trump signs order prioritizing job skills over college degree in government hiring

Basically, a slap in the face to anyone that worked hard and invested in a college degree. Trump supports who you know over what you know... now we all have to follow that.

“This will ensure that we’re able to hire based on talent and expand our universe to qualified candidates and ensure a more equitable hiring process,” Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and senior advisor, told reporters on Friday."

Anyone see the irony there?
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I agree, even though I got a degree. Too much is about whittling down the application pool from 500 for a dingbat job to 50 when you require a degree to apply.
 
Aletheia said:
Original source: USA today. Trump signs order prioritizing job skills over college degree in government hiring

Basically, a slap in the face to anyone that worked hard and invested in a college degree. Trump supports who you know over what you know... now we all have to follow that.

“This will ensure that we’re able to hire based on talent and expand our universe to qualified candidates and ensure a more equitable hiring process,” Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and senior advisor, told reporters on Friday."

Anyone see the irony there?
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When you mean work hard, do you mean paying for it. It is not that hard to get a BA in college, aside from the loan part.

Depending on the degree, getting a BA is just as easy as getting a high school diploma. You would be surprised how many easy college courses you can take - geology, women studies, intro to music, etc
 
Maybe he should work on his own hiring skills first.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
In some cases it certainly makes sense. Why not hire someone who has years of experience writing computer code (but lacks a college degree) over someone without that coding experience but who has a college degree in music (for a government job writing code)?
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It also prioritizes those who have sat around for years with less skills and knowledge to be hired before a college graduate, dis-incentivizing getting a college degree. It puts a priority on nepotism and who you know over hard work and years of investing in education. The overall effect is regressive and decreases competency and progress. Anyone could look at Covid-19 results vs. the rest of the world, and see that something is terribly wrong with the results of the wealthiest nation. I don't think this step will mitigate that problem much.
 
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If you have a more relevant skillset than the person with a degree in Bagpiping or Egyptology, then why shouldn't you get the job?
 
Eriech said:
Based on what we see.....college, especially Ivy League, should be a disqualifier. Community College of the US Military is a notable exception.

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Do you prefer your doctors without degrees?
 
Aletheia said:
Original source: USA today. Trump signs order prioritizing job skills over college degree in government hiring

Basically, a slap in the face to anyone that worked hard and invested in a college degree. Trump supports who you know over what you know... now we all have to follow that.

“This will ensure that we’re able to hire based on talent and expand our universe to qualified candidates and ensure a more equitable hiring process,” Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and senior advisor, told reporters on Friday."

Anyone see the irony there?
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Trump has obviously run out of college educated supporters to hire. We know what his real priority is too and it has nothing to do with skills or "talent".
 
Aletheia said:
It also prioritizes those who have sat around for years with less skills and knowledge to be hired before a college graduate, rewarding and dis-incentivizing getting a college degree. It puts a priority on nepotism and who you know over hard work and years of investing in education. The overall effect is regressive and decreases competency and progress. Anyone could look at Covid-19 results vs. the rest of the world, and see that something is terribly wrong with the results of the wealthiest nation. I don't think this step will mitigate that problem much.
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If a college degree isn't providing skills valuable for a particular job, then it should be devalued.
 
Trump University
 
Taylor said:
If a college degree isn't providing skills valuable for a particular job, then it should be devalued.
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Anti intellectualism. All degrees provide valuable job skills and there are jobs for every degree.
 
The under educated make up a substantial part of his base, so it's not really surprising.
 
BlueTex said:
Do you prefer your doctors without degrees?
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Completely irrelevant as long as they go to medical school. I could care less what college degree my doctor had.
 
ecofarm said:
Anti intellectualism. All degrees provide valuable job skills and there are jobs for every degree.
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How is a degree in drama or film video valuable outside of those two specific fields?
 
Aletheia said:
Original source: USA today. Trump signs order prioritizing job skills over college degree in government hiring

Basically, a slap in the face to anyone that worked hard and invested in a college degree. Trump supports who you know over what you know... now we all have to follow that.

