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Attorney Alan Dershowitz said on Sunday the argument that a president cannot be impeached for abusing his power is a “strong one” that has been successful in the past.
Dershowitz, who's serving as legal counsel for President Trump's defense team in the Senate impeachment trial, told George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week” that he is following in the footsteps of Justice Benjamin Curtis who defended President Andrew Johnson. He said Curtis had argued that proof of a crime was necessary for a president to be removed from office.
“So I am making an argument much like the argument made by the great Justice Curtis,” he said. “And to call them absurdist is to, you know, insult one of the greatest jurists in American history. The argument is a strong one. The Senate should hear it.”
He said the constitutional framers worried about “giving Congress too much power” to weaponize impeachment on a partisan basis, adding that abuse of power is too “open-ended.”
Alan Dershowitz: Argument president cannot be impeached for abusing power a 'strong one' | TheHill
Alan Dershowitz is very left wing. He's defending Trump because he thinks the impeachment charges are 100% partisan and bogus.
Do you think the impeachment charges are bogus?
Attorney Alan Dershowitz said on Sunday the argument that a president cannot be impeached for abusing his power is a “strong one” that has been successful in the past.
Dershowitz, who's serving as legal counsel for President Trump's defense team in the Senate impeachment trial, told George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week” that he is following in the footsteps of Justice Benjamin Curtis who defended President Andrew Johnson. He said Curtis had argued that proof of a crime was necessary for a president to be removed from office.
“So I am making an argument much like the argument made by the great Justice Curtis,” he said. “And to call them absurdist is to, you know, insult one of the greatest jurists in American history. The argument is a strong one. The Senate should hear it.”
He said the constitutional framers worried about “giving Congress too much power” to weaponize impeachment on a partisan basis, adding that abuse of power is too “open-ended.”
Alan Dershowitz: Argument president cannot be impeached for abusing power a 'strong one' | TheHill
Alan Dershowitz is very left wing. He's defending Trump because he thinks the impeachment charges are 100% partisan and bogus.
Do you think the impeachment charges are bogus?
Attorney Alan Dershowitz said on Sunday the argument that a president cannot be impeached for abusing his power is a “strong one” that has been successful in the past.
Dershowitz, who's serving as legal counsel for President Trump's defense team in the Senate impeachment trial, told George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week” that he is following in the footsteps of Justice Benjamin Curtis who defended President Andrew Johnson. He said Curtis had argued that proof of a crime was necessary for a president to be removed from office.
“So I am making an argument much like the argument made by the great Justice Curtis,” he said. “And to call them absurdist is to, you know, insult one of the greatest jurists in American history. The argument is a strong one. The Senate should hear it.”
He said the constitutional framers worried about “giving Congress too much power” to weaponize impeachment on a partisan basis, adding that abuse of power is too “open-ended.”
Alan Dershowitz: Argument president cannot be impeached for abusing power a 'strong one' | TheHill
Alan Dershowitz is very left wing. He's defending Trump because he thinks the impeachment charges are 100% partisan and bogus.
Do you think the impeachment charges are bogus?
Attorney Alan Dershowitz said on Sunday the argument that a president cannot be impeached for abusing his power is a “strong one” that has been successful in the past.
Dershowitz, who's serving as legal counsel for President Trump's defense team in the Senate impeachment trial, told George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week” that he is following in the footsteps of Justice Benjamin Curtis who defended President Andrew Johnson. He said Curtis had argued that proof of a crime was necessary for a president to be removed from office.
“So I am making an argument much like the argument made by the great Justice Curtis,” he said. “And to call them absurdist is to, you know, insult one of the greatest jurists in American history. The argument is a strong one. The Senate should hear it.”
He said the constitutional framers worried about “giving Congress too much power” to weaponize impeachment on a partisan basis, adding that abuse of power is too “open-ended.”
Alan Dershowitz: Argument president cannot be impeached for abusing power a 'strong one' | TheHill
Alan Dershowitz is very left wing. He's defending Trump because he thinks the impeachment charges are 100% partisan and bogus.
Do you think the impeachment charges are bogus?
Attorney Alan Dershowitz said on Sunday the argument that a president cannot be impeached for abusing his power is a “strong one” that has been successful in the past.
