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Trump: Mattis out as Defense Secretary Jan. 1

It has been announced that Gen. Mattis will leave Jan 1 rather than February as he had announced.

https://abc7ny.com/politics/trump-mattis-out-as-defense-secretary-jan-1;-deputy-to-be-acting-chief/4954501/

Trump: Mattis out as Defense Secretary Jan. 1; deputy to be acting chief

WASHINGTON, D.C. --
President Donald Trump says Defense Secretary Jim Mattis will leave his post on Jan. 1. Trump announced Mattis' new departure date in a tweet, and said he's naming deputy defense chief Patrick Shanahan as acting secretary.

With Matthis stepping down, his letter eviscerated Trump and I hesitate to use the word policies.

Clear that someone explained in detail to Trump what Matthis letter explicitly stated

His Syrian withdrawal has been torn apart by both sides. A gift to Russia, Iran, Turkey and Assad
From Congress to the Pentagon, to State to Countries who are allied with the US. The uproar is growing.

The US was the original force behind building a coalition of countries, approx 79, to fight ISIS.

Anyone with a stem cell for a brain can see the regional and worldwide repercussions of the Syrian withdrawal.




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If he was a respectful man, he would have advised James Mattis ahead of the tweet, but as we know, he doesn't have any sort of reputation for being respectful to anyone. Case in point, Rex Tillerson.

Right, I’m going to assume Mattis learned of it the same way tillerson did. Honestly Mattis is probably relieved. I’m sure he wasn’t looking forward to staying until 2/28! Even though he offered to.


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I get that. But Mattis was willing to stay until 2/28. If trump appreciated him like he said he did, why not just let him stay on? Wouldn’t that make for a more smooth transition? Why rush him out? Again it makes no sense to me. No sense at all. What is the rush when Mattis is willing & able.


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I think that was based on how quick they would find a replacement. Looks like they found a new guy really quick.
 
Task Complete?......trump fired most before they accomplished anything, many were incompetent and unqualified from the start....yet trump still hired them.....Only the best....The whole thing is a fiasco

So you are saying Mattis was incompetent and unqualified. You have your answer why he is leaving Jan 1.
 
Once again for the one millionth time on DP Trump is bad, trump is petty, i don't like Trump....... Oh my? :peace

No one wants to fly in an airplane piloted by someone that can't fly a plane.

Trump is believed to be UNFIT to be President (not doing a bad job, but incompetent in the job) by 55% of America, every major newspaper and a growing list of former generals and secretaries of defense. Forgive us that we find that rather troubling.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2567
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...irms-it/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0e55f9d0a2bf
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/12/21/hagel-trump-unfit-cohen-tapper-lead-sot-vpx.cnn

yes, we knew this before. But, it seems even worse than we once thought.

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/2016/09/07/recommend-hillary-clinton-us-president
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/op...dorses-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/90728344/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-editorial-board-editorials-debates/91295020/
http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/editorial/2016/09/27/hillary-clinton-endorsement/91198668/

The problem is, he has almost no essential skills or experience for the job. He is an arrogant, ignorant, impulsive, thin-skinned, narcissistic man-child, devoid of empathy, a more compass and understanding of his own short-comings. Not too mention, as evidenced by his turnover and the number of his staffers that turned out to be corrupt, he can't manage.

While each of these is a personality weakness for the job, but his personality includes ALL of them, which makes him a grave threat to America.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/me-we/201703/why-i-think-donald-trump-is-unfit-be-president

Now, we understand there is a large contingent of Americans that lack the sophistication to understand what is happening here. But, when more than 1/2 the electorate thinks the POTUS is incompetent, we have a major problem. The fact that so many people the man not capable is a threat to American security home and abroad in its own right.

I agree with you that Trump is bad, but you don't seem to comprehend the problem, which is Trump is incompetent and thus unfit for the job. That is not just my opinion, its an opinion shared by MOST of America.

