Trump or Joe? Stop riots?

[dairyair]

Which would be the best at stopping the rioting, Trump or Joe?


Trump is "tough on crime" and has sworn to crush the rioters wherever they appear.

Joe can talk to them, get them to listen to reason and stop rioting.

Riots/protests been going on for months.
How has tough man tRUMP stopped them? There's becoming more and more of them with each passing shooting.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

ROTFLMAO:rofl

Who's presidency are all these riots and civil unrest occurring under?

 

[dairyair]

Those bad people are unable to reason.

That is why they are looting, committing arson, and murdering.

Yet, prior to police killings, none of that was happening.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Trump NEEDS the riots to win an election.

 

[Paradoxical]

What trump supporters are looking for is an increase in the national temperature so that social unrest increases. Trump delivers that social unrest in spades. Biden is boring, "though." He won't do anything to exacerbate social unrest, and that's no damn fun.

Crazy. Trump or conservatives aren't encouraging violence. BLM and Antifa and the Goebbelians are.

 

[Paradoxical]

Yes its our fault you lefties cant control yourselves.

That is in keeping with them always trying to say criminals had a bad childhood or there is white privilege or they were poor or they were...(fill in the blanks)

 

[btthegreat]

Which would be the best at stopping the rioting, Trump or Joe?


Trump is "tough on crime" and has sworn to crush the rioters wherever they appear.

Joe can talk to them, get them to listen to reason and stop rioting.

Its not about the federal govt doing much of anything. These are local issues with local policing agencies, and coming up with some structural reforms in the way police forces do what they do to protect people, while still allowing cities the protection and security of what police do well.

Its up to mayors, city councils, governors and state legislatures and county officials work with law enforcement and the minority community leaders, and come up with plans that will provide some confidence that this issue will be taken seriously.

As for the riots, remember a lot of young folks have nothing to do, no place to go, no other options and a lot of frustration in the middle of summer heat waves. Part of this is about a pandemic that has closed down all the alternatives. Normally riots like these dissipate when rioters have to choose between an 8 hour shift that covers the electric bill, or losing it to someone who is not protesting for the 12th day in a row. Or between getting a suspension from school, or studying and showing up for the midterm.

There are natural forces at work in any city besides a citation or pepper spray that work in favor of return to normalcy that simply aren't this time. It sure does not help that every week we end up with yet another controversial death at the hands of some cops, and another story of a young man dying with his back turned and twenty bullets being sprayed. It also does not help that media wants us all to take sides constantly and instantly based on politics, so they can feed the beast, and get payed for it.

 

[Xilnik]

I do not want police forces to hire people who would make good social workers. I want police forces to hire men who got into a lot of fights in high school. Those are the kind of men who I want to protect me from criminals.

Yes, police departments should hire the people who have repeatedly shown little restraint for violence. That is the best idea I have read yet.

:roll:

 

[Paradoxical]

Its not about the federal govt doing much of anything. These are local issues with local policing agencies, and coming up with some structural reforms in the way police forces do what they do to protect people, while still allowing cities the protection and security of what police do well.

Its up to mayors, city councils, governors and state legislatures and county officials work with law enforcement and the minority community leaders, and come up with plans that will provide some confidence that this issue will be taken seriously.

As for the riots, remember a lot of young folks have nothing to do, no place to go, no other options and a lot of frustration in the middle of summer heat waves. Part of this is about a pandemic that has closed down all the alternatives. Normally riots like these dissipate when rioters have to choose between an 8 hour shift that covers the electric bill, or losing it to someone who is not protesting for the 12th day in a row. Or between getting a suspension from school, or studying and showing up for the midterm.

There are natural forces at work in any city besides a citation or pepper spray that work in favor of return to normalcy that simply aren't this time. It sure does not help that every week we end up with yet another controversial death at the hands of some cops, and another story of a young man dying with his back turned and twenty bullets being sprayed. It also does not help that media wants us all to take sides constantly and instantly based on politics, so they can feed the beast, and get payed for it.

Aint it funny that these murders and rioting are ALL in cities that have been run by far left wing Democrats?

 

[upsideguy]

Which would be the best at stopping the rioting, Trump or Joe?


Trump is "tough on crime" and has sworn to crush the rioters wherever they appear.

Joe can talk to them, get them to listen to reason and stop rioting.

Until the grievances of the BLM movement are deliberately and actively addressed, the unrest in American streets is going to get worse. Trump currently has the bully pulpit to fix this, but does not have a clue how to.

The Republican party can not seem to grasp a problem. They just want to paint over it. That works for a short while, but the damage is even worse next time it emerges. This is a deep and complicated issue that is far above the intelligence, patience and political will of Republicans. They are in capable of fixing it.

Sorry, Biden/Harris are in the best position to lead toward the changes necessary to return tranquility to American cities.

The left won't let Trump stop the riots. In fact, the left won't let the left stop the riots.

Because stopping the riots solves nothing. Its white paint over cracks to the foundation. Its the foundation (the core issue) that needs to be repaired, and the Republicans lack the skill set and political will to make the repairs.

