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Trump says Department of Education will investigate use of 1619 Project in schools

You support Presidential influence on school curricula?

I don't know about Canada, but our country has a Dept. of Education, and Federal tax dollars are allocated to support public education. That is in addition to local tax dollars. It also provides educational guidelines to qualify for allocations.

So yeah, I believe the President and the Dept. of Education have some say in how tax dollars can be distributed based on how they will be used to fund educational programs.

If we had school systems teaching something like "National Socialism was a Good Thing for Everyone," would you also be arguing against such government reaction?
 
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Well Tex, we wouldn't even be having this discussion if it wasn't for the 1619 project no?

BS... Why is it only this curriculum that the president of the United States felt necessary to tweet about this morning? Did OANN or Fox News run a story on it?
 
Does the president have the power to withhold funding because he doesn't approve of the curriculum?

Is he not just calling for an investigation?
 
Is he not just calling for an investigation?


What the hell would they investigate? Good lord.... Are they going to investigate algebra teaching methods next?
 
BS... Why is it only this curriculum that the president of the United States felt necessary to tweet about this morning? Did OANN or Fox News run a story on it?

BS... Why is it only this topic that the president of the United States felt necessary to tweet about this morning?

Because it's time?

There was a time we landed on the moon


there was a time WWII started etc....
 
Nice job of poo pooing the 1619 project

(thumbs up)

I don't even know what it is but off the top of my head, there's just a handful of other countries that allow the head of state to decide what is and what Isn't taught in schools. Guess which countries.
 
I don't know about Canada, but our country has a Dept. of Education, and Federal tax dollars are allocated to support public education. That is in addition to local tax dollars. It also provides educational guidelines.

So yeah, I believe the President and the Dept. of Education have some say in how tax dollars can be distributed based on how they will be used to fund educational programs.

If we had school systems teaching something like "National Socialism was a Good Thing for Everyone," would you also be arguing against such government reaction?

Cite the federal law that gives the president power to review curriculum and withhold funding.
 
You've seen his supporters. They'll love this. Anything to protect racism and its "very fine people".

They want the Cliven Bundy history movement.

 
Because it's time?

There was a time we landed on the moon


there was a time WWII started etc....

LMAO... I think it's BRILLIANT timing...
 
What the hell would they investigate? Good lord.... Are they going to investigate algebra teaching methods next?

Nice deflection Tex
 
The Democrats here seem very confused. Some have no idea what the 1619 Project is even about. Others are arguing over whether the President of our nation should have a say in how our tax payer dollars are being spent in the education department. What's going on around here?
 
I don't know about Canada, but our country has a Dept. of Education, and Federal tax dollars are allocated to support public education. That is in addition to local tax dollars. It also provides educational guidelines to qualify for allocations.

So yeah, I believe the President and the Dept. of Education have some say in how tax dollars can be distributed based on how they will be used to fund educational programs.

If we had school systems teaching something like "National Socialism was a Good Thing for Everyone," would you also be arguing against such government reaction?

Reductio ad absurdum.
How about this- school history teachers need to have a day to explain how the authors of the constitution would react if it was suggested to them that the President have a say about what is taught in schools.
 
Fascism in action. Next there'll be an office with a department nameplate on the door and staffed by people whose job it is to monitor school curricula for "un-American" content.

Curriculum has always been selected by local and state school boards. The 1619 Project adds another dimension to colonial history, and there's nothing wrong with that. The more we know, the better. Trump has no say in this--typical hot air from this guy, whose supporters will love it and not realize it's an empty promise.

Banning racial sensitivity training he CAN do, and it's a pretty stupid move if he wants to keep all those conservative blacks people keep talking about. It couldn't be any more diametrically opposite the direction of every government and law enforcement official in the country. What is WRONG with this guy?
 
Presidential candidate? He is the current PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. Four years later and you still can't come to terms that Trumps is OUR president.

And I do love and appreciate President Trump because he is often correct on MANY issues. This is just another example. The "1619 project" is a leftist indoctrination tool that should not be used for educational purposes. The American people deserve to know what is being taught in our tax payer funded schools.

Actually I agree in calling President Trump a candidate. He is the sitting President. However his term is coming to an end. He is running for a second term. Hence he is a candidate. Why else did he have to accept the republican nomination as candidate for President for the 2020 election?
 
The Democrats here seem very confused. Some have no idea what the 1619 Project is even about. Others are arguing over whether the President of our nation should have a say in how our tax payer dollars are being spent in the education department. What's going on around here?

In case you are confused... the president has been granted no power by congress to review curriculum and withhold federal funding from schools because of that curriculum. Had that been the case, President Obama for instance, might have stepped into the Texas school curriculum back in 2010... He didn't because THERE IS NO FEDERAL LAW giving him that power.

During the monthslong process of creating the guidelines, conservatives successfully strengthened the requirements on teaching the Judeo-Christian influences of the nation's Founding Fathers and attempted to water down rationale for the separation of church and state.

The standards will refer to the U.S. government as a "constitutional republic," rather than "democratic," and students will be required to study the decline in the value of the U.S. dollar, including the abandonment of the gold standard.

Conservatives say the Texas history curriculum has been unfairly skewed to the left after years of Democrats controlling the board.