Dershowitz, who's serving as legal counsel for President Trump's defense team in the Senate impeachment trial, told George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week” that he is following in the footsteps of Justice Benjamin Curtis who defended President Andrew Johnson. He said Curtis had argued that proof of a crime was necessary for a president to be removed from office.
“So I am making an argument much like the argument made by the great Justice Curtis,” he said. “And to call them absurdist is to, you know, insult one of the greatest jurists in American history. The argument is a strong one. The Senate should hear it.”
He said the constitutional framers worried about “giving Congress too much power” to weaponize impeachment on a partisan basis, adding that abuse of power is too “open-ended.”
Alan Dershowitz: Argument president cannot be impeached for abusing power a 'strong one' | TheHill
Alan Dershowitz is very left wing. He's defending Trump because he thinks the impeachment charges are 100% partisan and bogus.
Do you think the impeachment charges are bogus?
There is some truth to that. With the checks and balances, it is rather difficult for a president to actually abuse his power. If he is able to do something then he apparently had the power to do it or he wouldn't have been able to do it.
Attorney Alan Dershowitz said on Sunday the argument that a president cannot be impeached for abusing his power is a “strong one” that has been successful in the past.
Dershowitz, who's serving as legal counsel for President Trump's defense team in the Senate impeachment trial, told George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week” that he is following in the footsteps of Justice Benjamin Curtis who defended President Andrew Johnson. He said Curtis had argued that proof of a crime was necessary for a president to be removed from office.
“So I am making an argument much like the argument made by the great Justice Curtis,” he said. “And to call them absurdist is to, you know, insult one of the greatest jurists in American history. The argument is a strong one. The Senate should hear it.”
He said the constitutional framers worried about “giving Congress too much power” to weaponize impeachment on a partisan basis, adding that abuse of power is too “open-ended.”
Alan Dershowitz: Argument president cannot be impeached for abusing power a 'strong one' | TheHill
Alan Dershowitz is very left wing. He's defending Trump because he thinks the impeachment charges are 100% partisan and bogus.
Do you think the impeachment charges are bogus?
Attorney Alan Dershowitz said on Sunday the argument that a president cannot be impeached for abusing his power is a “strong one” that has been successful in the past.
Dershowitz, who's serving as legal counsel for President Trump's defense team in the Senate impeachment trial, told George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week” that he is following in the footsteps of Justice Benjamin Curtis who defended President Andrew Johnson. He said Curtis had argued that proof of a crime was necessary for a president to be removed from office.
“So I am making an argument much like the argument made by the great Justice Curtis,” he said. “And to call them absurdist is to, you know, insult one of the greatest jurists in American history. The argument is a strong one. The Senate should hear it.”
He said the constitutional framers worried about “giving Congress too much power” to weaponize impeachment on a partisan basis, adding that abuse of power is too “open-ended.”
Alan Dershowitz: Argument president cannot be impeached for abusing power a 'strong one' | TheHill
Alan Dershowitz is very left wing. He's defending Trump because he thinks the impeachment charges are 100% partisan and bogus.
Do you think the impeachment charges are bogus?
This is an example of the insanity Trump & his are trying to foster upon us. That he can shoot someone on the street, and not be liable for it. That he is immune from any form of oversight. And now, that cannot be impeached for abusing his power.Attorney Alan Dershowitz said on Sunday the argument that a president cannot be impeached for abusing his power is a “strong one” that has been successful in the past.
Dershowitz, who's serving as legal counsel for President Trump's defense team in the Senate impeachment trial, told George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week” that he is following in the footsteps of Justice Benjamin Curtis who defended President Andrew Johnson. He said Curtis had argued that proof of a crime was necessary for a president to be removed from office.
“So I am making an argument much like the argument made by the great Justice Curtis,” he said. “And to call them absurdist is to, you know, insult one of the greatest jurists in American history. The argument is a strong one. The Senate should hear it.”
He said the constitutional framers worried about “giving Congress too much power” to weaponize impeachment on a partisan basis, adding that abuse of power is too “open-ended.”
Alan Dershowitz: Argument president cannot be impeached for abusing power a 'strong one' | TheHill
Alan Dershowitz is very left wing. He's defending Trump because he thinks the impeachment charges are 100% partisan and bogus.
Do you think the impeachment charges are bogus?
