Trump refuses to support Paul Ryan, John McCain in upcoming Republican primaries

[Crosscheck]

A vote for Trump is a vote for Putin.

 

[FluffyNinja]

Didn't Trump claim at one point that he was the candidate who could and would unite the Republican Party? So when is he going to get started on that? I don't get it?

 

[Excon]

I wonder what happens when Trump realizes he will crater badly in the election.

Primary voter turn out would be an indication that he will not crater badly.
Republican turnout being up.
Democrat turnout being down.

He's going to totally lose it and blame everyone around him.

"If"; No, he wont.
Like he is going to blame his Daughter and Sons or his son-in-law?

It could be hilarious.

His disruption of the establishment is already hilarious.

 

[Threegoofs]

He's not the leader of the party (Ryan).

Well, if you have to pick one guy, I don't know who else it would be...

 

[Ikari]

If trump costs the republicans the house and senate, I doubt he will be easy to forget.

He won't. Hillary is no grand prize. While I think America in general will stomach her over Trump, I don't think they'll give her a Dem Congress to work with.

We'll see though, those are just my opinions on the matter.

 

[Ikari]

Ah yes,

GOP amnesia, works for those years 2001-2008, and I thought an elephant never forgot

The Republocrat party always forgets that which causes it embarrassment.

 

[yankintx]

I look forwrd to the debates, if they actually happen

 

[tres borrachos]

I would love for Ryan to issue a polite version of, "Screw you, Trump. Not only do I NOT want your endorsement, I'm withdrawing mine."

Ryan's mistake was getting behind Trump in the first place. He said (correctly) that Trump's statements were racist, but that he was standing behind him anyway. Ryan should have publicly disavowed Trump months ago.

I remember when the Trumpettes, led by their prom queen candidate Sarah Palin, were on here and out there screaming for Pau Ryan's head when he was slow to endorse Trump. They were calling him a turncoat and a RINO and all that other ****. Now, when their leader decides he wants to be a turncoat, he's dreamy, he's awesome! They don't deserve it anyway! They're....bad!"

The Trump supporters make me sick.

 

[CanadaJohn]

Anyone remember 2012 and 2014, specifically, when many Democrats ran away from President Obama in order to secure reelection in their districts and states? I remember Claire McCaskell, as an example, was petrified that she'd be photographed in state with President Obama and conveniently was busy out of state whenever President Obama came by.

Only difference here is that President Obama had a level of self awareness and perhaps shame that allowed him to ignore the snubs and gracefully move on. Donald Trump has a total lack of self awareness, shame and grace, so of course he will lash out at those in his own party who want nothing to do with him as they seek reelection.

I think Obama has been a lousy President, but he's been a fine man - Donald Trump, in comparison, is a total disgrace.

 

[AliHajiSheik]

It used to be pretty common to not pick sides in a party primary campaign. If Trump does not support them should either Ryan or McCain win their primary, then that would be news.

Bernie clearly violated that because he had a legitimate ax to grind.

Can't we just keep beating on Trump for the dumb things he says and not the normal stuff?

 

[Conservative]

Definitely an unconventional campaign. When the GOP Candidate disses the main leaders of the party, things are getting worse, not better.

I wonder what happens when Trump realizes he will crater badly in the election. He's going to totally lose it and blame everyone around him.

It could be hilarious.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...49f028-58e9-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html

I find it quite interesting how many people call for change, don't like the direction of the country, the massive debt we have accumulated, the large numbers of people dependent on the taxpayers, the world less safe and on fire yet still supporting the same politicians over and over again expecting a different result. Trump has pissed off the establishment in both parties and that should make him fit to serve because the status quo isn't the answer and change is required. Only the status quo supports massive govt, negotiation from weakness, massive debt, open borders. It is time for a change and someone who will implement it

Anyone that believes Obama is competent in the position is part of the problem, same goes with McCain, Ryan, and the rest of the establishment candidates. Those that support a third party ought to be getting on board because Trump represents the change that the third party supporters want except of course if you are a socialist or communist

 

[radcen]

Ryan's mistake was getting behind Trump in the first place. He said (correctly) that Trump's statements were racist, but that he was standing behind him anyway. Ryan should have publicly disavowed Trump months ago.

