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Trump pledges to make it easier for seasonal farmworkers to enter U.S.

sangha said:
no doubt. But I have little doubt some will overstay their work visas
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Probably. That can be solved with a real Everify that won't happen because industries don't want it to.
 
Helix said:
Probably. That can be solved with a real Everify that won't happen because industries don't want it to.
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Correct. Will never happen. Just notice how neither side in the shutdown is suggesting E-Verify, which just proves that the whole wall idea is just a political stunt
 
Well, Trump just said that because he was in front of farmers and needs their votes.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
You would do well to take Trump more seriously.

He leads a Rebellion.
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He's really just a crook who will be charged with tax evasion and money laundering.
 
CaughtInThe said:
He's really just a crook who will be charged with tax evasion and money laundering.
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And according to your story America is now such a **** hole Super Power that such a person can get elected #1 leader.

I encourage a ReThink.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
And according to your story America is now such a **** hole Super Power that such a person can get elected #1 leader.

I encourage a ReThink.
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America's is great. We actually hold crooks accountable when there is evidence that they broke laws. That's why the Feds and at least one state will charge Trump (and probably other Trump family members) with tax evasion and money laundering (at the least).

Law and Order.
 
CaughtInThe said:
America's is great. We actually hold crooks accountable when there is evidence that they broke laws. That's why the Feds and at least one state will charge Trump (and probably other Trump family members) with tax evasion and money laundering (at the least).

Law and Order.
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The problem with this plan is that we have full view of how corrupt, dishonest, and incompetent the Not Trump people are, and then too what a piece of **** our so-called justice system is.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The problem with this plan is that we have full view of how corrupt, dishonest, and incompetent the Not Trump people are, and then too what a piece of **** our so-called justice system is.
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it's not a "plan". it's American Justice (that happens each day in our country).

Law and Order
 
Does this fall under the heading of MAGA? Allowing certain industries to use cheap foreign labor? Why not just pay a decent living wage to americans to help these american farmers?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Yeah sure, he "says" stuff like this ALL the TIME and nothing ever comes of it because none of it ever reaches Congress.
For instance, last summer he "said" that he would expand the Veterans Caregiver Program to include ALL fully service connected disabled veterans regardless of when they served, thus family who are their full time caregivers would be eligible to receive a stipend.

It was all talk, nothing of the kind had been referred to either chamber in Congress. It was just a Trump "talking point" and nothing more. The Veterans Caregiver Program stipends remain exclusively available to full time family caregivers of 100% service connected disabled veterans who served on or after 9/11 only. And it looks like it will remain that way.
That piece of advice came to me directly from the PVA officer at the VA.

Trump promises all kinds of things, and it's all lies.
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Promises made, promises not kept.
 
CaughtInThe said:
it's not a "plan". it's American Justice (that happens each day in our country).

Law and Order
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A corrupt government running a crap justice system can not and does not provide justice.

The lack of justice is why Trump is here leading a Rebellion.
 
CaughtInThe said:
America's is great. We actually hold crooks accountable when there is evidence that they broke laws. That's why the Feds and at least one state will charge Trump (and probably other Trump family members) with tax evasion and money laundering (at the least).

Law and Order.
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You forgot fraud.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
A corrupt government running a crap justice system can not and does not provide justice.

The lack of justice is why Trump is here leading a Rebellion.
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that sounds like what mafia lawyers say when the feds or the states have the goods on their clients.
 
CaughtInThe said:
that sounds like what mafia lawyers say when the feds or the states have the goods on their clients.
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Sounds like what a citizen says when his government turns up incompetent, corrupt, dishonest, and abusive.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Sounds like what a citizen says when his government turns up incompetent, corrupt, dishonest, and abusive.
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you just did the mafia lawyer thing for a second time.

look, i get that you guys are having a hard time defending a dude who has been corrupt his whole like. most of us expect you guys to attack the police/detectives/investigators/judges/government. it's really the only option left.

Law and Order
 
CaughtInThe said:
you just did the mafia lawyer thing for a second time.

look, i get that you guys are having a hard time defending a dude who has been corrupt his whole like. most of us expect you guys to attack the police/detectives/investigators/judges/government. it's really the only option left.

Law and Order
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You need to investigate the charge that the system is crap, HONOR DEMANDS.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
You need to investigate the charge that the system is crap, HONOR DEMANDS.
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and for a third time you're doing what mafia lawyers do. attack the "system" to try to get a client off.

it's not stealth or anything. we all know what you guys are attempting to do.
 
sangha said:
Correct. Will never happen. Just notice how neither side in the shutdown is suggesting E-Verify, which just proves that the whole wall idea is just a political stunt
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if the job part is removed from the equation, the undocumented immigration problem would be reduced significantly. the only way to do that is to fine violators crushingly. as you said, neither side is promoting that, and are instead hyperfocusing on "solutions" that will do about jack **** to solve the problem. however, denying Trump and his cult the ego wall is still something worth supporting. if part of it ends up getting built as a compromise, i support tearing it down in a few years using fully pensioned public employee union labor.
 
Helix said:
if the job part is removed from the equation, the undocumented immigration problem would be reduced significantly. the only way to do that is to fine violators crushingly. as you said, neither side is promoting that, and are instead hyperfocusing on "solutions" that will do about jack **** to solve the problem. however, denying Trump and his cult the ego wall is still something worth supporting. if part of it ends up getting built as a compromise, i support tearing it down in a few years using fully pensioned public employee union labor.
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Mr. Trump has compromised by admitting that there is no need to build "The Wall" where "natural barriers" (like totally uncrossable rivers such as the Rio Grande) already exist.
 
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