Trump says he's sending federal assistance to address Wisconsin protests

[EMNofSeattle]

This in your opinion is a good thing?

If the cops will not put down violent riots and arrest and put rioters in prison then it’s the only other option

I would rather the cops and national guard kettle the rioters, gas them into surrender, and then charge them with felonies, if that won’t happen there might be imperfect solutions

 

[Tangmo]

Or the Dept of Justice needs to arrest public officials and figures who denigrate police before investigations are complete

FBI needs to arrest public officials such as Buffalo Bob Barr who create then dictate the outcome of investigations that are underway and that target political enemies to be locked up.

 

[Linc]

A governor has more latitude implementing martial law than the potus does.

This governor needs to order martial law wherever an armed vigilante group is gathered so the NG can shoot on sight armed civilian gunmen. Ask questions later if there's anybody left to answer 'em.

Put a stop to these armed fascists running around at will and shooting citizens who are not equally armed, ie, without firearms. Have the armed fascists be confronted by the NG and dealt with appropriately and as the emergency requires to restore the safety of unarmed citizens.

Trump is willing to do anything in the next ten weeks to destroy this Nation.

 

[Tangmo]

If the cops will not put down violent riots and arrest and put rioters in prison then it’s the only other option

I would rather the cops and national guard kettle the rioters, gas them into surrender, and then charge them with felonies, if that won’t happen there might be imperfect solutions

Martial law needs to be ordered by the elected governor so the NG can shoot on sight any armed civilian vigilantes and thus remove the immediate, clear and present threat to the life of any citizen who is not equally armed, ie, without a firearm, which would be everyone else or virtually everyone else.

 

[Tangmo]

Trump is willing to do anything in the next ten weeks to destroy this Nation.

Correct.

Armed vigilante groups are at the core of it along with certain federal flatfoot cops.

A governor has the state and federal constitution, martial law authority and the National Guard to control anarchy, nihilism, insurrection. Governors in the states Trump is targeting need to use the authority to establish an enforced peace from armed fascist vigilante mobs against the mass of citizens who are not equally armed, or not armed at all. It is the obligation of the state to do this.

 

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[EMNofSeattle]

Martial law needs to be ordered by the elected governor so the NG can shoot on sight any armed civilian vigilantes and thus remove the immediate, clear and present threat to the life of any citizen who is not equally armed, ie, without a firearm, which would be everyone else or virtually everyone else.

Yeah starting a civil war with the right would be a mistake.

 

[PNW Guy]

Yeah starting a civil war with the right would be a mistake.

And this would be because?

How would stopping vigilantes be "starting a civil war"? Vigilantes are criminals, no less than rioters.

Interesting, Boogaloo Bois, are a right wing organization and they''re the only ones advocating for a civil war, why would you assume someone else would start this civil war?

 

[PNW Guy]

Yeah starting a civil war with the right would be a mistake.

Also, I find it curious you said nothing about the very fine "proud boy" aquaintance of mine who was recently arrested, probably for good. Do you approve of proud boys manufacturing meth and owning hand grenades?

 

[Tangmo]

Yeah starting a civil war with the right would be a mistake.

Armed right vigilante groups throughout the country taking armed action to include discharging their weapons against unarmed civilians and their communities removes politics from the equation.

The active duty military armed forces stay out of politics and bend over to avoid the appearance of political activity, involvement, favoritism.

Armed right vigilante groups are not about politics however, political favoritism or taking a political side. Armed vigilante groups acting against unarmed citizens and civilian communities is strictly about violence, anarchy, nihilism, rebellion, insurrection and therefore must and will be suppressed by the armed forces and their commanders without hesitation or any questions, doubts, reticence.

Whether in a single state, several states or nationally in pockets of many states, it will be overwith and ended quickly and decisively by the active duty armed forces. One can only hope Trump does try to stand in the way of it then and there because he will be gone too. No single official of the government or the society is above the Law of the Land, the Constitution and the oath takers in the uniform(s) of the United States are absolute about it.

You are taking it beyond politics and political favoritism to law and order, national security, global stability, which puts it into the realm of the armed forces and their commanders civilian and military, under the Constitution. Indeed, there will be no Reichstag burning in the United States.

 

[Ikari]

So what?

If violent rioters obeyed curfew they’d be alive.

You are expressing very unintelligent thought

If the cross-state kid with murderous intentions would have obeyed curfew, they'd be alive too

Y'all tend to go a long way to excuse murder.

 

[SCrider]

Even if that were fully true in context so what?

The far left is evil, the proud boys are not. There is no equivelance

You must live in bizarro world if you think the Proud Boys are not evil.

 

[SCrider]

The violence has already been incited. The left wing is 100% to blame. There is no moral equivalency right is right and left is wrong. Destroying property is wrong, failing to obey the police is wrong.And if violence and disorder by leftist continues there will be further reactionary violence by the right and it will be 100% justified until you disengage and back down

So RW vigilantism is cool?

 

[Mason66]

Trump says he's sending federal assistance to address Wisconsin protests | TheHill

It doesn't say it here, but I read elsewhere the number of National Guardsmen that are being deployed is around 1500.

Why do you have Trump in the title but then in the OP it says the governor deployed the National Guard?

Isn't "Federal Assistence" already there?

 

[EMNofSeattle]

So RW vigilantism is cool?

It’s not cool but it should be ok if the cops are not actively putting the rioters under the boot

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Why do you have Trump in the title but then in the OP it says the governor deployed the National Guard?

Isn't "Federal Assistence" already there?

The Governor deployed only a third of the Guardsmen requested by the local police and refused federal offers of 500 more Guardsmen

 

[SCrider]

It’s not cool but it should be ok if the cops are not actively putting the rioters under the boot

No, that's not ok at all.

 

[Slartibartfast]

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Trump says he's sending federal assistance to address Wisconsin protests | TheHill

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Let's hope the Trump admin is able to restrain itself from the types of atrocities that they performed when there were protests around the white house, but if I were a betting man, I would bet on another PR nightmare for their law and order campaign.

 

[VySky]

Well after that wackjob starting shooting people in the street last night, they're probably going to need them cause this thing might just be getting worse.

The spark will just fly somewhere else and light