I remember when the Trumpettes, led by their prom queen candidate Sarah Palin, were on here and out there screaming for Pau Ryan's head when he was slow to endorse Trump. They were calling him a turncoat and a RINO and all that other ****. Now, when their leader decides he wants to be a turncoat, he's dreamy, he's awesome! They don't deserve it anyway! They're....bad!"

The Trump supporters make me sick.

I *suspect* that Trump is merely being slow to endorse as a childish payback for Ryan being slow to endorse him, and that he eventually will... which really speaks volumes to Trump's man-child mentality.

I also heard some pundit (didn't catch who) yesterday on the radio that Ryan only endorsed Trump out of concern for party unity, no other reason, and if true that would have to be the absolute worst possible reason. Party above country and standards and ethics? Really?

 

[radcen]

Anyone remember 2012 and 2014, specifically, when many Democrats ran away from President Obama in order to secure reelection in their districts and states? I remember Claire McCaskell, as an example, was petrified that she'd be photographed in state with President Obama and conveniently was busy out of state whenever President Obama came by.

Only difference here is that President Obama had a level of self awareness and perhaps shame that allowed him to ignore the snubs and gracefully move on. Donald Trump has a total lack of self awareness, shame and grace, so of course he will lash out at those in his own party who want nothing to do with him as they seek reelection.

I think Obama has been a lousy President, but he's been a fine man - Donald Trump, in comparison, is a total disgrace.

I do remember that.

I have to grudgingly admit that Obama has been fairly decent the last 12-18 months. He's grown into the job. Too bad it too 6+ years to do it.

 

[Conservative]

Then you are talking about a portion of his base. I am talking about the majority of the base.

Would someone please explain to me the "base" of the Republican Party today? Seems that the base wants strong immigration policies, smaller central govt, a more reasonable budget reducing the massive debt, reigning in entitlements and dependence on the taxpayers, a fairer tax system, a govt. doing what it is supposed to do meaning PROVIDING for the common defense.

Is there anyone here who believes continual support for career politicians who have created the problems we have today is the answer to the base? It does appear that Einstein was right in defining many here, "doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results." How does electing Hillary or re-electing career politicians solve the problems this country faces with our economy and national security? Isn't it time for someone else to try and do what these people have failed to do?

 

[Conservative]

I do remember that.

I have to grudgingly admit that Obama has been fairly decent the last 12-18 months. He's grown into the job. Too bad it too 6+ years to do it.

What exactly has Obama done the last 12-18 months that shows he has "grown" into the job? You believe inserting himself into the Presidential campaign and calling Trump unfit is true leadership of all Americans? Do you think the current 1 trillion dollar deficit for 2016 is an improvement? It does seem that perception trumps reality in many people's world as they ignore the actual results and buys what they want to see

 

[FluffyNinja]

His disruption of the establishment is already hilarious.

That he's duped an army of angry, pathetic fools into voting against their own self-interests..........that's hilarious.

 

[Threegoofs]

That he's duped an army of angry, pathetic fools into voting against their own self-interests..........that's hilarious.

Thats the modus operandii of the GOP anyway, so theres nothing new here. He just found different angry,pathetic fools to graft on to the racist wing of the party.

 

[Excon]

That he's duped an army of angry, pathetic fools into voting against their own self-interests..........that's hilarious.

Oh look. More hilarity to go along with the disruption of the establishment.
He hasn't convinced anyone to vote against their interests, nor you the one who determines what another's persons interests are.

And you know this, how?

he didn't know what the nuclear triad was, nor that Russians had occupied Crimea since 2014. He admittedly "doesn't read much" and "advises himself" on most matters. How can one safely assume that he knows anything specific?

OY Vey!

It is pretty clear he knew what it was.

1. You do not want one if you do not know what it is.
2. While in Military Academies you learn of those who have received the award.​

But thank you for demonstrating the biased nonsense political hate motivates someone to engage in.
Bringing up issues irrelevant to whether he knew what the Purple heart was or not, is asinine.

Did the term "nuclear triad" exist when he went to the Military Academy school as the Purple Heart did?
I doubt you even heard of the term prior to it getting used with Trump.

And the Crimea bs is just that, a pushed false narrative of what he related. But of course you bought into it because of your dislike.

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Oscars have been put up for auction. The winning bidder may say he owns an Oscar. But they do not have an Oscar in the true sense that they won he award and were given it in the normal manner.

Same for Trump and this Purple Heart.

The man is a fraud and this is just one example.

The good news is that this is just another straw breaking the camels back.