Educators have blasted the proposed curriculum for politicizing education. Teachers also have said the document is too long and will force students to memorize lists of names rather than thinking critically.

Texas Board of Education Adopts Controversial Curriculum - WSJ
 
Cite the federal law that gives the president power to review curriculum and withhold funding.

Perhaps this?:

Uniform Administrative Requirements, Cost Principles, and Audit Requirements for Federal Awards

Technical Assistance for ED Grantees.

Uniform Administrative Requirements, Cost Principles, and Audit Requirements for Federal Awards | U.S. Department of Education

§200.300 Statutory and national policy requirements.
(a) The Federal awarding agency must manage and administer the Federal award in a manner so as to ensure that Federal funding is expended and associated programs are implemented in full accordance with U.S. statutory and public policy requirements: including, but not limited to, those protecting public welfare, the environment, and prohibiting discrimination. The Federal awarding agency must communicate to the non-Federal entity all relevant public policy requirements, including those in general appropriations provisions, and incorporate them either directly or by reference in the terms and conditions of the Federal award.

(b) The non-Federal entity is responsible for complying with all requirements of the Federal award. For all Federal awards, this includes the provisions of FFATA, which includes requirements on executive compensation, and also requirements implementing the Act for the non-Federal entity at 2 CFR part 25 Financial Assistance Use of Universal Identifier and System for Award Management and 2 CFR part 170 Reporting Subaward and Executive Compensation Information. See also statutory requirements for whistleblower protections at 10 U.S.C. 2409, 41 U.S.C. 4712, and 10 U.S.C. 2324, 41 U.S.C. 4304 and 4310.
Electronic Code of Federal Regulations (eCFR)

If you don't believe there are strings, conditions, requirements, etc. that can be placed on Federal financial aid, grants, allocations, or other awards? I believe you need to rethink that idea.
 
Grand Mai, I think your confused here and I want to help you. Our US presidents job (whether Republican or Democrat) is to decide how our tax payer dollars are spent. Decisions on how education is funded is not made by school administrators or faculty and staff. The decisions are made by our tax payer voters. That's why President Trump was allowed through law to choose the Secretary of Education.

What can I do to get you to understand that decisions are inherently made through the tax payer voting public? If Biden were to win, he would then get to decide on school decisions. And the result will be a further pulling out of students from public schools.
 
Grand Mai, I think your confused here and I want to help you. Our US presidents job (whether Republican or Democrat) is to decide how our tax payer dollars are spent. Decisions on how education is funded is not made by school administrators or faculty and staff. The decisions are made by our tax payer voters. That's why President Trump was allowed through law to choose the Secretary of Education.

What can I do to get you to understand that decisions are inherently made through the tax payer voting public? If Biden were to win, he would then get to decide on school decisions. And the result will be a further pulling out of students from public schools.

You have no idea how schools are funded.. Federal funds represent and small portion of school funding...
 
Reductio ad absurdum.
How about this- school history teachers need to have a day to explain how the authors of the constitution would react if it was suggested to them that the President have a say about what is taught in schools.

How about this - school teachers have LITTLE to say about what they are supposed to be teaching in schools. Unless things have changed drastically over the years since I taught High School, there is an established curriculum teachers are supposed to follow.

There is some leeway in how it can be presented, but if in a PUBLIC SCHOOL one is supposed to be teaching, oh...let's say "Life Science," then it is not supposed to be a platform for that teacher to be peddling "creationism."

Like my prior example, which you refused to acknowledge, would you object to the President condemning/opposing the teaching of "Nazism is a good thing" in public schools funded with Federal money?
 
I support this.

Interpretation is the correct word.

The 1619 Project is pure Leftist B.S., on a par with that recent Smithsonian Museum of African American History's publication of "Whiteness."

It should NOT be taught in any public schools as "history."

What private schools want to teach is their business, but using American tax dollars to undermine America? Unacceptable.

How does it undermine America to tell the whole story?

Have you seen the materials in the project? It's written for high school and college. Google 1619 Project and look at some of it. When I was in high school we read BOTH the Biography of MLK, Jr. and the Autobiography of Malcolm X. To broaden your views by hearing other viewpoints doesn't hurt a thing.
 
Banning racial sensitivity training

"Racial Sensitivity Training" is a bunch of crap and you know it.

Can you imagine a conversation like this ...

Person A : "Hey where are you running off to?

Person B : "I'm late for a mandatory Racial Sensitivity Training class".


Like as if we all reside in a racist nation that needs immediate forced cleansing .... Oh, the world that we live in (slaps forehead).
 
it doesn't matter. Trump is temporary.
 
The President vetting school curricula is the topic.
Those high-school history teachers need to include a day on the topic of how the framers of the government and authors of the constitution would react if it was suggested to them that the President ought to have that power.

Hear hear!
 
"Racial Sensitivity Training" is a bunch of crap and you know it.

Can you imagine a conversation like this ...

Person A : "Hey where are you running off to?

Person B : "I'm late for a mandatory Racial Sensitivity Training class".


Like as if we all reside in a racist nation that needs immediate forced cleansing .... Oh, the world that we live in (slaps forehead).

When did racial sensitivity training begin?
 
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