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Trump made the US smaller again, is Ukraine a consequence of that?

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That Donald Trump, despite his rhetoric, failed to "America Great Again", unfortunately did not end with his term.

Paradoxically, under Trump, the United States actually became "smaller." It became a United States that opted out of collaborations if they did not directly benefit their own short-term purposes. During Trump you left the Paris Agreement, terminated the nuclear agreement with Iran and - sometimes rightly - criticized a large number of international organizations, but all the time on your own without talking to allies and always happy to attack allies in the process. In Large questions as weel as in small ones. Trump even threatened, in an executive order, people that cooperated with the International Criminal Court (ICC) that they would have their assets in the United States frozen. And so on. The list goes on.

Donald Trump was also only primarily involved in international issues that directly affected the US and in many situations his international involvement was directly correlated to his personal exposure ,such as his attack on terrorism and dealings with North Korea. That along with the fact that he alienated (and in some cases "sold out") former allies led to a weakening of the US global position and as a consequence, the advancement of other major powers.

Trump is no longer president, but through his allegations of vote-rigging and his campaign to undermine democratic institutions, he has also weakened the US presidency, and security policy failures continue to be reflected in a geopolitical trend of a relative weakening of the United States.

Is the crisis in Ukraine a consequence, (or from Russia's perspective a possibility) of the international weakening of US influence? This also applies to the increasingly serious situation for Taiwan (and it would not surprise me if a Chinese attack is less than a year or two away.)
 

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The NATO countries miss all those free American dollars. Don't worry, Biden will print more for you.
The relative weakening of the United States? Hahahaha..I wonder whose fault that really is?
You Commies push more propaganda than Putin.
 

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The NATO countries missed all those free American dollars. Don't worry, Biden will print more for you.

Should we put a price on standing for our principles?
 

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Trump made the US smaller again, is Ukraine a consequence of that?​


Ukraine and much else that is fugged up is the consequence of the three worst Presidents of the Modern Era each one worse than his predecessor, Bush 43, Obama and finally Trump vying for and putting up a good argument for worst President all time.
 

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The NATO countries miss all those free American dollars. Don't worry, Biden will print more for you.
The relative weakening of the United States? Hahahaha..I wonder whose fault that really is?
You Commies push more propaganda than Putin.

I think your own stupid-ass words refute your own stupid-ass words perfectly. Here:

That OP is without question one of the stinkiest piles of BS I've read lately.

That's a far better description of your own posts than you know.

It's amazing that you actually believe you're kicking ass and taking names here. All you're doing is stumbling about spazzing out about commies under your bed. Post after post, and they're all too stupid for words.
 

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Why did Biden sign off on the Nord Stream pine? Why did Biden beg stinking Russia to produce more oil?

Because he's a damn idiot. Thanks for the $5 a gallon gas, Brandon.
 

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Why did Biden sign off on the Nord Stream pine? Why did Biden beg stinking Russia to produce more oil?

Because he's a damn idiot. Thanks for the $5 a gallon gas, Brandon.

So you're mad at Biden because of high oil prices AND because he asked oil producers to produce more oil so prices could come down.

:unsure:
 

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That Donald Trump, despite his rhetoric, failed to "America Great Again", unfortunately did not end with his term.

Paradoxically, under Trump, the United States actually became "smaller." It became a United States that opted out of collaborations if they did not directly benefit their own short-term purposes. During Trump you left the Paris Agreement, terminated the nuclear agreement with Iran and - sometimes rightly - criticized a large number of international organizations, but all the time on your own without talking to allies and always happy to attack allies in the process. In Large questions as weel as in small ones. Trump even threatened, in an executive order, people that cooperated with the International Criminal Court (ICC) that they would have their assets in the United States frozen. And so on. The list goes on.

Donald Trump was also only primarily involved in international issues that directly affected the US and in many situations his international involvement was directly correlated to his personal exposure ,such as his attack on terrorism and dealings with North Korea. That along with the fact that he alienated (and in some cases "sold out") former allies led to a weakening of the US global position and as a consequence, the advancement of other major powers.

Trump is no longer president, but through his allegations of vote-rigging and his campaign to undermine democratic institutions, he has also weakened the US presidency, and security policy failures continue to be reflected in a geopolitical trend of a relative weakening of the United States.