“This will ensure that we’re able to hire based on talent and expand our universe to qualified candidates and ensure a more equitable hiring process,” Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and senior advisor, told reporters on Friday."

Anyone see the irony there?
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another bone for the unwashed in the country
 
ecofarm said:
Anti intellectualism. All degrees provide valuable job skills and there are jobs for every degree.
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On the job experience is a better predictor of success.
 
Aletheia said:
It also prioritizes those who have sat around for years with less skills and knowledge to be hired before a college graduate, dis-incentivizing getting a college degree. It puts a priority on nepotism and who you know over hard work and years of investing in education. The overall effect is regressive and decreases competency and progress. Anyone could look at Covid-19 results vs. the rest of the world, and see that something is terribly wrong with the results of the wealthiest nation. I don't think this step will mitigate that problem much.
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You seemed to have equated getting years of experience writing computer code with having been sitting around.
 
Aletheia said:
Original source: USA today. Trump signs order prioritizing job skills over college degree in government hiring

Basically, a slap in the face to anyone that worked hard and invested in a college degree. Trump supports who you know over what you know... now we all have to follow that.

“This will ensure that we’re able to hire based on talent and expand our universe to qualified candidates and ensure a more equitable hiring process,” Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and senior advisor, told reporters on Friday."

Anyone see the irony there?
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He is playing to his know-nothing rubes. Typical ploy to please the stupid.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
In some cases it certainly makes sense. Why not hire someone who has years of experience writing computer code (but lacks a college degree) over someone without that coding experience but who has a college degree in music (for a government job writing code)?
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Because college grads are fresh meat willing to work for much less. Truth is, there should be no preference between experience and degree if your only criteria is someone who can do the job without regard for how much they cost.
 
Aletheia said:
Original source: USA today. Trump signs order prioritizing job skills over college degree in government hiring

Basically, a slap in the face to anyone that worked hard and invested in a college degree. Trump supports who you know over what you know... now we all have to follow that.

“This will ensure that we’re able to hire based on talent and expand our universe to qualified candidates and ensure a more equitable hiring process,” Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and senior advisor, told reporters on Friday."

Anyone see the irony there?
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You're slapping the face of everyone who obtaines skills.

Acquiring skills it's not based on who you know, it's based on effort. Skills are more valuable than education. A heart surgeon who's been developing and skill for 20 years it's probably a more skilled heart surgeon then the one that just graduated medical school.

So you're slapping them in the face when you suggest that their skills were not acquired through hard work but instead are just something they are granted based on who they know which doesn't make sense.
 
Aletheia said:
Original source: USA today. Trump signs order prioritizing job skills over college degree in government hiring

Basically, a slap in the face to anyone that worked hard and invested in a college degree. Trump supports who you know over what you know... now we all have to follow that.

“This will ensure that we’re able to hire based on talent and expand our universe to qualified candidates and ensure a more equitable hiring process,” Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and senior advisor, told reporters on Friday."

Anyone see the irony there?
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I don't necessarily disagree with this. First, how does it support 'who knows who'? Nothing in that report says that. Second, they are not eliminating the need for a college degree for all positions.
If two thirds of Americans do not have a degree, isn't that a good things then? Supposedly the majority of people who can't go to college are minorities, right? That's what we are usually being told. So I would think this would be a good thing. It's gives those without a degree, but have the skills needed, an opportunity.

A college degree isn't the end all and is certainly not for everyone.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
You seemed to have equated getting years of experience writing computer code with having been sitting around.
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This new system makes the hiring process far more subjective, and thus subject to things like rewarding nepotism and politics. The hard working guy who has years of experience writing computer code will get shown the door for a much cheaper hire without much qualifications or skills, other than having friends in the hiring team. The aggregate performance will go down not up.

Government jobs have historically provided all kinds of subsidized college incentives for those who work hard and are hungry to upgrade their skill-sets. Wouldn't be surprised to see those get thrown out under the new right agenda, either.
 
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