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Trump says he is suing Twitter, Facebook, Google and CEOs Dorsey, Zuckerberg, Pichai

Carl Young said:
That's because you've lived under The First Amendment, which social media can now ignore. They can control public opinion and are doing so.
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The first amendment applies to the GOVERNMENT, not businesses..... Business has ALWAYS had the freedom to ignore the first amendment, it doesn't apply to them...
 
I can feel the free market oozing from this filing.
 
BlueTex said:
Not so much a capitalist?
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As far as I know, capitalism is about consumer choice. This is not consumer choice, this is producer choice.
 
Syamsu said:
As far as I know, capitalism is about consumer choice. This is not consumer choice, this is producer choice.
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Are you forced to read twitter or facebook?
 
BlueTex said:
In the category of stupidest lawsuits, the former president goes all in and is suing facebook, google and twitter for... get this... violations of the 1st amendment... LMAO...



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Trump sues Twitter, Facebook, Google – and immediately begins fundraising off the effort

Trump, who has a history of not following through on legal threats, announced the legal action against Facebook, Twitter and Google from his club in New Jersey.
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He'll have trouble finding a sane, good lawyer- word in the Country Clubs is tRump doesn't pay his bills.... ✌️
 
BlueTex said:
Are you forced to read twitter or facebook?
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No. But these things like monopoly, and lack of transparancy, do not provide for consumer choice. If you don't know what they are doing, you don't really know what you are getting yourselves into.
 
Syamsu said:
What a sick bunch of manipulators.
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:rolleyes:

Moderating websites is absolutely critical to a functional social media site. Any site without moderation immediately turns in to a sewer of porn and white supremacy like 8chan -- as right-wing social sites like "GETTR" quickly find out.
 
Syamsu said:
No. But these things like monopoly, and lack of transparancy, do not provide for consumer choice. If you don't know what they are doing, you don't really know what you are getting yourselves into.
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What product are you buying from twitter or facebook? Can't remember who, but one of our members describes the relationship perfectly... YOU are the product... What they sell is ADVERTISING...
 
Syamsu said:
As far as I know, capitalism is about consumer choice. This is not consumer choice, this is producer choice.
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You are free to stop using Facebook and go to MySpace.
 
Visbek said:
:rolleyes:

Moderating websites is absolutely critical to a functional social media site. Any site without moderation immediately turns in to a sewer of porn and white supremacy like 8chan -- as right-wing social sites like "GETTR" quickly find out.
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So what you are saying is, everyone would be a racist on facebook, except for that facebook forbids it. Makes no sense. There would just be some racists.
 
Syamsu said:
What a sick bunch of manipulators. There must be something wrong with you, when you sit there behind your desk, and decide for a billion people, what they can and cannot say. Imagine the arrogance of doing that. Totally sick.

At the least the government must force transparancy on big tech of their censorship. Also, government cannot use censorship companies for government business. Government also cannot provide tax breaks for censorship companies, like Amazon.
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You do know that the GOVERNMENT “forcing transparency” on capitalist organizations would be the equivalent of CENSORSHIP, right, i.e., telling them what they MUST allow in print. That would be a HUGE blow to the First Amendment. Is that really what you want?
 
BlueTex said:
The first amendment applies to the GOVERNMENT, not businesses..... Business has ALWAYS had the freedom to ignore the first amendment, it doesn't apply to them...
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Actually, they are not ignoring the First Amendent so much as they are practicing it. They have the First Amendment right to print or NOT print anything they want. Do these right wingers really want the government to interfere in that???????
 
Syamsu said:
So what you are saying is, everyone would be a racist on facebook, except for that facebook forbids it. Makes no sense. There would just be some racists.
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:rolleyes:

No, I'm saying that sites which do not moderate turn into shit, and are overwhelmed by all sorts of unacceptable content. We've seen this over and over and over.
 
watsup said:
You do know that the GOVERNMENT “forcing transparency” on capitalist organizations would be the equivalent of CENSORSHIP, right, i.e., telling them what they MUST allow in print. That would be a HUGE blow to the First Amendment. Is that really what you want?
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How is censorship the same as forced disclosure? You are just stretching the meaning of the word censorship, making it meaningless.

Big Tech forced to disclose who they are censoring, is somewhat similar to scientists being forced to disclose possible conflicting interests. Is that censorship of scientists?
 
Syamsu said:
As far as I know, capitalism is about consumer choice. This is not consumer choice, this is producer choice.
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You are actually wrong here. Capitalism is not about consumer choice at all. Otherwise there would be a requirement to have multiple choices for every possible business in every town to city in America.
 
Syamsu said:
How is censorship the same as forced disclosure? You are just stretching the meaning of the word censorship, making it meaningless.

Big Tech forced to disclose who they are censoring, is somewhat similar to scientists being forced to disclose possible conflicting interests. Is that censorship of scientists?
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They do tell you who they are banning or temporarily suspending, those who break their rules.
 
Syamsu said:
How is censorship the same as forced disclosure? You are just stretching the meaning of the word censorship, making it meaningless.

Big Tech forced to disclose who they are censoring, is somewhat similar to scientists being forced to disclose possible conflicting interests. Is that censorship of scientists?
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lol... What nonsense is this?

Scientists are not required by law to disclose conflicts of interest. It's a professional and private obligation, not a legal one. And no, it has nothing to do with social media companies disclosing "who they are censoring." Half the time, they don't even know the person's real identity anyway.
 
Syamsu said:
How is censorship the same as forced disclosure? You are just stretching the meaning of the word censorship, making it meaningless.

Big Tech forced to disclose who they are censoring, is somewhat similar to scientists being forced to disclose possible conflicting interests. Is that censorship of scientists?
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When scientists disclose possible conflicts of interest they do it as a CONDITION of a publication or funding request. Any scientists is free to publish on their newsletter or website without disclosing a damn thing...
 
BlueTex said:
He already found a bunch who can take time away from their personal injury practice... :)

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I guess lots of ambulances will not be followed.... ;)

They got to be doing it pro-bono for exposure, they should know they aren't getting even enough to cover their stay at Motel 6..... ✌️
 
Syamsu said:
How is censorship the same as forced disclosure? You are just stretching the meaning of the word censorship, making it meaningless.

Big Tech forced to disclose who they are censoring, is somewhat similar to scientists being forced to disclose possible conflicting interests. Is that censorship of scientists?
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How FORCED disclosure by the GOVERNMENT not to be considered as an illegal affront to the Constitution? Do you really want the government to be in the business of telling the media what they can and can't do? Sounds quite Communistic to me.
 
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