Is the crisis in Ukraine a consequence, (or from Russia's perspective a possibility) of the international weakening of US influence? This also applies to the increasingly serious situation for Taiwan (and it would not surprise me if a Chinese attack is less than a year or two away.)
The keep blaming trump narrative.
 

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That Donald Trump, despite his rhetoric, failed to "America Great Again", unfortunately did not end with his term.

Paradoxically, under Trump, the United States actually became "smaller." It became a United States that opted out of collaborations if they did not directly benefit their own short-term purposes. During Trump you left the Paris Agreement, terminated the nuclear agreement with Iran and - sometimes rightly - criticized a large number of international organizations, but all the time on your own without talking to allies and always happy to attack allies in the process. In Large questions as weel as in small ones. Trump even threatened, in an executive order, people that cooperated with the International Criminal Court (ICC) that they would have their assets in the United States frozen. And so on. The list goes on.

Donald Trump was also only primarily involved in international issues that directly affected the US and in many situations his international involvement was directly correlated to his personal exposure ,such as his attack on terrorism and dealings with North Korea. That along with the fact that he alienated (and in some cases "sold out") former allies led to a weakening of the US global position and as a consequence, the advancement of other major powers.

Trump is no longer president, but through his allegations of vote-rigging and his campaign to undermine democratic institutions, he has also weakened the US presidency, and security policy failures continue to be reflected in a geopolitical trend of a relative weakening of the United States.

Is the crisis in Ukraine a consequence, (or from Russia's perspective a possibility) of the international weakening of US influence? This also applies to the increasingly serious situation for Taiwan (and it would not surprise me if a Chinese attack is less than a year or two away.)

President Joe Biden’s prediction that Russia will invade Ukraine and his suggestion that the West’s response could be more muted for a “minor” incursion.

So now the minor incursion has started and someone wants to blame president Trump?
More failure from Brandon's administration. Failure after failure our country is paying
a very heavy price for all the malfeasance from Biden!
 

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So now the minor incursion has started and someone wants to blame president Trump?
More failure from Brandon's administration. Failure after failure our country is paying
a very heavy price for all the malfeasance from Biden!
  1. Yes
  2. The international failure you are talking about is that the US influence in the world decreased under Trump and it still stands even though the president has changed , very much due to the continuations of undermining the presidency.
  3. Malfeasance from Biden: Please be more specific, I don't know what you are talking about.
 

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That Donald Trump, despite his rhetoric, failed to "America Great Again", unfortunately did not end with his term.

Paradoxically, under Trump, the United States actually became "smaller." It became a United States that opted out of collaborations if they did not directly benefit their own short-term purposes. During Trump you left the Paris Agreement, terminated the nuclear agreement with Iran and - sometimes rightly - criticized a large number of international organizations, but all the time on your own without talking to allies and always happy to attack allies in the process. In Large questions as weel as in small ones. Trump even threatened, in an executive order, people that cooperated with the International Criminal Court (ICC) that they would have their assets in the United States frozen. And so on. The list goes on.

Donald Trump was also only primarily involved in international issues that directly affected the US and in many situations his international involvement was directly correlated to his personal exposure ,such as his attack on terrorism and dealings with North Korea. That along with the fact that he alienated (and in some cases "sold out") former allies led to a weakening of the US global position and as a consequence, the advancement of other major powers.

Trump is no longer president, but through his allegations of vote-rigging and his campaign to undermine democratic institutions, he has also weakened the US presidency, and security policy failures continue to be reflected in a geopolitical trend of a relative weakening of the United States.

Is the crisis in Ukraine a consequence, (or from Russia's perspective a possibility) of the international weakening of US influence? This also applies to the increasingly serious situation for Taiwan (and it would not surprise me if a Chinese attack is less than a year or two away.)
Tell me...which countries have more of a stake in what happens in Ukraine? The US...or the various countries in the EU?

Now don't get me wrong. The US can help, but I think the EU should take the lead. You seem to want the US to tell y'all what to do.
 

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Tell me...which countries have more of a stake in what happens in Ukraine? The US...or the various countries in the EU?

Now don't get me wrong. The US can help, but I think the EU should take the lead. You seem to want the US to tell y'all what to do.