So, live up to your name: apply some common sense here. When more than 1/2 the country believes the President is unfit, its a problem even for those that don't feel that way.

So you are saying Mattis was incompetent and unqualified. You have your answer why he is leaving Jan 1.

You probably need to understand that "most" does not mean "all". The poster said "most" not "all"

Most of Trump's hires were incompetent and/or unqualified (not mention corrupt and even criminal), but NOT all of Trump's hires fit that description. He made a couple of good hires, but, since Trump is such a pathetic manager, Trump could not tolerate people more competent than he around him.
 
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So you are saying Mattis was incompetent and unqualified. You have your answer why he is leaving Jan 1.

I'm saying he wasn't allowed to complete his term.....You are correct most were unqualified idiots replaced with a new batch of unqualified idiots...You must be so proud...Only the best
 
Yep, arrogant little bastard can't handle criticism about his crumbling regime

Nearly 2 years into his Administration, Trump has yet to face a real crisis. Hope he does not, I am selfish that way, but if he does, expect him to screw the pooch
As they say Trump would F up the Lords Prayer
 
I think that was based on how quick they would find a replacement. Looks like they found a new guy really quick.

Yes, they did.


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I'm saying he wasn't allowed to complete his term.....You are correct most were unqualified idiots replaced with a new batch of unqualified idiots...You must be so proud...Only the best

Employees rarely get to dictate their own terms and how they will exit. This is a nothing burger with cheese.
 
No one wants to fly in an airplane piloted by someone that can't fly a plane.

Trump is believed to be UNFIT to be President (not doing a bad job, but incompetent in the job) by 55% of America, every major newspaper and a growing list of former generals and secretaries of defense. Forgive us that we find that rather troubling.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2567
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...irms-it/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0e55f9d0a2bf
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/12/21/hagel-trump-unfit-cohen-tapper-lead-sot-vpx.cnn

yes, we knew this before. But, it seems even worse than we once thought.

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/2016/09/07/recommend-hillary-clinton-us-president
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/op...dorses-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/90728344/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-editorial-board-editorials-debates/91295020/
http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/editorial/2016/09/27/hillary-clinton-endorsement/91198668/

The problem is, he has almost no essential skills or experience for the job. He is an arrogant, ignorant, impulsive, thin-skinned, narcissistic man-child, devoid of empathy, a more compass and understanding of his own short-comings. Not too mention, as evidenced by his turnover and the number of his staffers that turned out to be corrupt, he can't manage.

While each of these is a personality weakness for the job, but his personality includes ALL of them, which makes him a grave threat to America.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/me-we/201703/why-i-think-donald-trump-is-unfit-be-president

Now, we understand there is a large contingent of Americans that lack the sophistication to understand what is happening here. But, when more than 1/2 the electorate thinks the POTUS is incompetent, we have a major problem. The fact that so many people the man not capable is a threat to American security home and abroad in its own right.

Not just my opinion, its an opinion shared by MOST of America.

Please let the man in charge of holding the nuclear football hide it from trump for as long as he can.
 
Right, I’m going to assume Mattis learned of it the same way tillerson did. Honestly Mattis is probably relieved. I’m sure he wasn’t looking forward to staying until 2/28! Even though he offered to.


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I heard that James Mattis wanted to stay until February for a specific reason, that reason being the upcoming NATO summit in February. I think he wanted to stick around long enough to be able to reassure our NATO partners that the U.S. wouldn't abandon them, which I believe is too late for anyway.

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Nearly 2 years into his Administration, Trump has yet to face a real crisis. Hope he does not, I am selfish that way, but if he does, expect him to screw the pooch
As they say Trump would F up the Lords Prayer

Trump has yet to face a crisis. If you notice that any real crisis, such as this shutdown for instance, he has in fact been the architect of the crisis.
 
Trump has yet to face a crisis. If you notice that any real crisis, such as this shutdown for instance, he has in fact been the architect of the crisis.

True he has been one to create chaos, and if a crisis arises as past Presidents had suddenly appear on their plate, he will screw it up.

