Trump lies that Biden would 'destroy' Obamacare's protections for pre-existing conditions

[Paradoxical]

Great insight. But this story is true. Trump and the GOP have been going after pre-existing condition protections for years. Via legislation, regulation, and litigation. If they win in court, pre-existing conditions come back.

You are wrong. There has to be a way to prevent people from NOT being insured ever, having cancer that would cost millions, and the day before a needed operation take out a policy with Yourwell Ins. The left thinks that there is this big pile of money sitting somewhere that can be used for such situations and that the well never runs dry. The left knows zero about economics. THIS alone is what the fight is over....which sucker insurance company would have to take on all comers who wait until they are sick to pay a premium? Would YOU if you owned an insurance company want to insure a house that was on fire when the guy called?

There is only one answer to this and Obama was on the right track, except his plan was fake. He was going to fine people who didn't take out insurance through their taxes. This was a transparent attemt to get everyone covered who were deadbeats and didn't work. How would yo collect a "fine" from them?

He was on track in the sense that he knew that healthy young people won't pay for health insurance unless the government forced them to. I don't mind that but I also think all those who are deadbeats and work under the table should share in the burden. Other countries make them pay a VAT and that is what America must do. That pool of money is then used for everyone who is uninsured and has preexisting conditions. Then, even the poor people can be proud they paid something towards their burden to society, instead of buying the latest video games. .

 

[Paradoxical]

If you go to the hospital you will get treated. If you don't have insurance you will get the bill. In fact if you have insurance you still will get a bill. If you don't pay it you will have a collection agency after you for the money. you will have a judgment filed against you. You could have your wages garnished. You could be forced into bankruptcy.

Now if you have nothing and qualify for medicade you are covered

How do you collect from a welfare recipient or unemployed person living with parents or friends?

 

[Paradoxical]

How does Cedars Sinai pay to have the best surgeons performing free operations? Could it be state and federal funding?

Blows the Goebbelsian lie that people with preexisting conditions and no insurance are not treated, eh?

 

[noonereal]

Heeey the full line is “like he’s lying.” We can’t know. Like with racism. Can’t know what’s truly in someone’s heart.

Even if you hear them telling Bob Woodward in a recorded conversation.

This is surrealism we are living.

 

[Greenbeard]

You are wrong. There has to be a way to prevent people from NOT being insured ever, having cancer that would cost millions, and the day before a needed operation take out a policy with Yourwell Ins.

That's why there are open enrollment periods. You can't buy insurance the day before an operation.

Regardless, Trump and the GOP are trying to eliminate pre-existing condition protections.

 

[BlueTex]

Blows the Goebbelsian lie that people with preexisting conditions and no insurance are not treated, eh?

How does the uninsured person in Alabama access Cedar Sinai wonderful government funded healthcare?

 

[Paradoxical]

That's why there are open enrollment periods. You can't buy insurance the day before an operation.

Regardless, Trump and the GOP are trying to eliminate pre-existing condition protections.

Evidence please. Not from any of the assassins such as the NY Times, Bloomberg, WaPo or BusinessInsider

 

[Quag]

That's why there are open enrollment periods. You can't buy insurance the day before an operation.

Regardless, Trump and the GOP are trying to eliminate pre-existing condition protections.

So you think she should have paid?

 

[Greenbeard]

Evidence please. Not from any of the assassins such as the NY Times, Bloomberg, WaPo or BusinessInsider

Trump's DOJ this summer, asking SCOTUS to bring back pre-existing conditions: California v. Texas, Brief for the Federal Respondents

Trump's HHS, opening the flood gates for junk insurance that is "not subject to the requirement to provide essential health benefits and . . .not subject to the prohibitions on preexisting condition exclusions or lifetime and annual dollar limits. . . also not subject to requirements regarding guaranteed availability and guaranteed renewability".