 

[rickc]

Which would be the best at stopping the rioting, Trump or Joe?


Trump is "tough on crime" and has sworn to crush the rioters wherever they appear.

Joe can talk to them, get them to listen to reason and stop rioting.

Trump is an avowed white racist

He has almost.created a race.war in America

How could he possibly stop it

 

[Aletheia]

We already know the answer to the poll. There is no forecasting necessary. Right now -- the riots continue -- Trump has failed to quell them. Easy to extrapolate that.

 

[btthegreat]

Aint it funny that these murders and rioting are ALL in cities that have been run by far left wing Democrats?

Riots do tend to happen in large scale urban areas. It really hard to get sufficient mass to attend a riot in a small town or in agriculural areas. Its also true that large urban areas tend to vote for democrats because republicans keep wanting to hand out killer guns like candy on Halloween night. Urban area voters don't want a ton of handguns in their streets.
As for 'murders' if you are talking about law enforcement killing people, they are not constrained by either party leadership or urban areas. Sheriff departments and smaller town have their share of shootings too.

 

[Paradoxical]

Riots do tend to happen in large scale urban areas. It really hard to get sufficient mass to attend a riot in a small town or in agriculural areas. Its also true that large urban areas tend to vote for democrats because republicans keep wanting to hand out killer guns like candy on Halloween night. Urban area voters don't want a ton of handguns in their streets.
As for 'murders' if you are talking about law enforcement killing people, they are not constrained by either party leadership or urban areas. Sheriff departments and smaller town have their share of shootings too.

I saw some Republicans on video in Chicago handing out guns.

 

[Quag]

And the left's solution is to let rioters be rioters.

It isnt a right left issue it is a moron vs reason issue and trump is the moron pouring fuel on the fire.

 

[Moderate Right]

I already said I'm ignoring your gas lighting. As you've demonstrated, you don't actually care about law and order.

LOL. With what's happening in Portland, surely you aren't saying that the left care about law and order. They are stepping back and letting the rioters riot. This, after chasing Trump's feds out.

 

[Moderate Right]

I don't know if there is a game plan at all. Obviously you don't want to inflame the situation, but also you cannot allow rioting and looting to go on unimpeded. People have just lost their ever loving minds in all of this and it only seems to be getting worse. The States and the Federal government need to come together to make a comprehensive plan that will help policing the situation without resorting to questionable tactics. We need messages of unity and calm, but we're not getting those either. I don't think anyone in charge is capable of being in charge at this moment.

Portland has all but given up and now let the rioters riot. This is the way the left handle law enforcement. Hell, they even ceded part of the city to have no law enforcement.

 

[Carleen]

Trump is an avowed white racist

He has almost.created a race.war in America

How could he possibly stop it

Trump is the president right now. This is his responsibility. Only he can fix it.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Joe can talk to them, get them to listen to reason and stop rioting.

What's he waiting for? Oh, right, they have to elect him first before he'll stop the riots.

Or in other words: Vote for me or your cities will continue burning.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Trump is an avowed white racist

He has almost.created a race.war in America

How could he possibly stop it

If anyone has "almost" started a race war, it's the people who are burning and looting.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Rioting is a symptom of the problem, but it is not THE problem. Rioting is not likely to stop until the real problems are impartially identified and addressed by professionals who are not motivated by partisan agendas.

It is my opinion that the real problems are complex and will require time and effort, planning, and commitment to resolve. Partisan "solutions" have been and will be useless and may be inflammatory.

 

[Cardinal]

LOL. With what's happening in Portland, surely you aren't saying that the left care about law and order. They are stepping back and letting the rioters riot. This, after chasing Trump's feds out.

And again, if you say you care about law order, then deal with the criminality in your own party. You're going to have to deal with trump's crimes of...

• Obstruction of justice
• profiting from the Presidency
• tax fraud
• soliciting foreign interference in US elections (three times now and counting)
• abuse of power
• refusing to grant asylum to all refugees and immigrants
• campaign finance fraud
• violations of the Hatch Act
• giving the order to gas nonviolent protesters

Again, I'm going to ignore your gas lighting.

 

[Carolina]

Well Trump is President now and the riots continue, so I think we know the answer is not Trump.

 

[ReubenSherr]

Which would be the best at stopping the rioting, Trump or Joe?


Trump is "tough on crime" and has sworn to crush the rioters wherever they appear.

Joe can talk to them, get them to listen to reason and stop rioting.

Joe's party CAUSED THE RIOTS!!!

Democrats need to own it!

And stop indirectly validating violent protestors, which is what the Democratic Party is doing. Starting with their four day "Rise Up" Marxist convention.

We don't placate violent rioters. And "talk them down." It's insane.

 

[noonereal]

Which would be the best at stopping the rioting, Trump or Joe?


Trump is "tough on crime" and has sworn to crush the rioters wherever they appear.

Joe can talk to them, get them to listen to reason and stop rioting.

Well, we know TRump, like with EVERYTHING, does nothing. That is a pretty low bar.