Trump moves to eliminate nearly all asylum claims at U.S. southern border

j-mac said:

Is there such a thing as "seeking better economic conditions" asylum eligible?

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TU Curmudgeon said:

Exactly how does "Eligible to Apply" come to mean the same as "Will be Granted"?

I know - because the fact that violating the laws of the United States of America in order to prohibit people from APPLYING (which the laws of the United States of America give them a right to do) is much to embarrassing to mention in polite company.

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trixare4kids said:

Nice try, but no.
Your source doesn't prove that Trump said, "seeking asylum is not legal."

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Napoleon said:

That right is connected to specific reasons. It makes no sense at all to bog down the immigration system with hordes of applicants who are not seeking asylum for an applicable reason. Economic migrants are not eligible for asylum here or anywhere else for that matter.

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MrWonka said:

That the reforms don't solve the original problem and in fact make the problem worse while wasting billions of dollars.

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TU Curmudgeon said:

As one of the leading supporters of an electoral system that is manipulated by small groups of people so that they can gain personal advantage regardless of the wishes or will of the electorate says when people suggest that the US should NOT have an electoral system that is manipulated by small groups of people so that they can gain personal advantage regardless of the wishes or will of the electorate - "If you don't like the law, then change the law.".

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TU Curmudgeon said:

From Reuters

Trump administration erects another barrier to immigrants seeking U.S. asylum
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NEW YORK/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Trump administration on Monday unveiled a new rule to bar almost all immigrants from applying for asylum at the southern border, requiring them to first pursue safe haven in a third country through which they had traveled on the way to the United States.

The Department of Homeland Security, in a statement issued with the Department of Justice, said the rule would set a “new bar” for immigrants “by placing further restrictions or limitations on eligibility for aliens who seek asylum in the United States.”

The American Civil Liberties Union called the new rule “patently unlawful” and vowed to file a lawsuit against it, while a host of experts also questioned its legality.

“The interim regulation violates the clear language of the law in several respects,” Stephen Legomsky, a former chief counsel of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, told Reuters in an email.

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Well, so much for international law, American law, and "The Rule of Law".

On the other hand, Mr. Trump's "base" will eat this up like Joey Chestnut eats hot dogs and that's all that counts as far as Mr. Trump is concerned.

PS - Expect the number of Republican Senators who speak out against this new order (and the consequential derogation of Congress' treaty approval power) to roughly equal the number of people you can comfortably seat in a "bargain airline" economy class international flight.
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Napoleon said:

The law doesn’t need to be changed. This is an administrative decision.

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calamity said:

CNN is not “far left.” So there is that. Fail.

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TU Curmudgeon said:

Exactly how does "Eligible to Apply" come to mean the same as "Will be Granted"?

I know - because the fact that violating the laws of the United States of America in order to prohibit people from APPLYING (which the laws of the United States of America give them a right to do) is much to embarrassing to mention in polite company.

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TU Curmudgeon said:

"The law" in the US at present is that "'politically gerrymandered electoral districts' are 100% acceptable in a country that claims to have free, fair, open, and honest elections".

That is a "judicial decision".

In order to change that "judicial decision" it is necessary to change the law (or the judiciary [and I much prefer the former to the latter {mainly because the people appointing the judiciary are the ones who WANT "'politically gerrymandered electoral districts' to be 100% acceptable in a country that claims to have free, fair, open, and honest elections"}]).

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Mexicans are deeply frustrated with immigrants after a year of heightened migration from Central America through the country, according to a survey conducted by The Washington Post and Mexico’s Reforma newspaper.

More than 6 in 10 Mexicans say migrants are a burden on their country because they take jobs and benefits that should belong to Mexicans. A 55 percent majority supports deporting migrants who travel through Mexico to reach the United States.

Those findings defy the perception that Mexico — a country that has sent millions of its own migrants to the United States, sending billions of dollars in remittances — is sympathetic to the surge of Central Americans. Instead, the data suggests Mexicans have turned against the migrants transiting through their own country, expressing antipathy that would be familiar to many supporters of President Trump north of the border.

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TU Curmudgeon said:

"The law" in the US at present is that "'politically gerrymandered electoral districts' are 100% acceptable in a country that claims to have free, fair, open, and honest elections".

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calamity said:

CNN is not “far left.” So there is that. Fail.

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calamity said:

CNN is not “far left.” So there is that. Fail.

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pamak said:

To some CNN is "far left" only because they are far alt-right.

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James972 said:

More importantly CNN on air folks describe themselves as far left and there is no reason to doubt them. If Sanders gets nomination they will support him despite his being an open communist. Do you understand??

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trixare4kids said:

Trump moves to eliminate nearly all asylum claims at U.S. southern border



In light of the Democrats dragging their feet on solutions that would fix immigration loophole in present law, what's a president to do?
The Democrats cannot complain about the crowded inhumane conditions in border detention camps and sit back and oppose reasonable checks that will preclude our system from staying overwhelmed. Kudos to the Trump administration for taking this necessary move.
Of course the shift will draw legal challenges but the new proposals are certainly worth the try to keep people from shattering our system.

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slick said:

Statesmen like performance by Trump as usual. Open Border democrats thought they had him checkmated but time & time again
he creates an opening. It has had to be embarrassing for the opposition to know that Mexico is doing far more in preventing illegal border
crossings than the Congress of the United States. His constantly successful end runs around the defenses of Pelosi & Schummer has
them & their underlings foaming at the mouth. Omar & AOC don't know who to call racist next, first they laballed Pelosi racist, then Trump
racist whose next, or better yet who cares!

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JMaximus said:

Mexico is in North America...

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Pound4abrown said:

Where does this number come from?

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sjmay said:

I just have a simple question, why aren't these "asylum" seekers, seeking asylum in Mexico?

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Acadia said:

Do you think some of the money is misappropriated?

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• $99/d/resident to "Charlie's Vegetable Supply Company" for produce and pays;
• $99/d/resident to "Charlie's Meat Supply Company for meat and pays;
• $99/d/resident to "Charlie's Rental Real Estate Company for the use of the land and buildings and pays;
• $99/d/resident to "Charlie's Laundry Service for laundry services and pays;
• $99/d/resident to "Charlie's Janitorial Service" for cleaning services and pays;
• $99/d/resident to "Charlie's Temporary Personnel Service" for staff and pays'
• $99/d/resident to "Charlie's Management and Accounting Service" for management and accounting services; then

dixon01767 said:

Read the article and 4 pages of comments and the many instances of claims that Trump is violating the law. Cant help but notice no one has pointed to ANY law that has been broken.

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