:rolleyes: You put your finger on it and are making my point for me: I'll quote myself as an answer"It became a United States that opted out of collaborations if they did not directly benefit their own short-term purposes."


The answer is off course in the short term the EU, but in the long term, both of us, our economies are wrapped together and depending on eachother . In fact in the long term: you.



Do you think that Russia would be as aggressive as they are at the moment if the US position wasn't weakend?
 

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Tell me...which countries have more of a stake in what happens in Ukraine? The US...or the various countries in the EU?

Now don't get me wrong. The US can help, but I think the EU should take the lead. You seem to want the US to tell y'all what to do.

Putin is a threat to all of us.
 

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Hmmm, let's slow down and think rationally here. Four years of a strong leader of the free world and relative peace. And now, one year of a weak leader and we are on the brink of a major war.
 

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:rolleyes: You put your finger on it and are making my point for me: I'll quote myself as an answer"It became a United States that opted out of collaborations if they did not directly benefit their own short-term purposes."


The answer is off course in the short term the EU, but in the long term, both of us, our economies are wrapped together and depending on eachother . In fact in the long term: you.



Do you think that Russia would be as aggressive as they are at the moment if the US position wasn't weakend?
"short term" has nothing to do with it. Especially for the EU. You are looking at very long term consequences.

And our economies do not need to be "wrapped together". That's what Trump was trying to undo. The fact is, the US doesn't depend upon anyone economically. We are the largest economy in the world. You depend upon us.

Let me ask you this: Do you think that Russia would be as aggressive as they are at the moment if Trump were President? I don't. I think they are aggressive now because Biden is President and the EU wants weak Biden to take the lead.
 

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Hmmm, let's slow down and think rationally here. Four years of a strong leader of the free world and relative peace. And now, one year of a weak leader and we are on the brink of a major war.
Thats right. Without his lap dog running interference for him from the WH, Putin ran out of patience and got aggressive again. You want to blame Presidents for this mess, blame Bush 43, Obama and the grand Poobah of bad presidents Mafia Donald Trump.
 

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"short term" has nothing to do with it. Especially for the EU. You are looking at very long term consequences.

And our economies do not need to be "wrapped together". That's what Trump was trying to undo. The fact is, the US doesn't depend upon anyone economically. We are the largest economy in the world. You depend upon us.
This is just total ignorance and nonsense from someone that don't understand economics and how it works. For an example, take a look at Russia and see what the GDP and the standard of living is for the general Russian. Russia has, by the way, very much done just that.
 

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This is just total ignorance and nonsense from someone that don't understand economics and how it works. For an example, take a look at Russia and see what the GDP and the standard of living is for the general Russian. Russia has, by the way, very much done just that.
The US isn't worried about Russia's economy, either. Though, that might be something you and the EU should worry about.

I was talking about your statement that the US depends upon YOUR economy. We don't. (or, we shouldn't)
 

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That Donald Trump, despite his rhetoric, failed to "America Great Again", unfortunately did not end with his term.

Paradoxically, under Trump, the United States actually became "smaller." It became a United States that opted out of collaborations if they did not directly benefit their own short-term purposes. During Trump you left the Paris Agreement, terminated the nuclear agreement with Iran and - sometimes rightly - criticized a large number of international organizations, but all the time on your own without talking to allies and always happy to attack allies in the process. In Large questions as weel as in small ones. Trump even threatened, in an executive order, people that cooperated with the International Criminal Court (ICC) that they would have their assets in the United States frozen. And so on. The list goes on.

Donald Trump was also only primarily involved in international issues that directly affected the US and in many situations his international involvement was directly correlated to his personal exposure ,such as his attack on terrorism and dealings with North Korea. That along with the fact that he alienated (and in some cases "sold out") former allies led to a weakening of the US global position and as a consequence, the advancement of other major powers.

Trump is no longer president, but through his allegations of vote-rigging and his campaign to undermine democratic institutions, he has also weakened the US presidency, and security policy failures continue to be reflected in a geopolitical trend of a relative weakening of the United States.

Is the crisis in Ukraine a consequence, (or from Russia's perspective a possibility) of the international weakening of US influence? This also applies to the increasingly serious situation for Taiwan (and it would not surprise me if a Chinese attack is less than a year or two away.)
We are fully aware of this.
 
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