His undercutting of allied counties will have repercussions, negative around the world.

How will countries react when the US comes calling in the future? Who can trust the US under Trump?
 
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True he has been one to create chaos, and if a crisis arises as past Presidents had suddenly appear on their plate, he will screw it up.

His undercutting of allied counties will have repercussions, negative around the world.

How will countries react when the US comes calling in the future? Who can trust the US under Trump?

Even worse for the U.S. that he can't be trusted, he can easily be bought. All of this isn't even about being a liberal or a conservative anymore. This is about whether or not you're an American, and a defender of our liberties. If they finally reach the conclusion that his concrete and mortar border wall is nothing more than a pipe dream and they get over it, maybe then they will begin to focus on the meat and potatoes of what's going in inside this administration and realize they're losing their country too, not only us.
 
True he has been one to create chaos, and if a crisis arises as past Presidents had suddenly appear on their plate, he will screw it up.

His undercutting of allied counties will have repercussions, negative around the world.

How will countries react when the US comes calling in the future? Who can trust the US under Trump?

Since our allies are still greatly reliant on the military strength of the US, I think most would still answer the call. Those that have maintained their country’s defenses, anyways.
 
I agree completely with your first paragraph. As to the rest of the national security team, one can disagree with a decision and still do the job they were hired to do. We’ll see how it plays out in the near future.

Fair enough - I was more or less just commenting on how isolated Trump is here, versus those who advised him on these latest decisions. It's very odd not to have his top advisors and key members of Congress unable or unwilling to give a full-throated defense of the policy and that's been lacking from what I've seen. The support has all come from outside the WH.
 
Fair enough - I was more or less just commenting on how isolated Trump is here, versus those who advised him on these latest decisions. It's very odd not to have his top advisors and key members of Congress unable or unwilling to give a full-throated defense of the policy and that's been lacking from what I've seen. The support has all come from outside the WH.

It is odd, but maybe those involved don’t want to see their favorite restaurants boycotted and protested, or vandals to show up at their houses. Maybe they just prefer to keep a low profile. Or maybe they don’t agree and are keeping their heads down so they don’t get the axe.
 
If he was a respectful man, he would have advised James Mattis ahead of the tweet, but as we know, he doesn't have any sort of reputation for being respectful to anyone. Case in point, Rex Tillerson.

Update: Josh Dawsey: Trump hasn’t spoken to Mattis since Thursday. Pompeo called to tell him he was out in a week, per admin official.
 
Even worse for the U.S. that he can't be trusted, he can easily be bought. All of this isn't even about being a liberal or a conservative anymore. This is about whether or not you're an American, and a defender of our liberties. If they finally reach the conclusion that his concrete and mortar border wall is nothing more than a pipe dream and they get over it, maybe then they will begin to focus on the meat and potatoes of what's going in inside this administration and realize they're losing their country too, not only us.

Wonder when Rs in Congress, not all, but a good number will find their spines?
 
Since our allies are still greatly reliant on the military strength of the US, I think most would still answer the call. Those that have maintained their country’s defenses, anyways.

Not as many, Trump cannot be trusted to keep his word.
 
True he has been one to create chaos, and if a crisis arises as past Presidents had suddenly appear on their plate, he will screw it up.

His undercutting of allied counties will have repercussions, negative around the world.

How will countries react when the US comes calling in the future? Who can trust the US under Trump?

I presume, that unless another madman replaces him, the next president will spend a great deal of time mending fences with the other party, with other countries, with the world. Trump has erased almost all goodwill between America and the world (unless whatever shady personal business he has with Putin counts as 'goodwill') and it will be up to the next one to fix it. Whether that's a hypothetical President Pence this year, or a Democrat or Republican after 2020, it's going to be a helluva job.
 
Why not? Like I said, better transition. Trump seemed to be fine with it a few days ago, now he’s changing his tune. Wonder why.


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Someone drew him a picture of what the Mattis letter said..............kinda like this:

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