Trump and the House GOP's health legislation, which per the Congressional Budget Office would have had the following effects:

Community-rated premiums would rise over time, and people who are less healthy (including those with preexisting or newly acquired medical conditions) would ultimately be unable to purchase comprehensive nongroup health insurance at premiums comparable to those under current law, if they could purchase it at all—despite the additional funding that would be available under H.R. 1628 to help reduce premiums. As a result, the nongroup markets in those states would become unstable for people with higher-than-average expected health care costs. That instability would cause some people who would have been insured in the nongroup market under current law to be uninsured.

Over time, it would become more difficult for less healthy people (including people with preexisting medical conditions) in those states to purchase insurance because their premiums would continue to increase rapidly.

People living in states modifying the EHBs who used services or benefits no longer included in the EHBs would experience substantial increases in out-of-pocket spending on health care or would choose to forgo the services.

Although the agencies expect that the legislation would increase the number of uninsured broadly, the increase would be disproportionately larger among older people with lower income—particularly people between 50 and 64 years old with income of less than 200 percent of the federal poverty level . . . For older people with lower income, net premiums would be much larger than under current law, on average.

However, the agencies estimate that about one-sixth of the population resides in areas in which the nongroup market would start to become unstable beginning in 2020. That instability would result from market responses to decisions by some states to waive two provisions of federal law, as would be permitted under H.R. 1628.

Trump is no friend of people with pre-existing conditions.

 

[Aletheia]

Trump is no friend of people with pre-existing conditions.

He gets up and brags about being responsible for supporting pre-existing conditions, and even more mind-boggling, the right believe him.

There are those who see through the lies, and should be changing their votes this November, correspondingly.

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President Donald Trump has long sought, unsuccessfully, to kill the Affordable Care Act, which established an unprecedented level of protection for those with pre-existing conditions.
But on Monday, he claimed credit for being "the person who saved Pre-Existing Conditions in your Healthcare" in a tweet blasting an ad by former New York City Mayor and 2020 Democratic candidate Michael Bloomberg that attacks the President's record on health care.

 

[Jack2aTee]

Isn't it Trump who is trying to destroy pre-existing conditions legislation?

"The president...is currently trying to destroy Obamacare and its protections for preexisting conditions; says Joe Biden, who helped institute those protections, will destroy them."

Trump Lies Shamelessly About Preexisting Conditions Protections, Says Joe Biden Wants to Destroy Them

 

[Jack2aTee]

Evidence please.

:shock: :shock:

 

[rickc]

How do you collect from a welfare recipient or unemployed person living with parents or friends?

Like I said if you qualify for Medicade you are covered

We, the taxpayers, foot the bill

 

[Paradoxical]

Like I said if you qualify for Medicade you are covered

We, the taxpayers, foot the bill

Why should we, when many of those in that category can afford cell phones, big screen TVs, Nike shoes, cars, etc.?

 

[Craig234]

This is how crazy the effects of ignorance by many voters is. It's like Hitler saying FDR ran death camps for Jews to attack him. trump not only doesn't have to DO anything for pre-existing conditions, he can be fighting to repeal protection, yet just claim he's the one fighting for protections, and get political credit from millions. If his court fight DID repeal protection, he'd just claim Democrats did it presumably.

 

[Craig234]

People who HAVE pre-existing conditions, and don't have employer insurance covering them, know the truth that they got covered by the ACA. But they're a minority. Millions of voters listen to what trump lies.

 

[rickc]

People who HAVE pre-existing conditions, and don't have employer insurance covering them, know the truth that they got covered by the ACA. But they're a minority. Millions of voters listen to what trump lies.

Real problem with the pre-existing condition is if you have had cancer or.some other condition and you quit your job or.get laid.off then you can't get insurance.

Great for health insurance companies but bad for Americans

 

[CaughtInThe]

i love that the Southern "fake" Christians are backing Trump. they have always been who i said they were.


thanks Trump.

 

[Craig234]

Real problem with the pre-existing condition is if you have had cancer or.some other condition and you quit your job or.get laid.off then you can't get insurance.

Great for health insurance companies but bad for Americans

Except, now you can thanks to the ACA.

A right trump and Republicans are fighting to take away, and lying about both that they are trying to take it away, as well as denying credit to Obama for passing it.