Are you so biased and dishonest as to present that as being what Trump believes?
Never mind the question, I forgot who I was addressing.

Your position was, is, and continues to be lame.

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When he loses, it is highly probably it will be done by/through/while crashing and burning.

If he does, that is highly unlikely.
The Primary voter turn out was up for Republicans and down for Democrats.
That is more of an indication than push polling is.

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I see.
Your bias, as well as your refusal to elaborate on your previous nonsensical comment, is noted.

As for the image.
So you are telling us he loves you? Good for you. :thumbs:

 

[haymarket]

Your position was, is, and continues to be lame.

Lame would be continuing to defend this deceitful narcissist who is attempting to bully and insult his way into power. And that is what you are doing.

 

[NonoBadDog]

Would someone please explain to me the "base" of the Republican Party today? Seems that the base wants strong immigration policies, smaller central govt, a more reasonable budget reducing the massive debt, reigning in entitlements and dependence on the taxpayers, a fairer tax system, a govt. doing what it is supposed to do meaning PROVIDING for the common defense.

Is there anyone here who believes continual support for career politicians who have created the problems we have today is the answer to the base? It does appear that Einstein was right in defining many here, "doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results." How does electing Hillary or re-electing career politicians solve the problems this country faces with our economy and national security? Isn't it time for someone else to try and do what these people have failed to do?

You answered your own questions.

 

[cpwill]

Definitely an unconventional campaign. When the GOP Candidate disses the main leaders of the party, things are getting worse, not better.

I wonder what happens when Trump realizes he will crater badly in the election. He's going to totally lose it and blame everyone around him.

It could be hilarious.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...49f028-58e9-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html

Look at all the Unity!!!

 

[iguanaman]

Would someone please explain to me the "base" of the Republican Party today? Seems that the base wants strong immigration policies, smaller central govt, a more reasonable budget reducing the massive debt, reigning in entitlements and dependence on the taxpayers, a fairer tax system, a govt. doing what it is supposed to do meaning PROVIDING for the common defense.

Is there anyone here who believes continual support for career politicians who have created the problems we have today is the answer to the base? It does appear that Einstein was right in defining many here, "doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results." How does electing Hillary or re-electing career politicians solve the problems this country faces with our economy and national security? Isn't it time for someone else to try and do what these people have failed to do?

You might have a point except for the fact that the "someone else" is WORSE than the status quo. We are not a 3rd world country that can afford to play around with an incompetent nut case simply because we don't like where we are at the moment. All signs point to a disastrous outcome yet you want to give it a try? I think you are just grasping at straws while your party (and conservative ideology) goes down in flames.

 

[Excon]

Lame would be continuing to defend this deceitful narcissist who is attempting to bully and insult his way into power. And that is what you are doing.

Your biased convoluted opinion is noted.
Maybe you should try to stick to the topic and and acknowledge you were wrong instead of deflecting with your usual bs.

 

[Cardinal]

Definitely an unconventional campaign. When the GOP Candidate disses the main leaders of the party, things are getting worse, not better.

I wonder what happens when Trump realizes he will crater badly in the election. He's going to totally lose it and blame everyone around him.

It could be hilarious.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...49f028-58e9-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html

It does seem that Trump has stepped up his pace of "Fracture the Republican Party at any cost."

 

[CanadaJohn]

That he's duped an army of angry, pathetic fools into voting against their own self-interests..........that's hilarious.

The Democrats have done the exact same thing for decades. There's no other way to explain away the massive percentage of the black vote that continues to try to put Democrats in office with basically nothing in return. Hispanics, similarly. The only Presidents who've actually tried to do anything for Hispanics who've entered the US illegal have been Republicans. Firstly, Ronald Reagan, succeeded in authorizing the first waive of amnesties that have caused a lot of contention on the issue today because the Democrat controlled Congress reneged on their promise to improve border security, and secondly, George W. Bush, who tried to bring together the right and left to secure the border and establish a path to citizenship. GW didn't succeed, but at least he put forward a plan to do so. Bill Clinton did **** all in this regard and Barack Obama reneged on his promise to the Hispanic community in two Presidential runs. Obama had a perfect opportunity in his first two years in office to fulfil that promise and he did **** all, and Hispanics still overwhelmingly voted him back in on a renewed promise to put forward legislation.

Talk about angry, pathetic fools - jeez, that's the Democrat base of power.