Yep. Abuse of power is the "high crime" itself.Abuse of power is a more general term for a President that uses the powers of the presidency for corrupt purposes. It is not intended to be a criminal charge because it is not the job of the Congress to determine what criminal charges a President should face (if any), but whether their use of the Presidency constitutes a "high crime" or "misdemeanor" against the nation.
Beyond!Nixon was never accused of burglary, he was accused of abuse of power. Clinton also was presented with an abuse of power article, but it failed to pass in the House during the vote.
It is also just a flat out lie to say the framers intended to keep impeachment narrow. They left it open ended because not many statutory laws existed, and knew there were a million ways to abuse the presidency.
Dershowitz arguments are idiotic.
That’s some brilliant reasoning there!
They are vague and too open to interpretation.
Article I "Abuse of Power" tries to lump accusations of bribery, extortion, etc., into the vague "abuse of power" heading. This was done (IMO) in hopes they would be able to demand witnesses appear before the Senate expecting such testimony would prove those crimes. It is the "fishing expedition" allegation. They KNOW they rushed the process for political reasons. Now they want to use the Senate trial to find something, and if they can't, then cast blame on the Senate for not being "fair."
Article II "Obstruction of Congress" is a made-up crime. Based on opposition to the SCOTUS determination of the existence of Executive Privilege. IMO the Democrats are trying to claim that during Impeachment no such Executive Privilege exists. But you don't do that in an Impeachment trial, you argue that in the Court during the Impeachment process before you reach a determination on what to charge the President with.
Anything's impeachable, if the People say it's so! If they say something's a "high crime", then it is.even a high misdemeanor is impeachable.
Attorney Alan Dershowitz said on Sunday the argument that a president cannot be impeached for abusing his power is a “strong one” that has been successful in the past.
Dershowitz, who's serving as legal counsel for President Trump's defense team in the Senate impeachment trial, told George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week” that he is following in the footsteps of Justice Benjamin Curtis who defended President Andrew Johnson. He said Curtis had argued that proof of a crime was necessary for a president to be removed from office.
“So I am making an argument much like the argument made by the great Justice Curtis,” he said. “And to call them absurdist is to, you know, insult one of the greatest jurists in American history. The argument is a strong one. The Senate should hear it.”
He said the constitutional framers worried about “giving Congress too much power” to weaponize impeachment on a partisan basis, adding that abuse of power is too “open-ended.”
Alan Dershowitz: Argument president cannot be impeached for abusing power a 'strong one' | TheHill
Alan Dershowitz is very left wing. He's defending Trump because he thinks the impeachment charges are 100% partisan and bogus.
Do you think the impeachment charges are bogus?
Attorney Alan Dershowitz said on Sunday the argument that a president cannot be impeached for abusing his power is a “strong one” that has been successful in the past.
Dershowitz, who's serving as legal counsel for President Trump's defense team in the Senate impeachment trial, told George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week” that he is following in the footsteps of Justice Benjamin Curtis who defended President Andrew Johnson. He said Curtis had argued that proof of a crime was necessary for a president to be removed from office.
“So I am making an argument much like the argument made by the great Justice Curtis,” he said. “And to call them absurdist is to, you know, insult one of the greatest jurists in American history. The argument is a strong one. The Senate should hear it.”
He said the constitutional framers worried about “giving Congress too much power” to weaponize impeachment on a partisan basis, adding that abuse of power is too “open-ended.”
Alan Dershowitz: Argument president cannot be impeached for abusing power a 'strong one' | TheHill
Alan Dershowitz is very left wing. He's defending Trump because he thinks the impeachment charges are 100% partisan and bogus.
Do you think the impeachment charges are bogus?
Attorney Alan Dershowitz said on Sunday the argument that a president cannot be impeached for abusing his power is a “strong one” that has been successful in the past.
Dershowitz, who's serving as legal counsel for President Trump's defense team in the Senate impeachment trial, told George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s “This Week” that he is following in the footsteps of Justice Benjamin Curtis who defended President Andrew Johnson. He said Curtis had argued that proof of a crime was necessary for a president to be removed from office.
“So I am making an argument much like the argument made by the great Justice Curtis,” he said. “And to call them absurdist is to, you know, insult one of the greatest jurists in American history. The argument is a strong one. The Senate should hear it.”
He said the constitutional framers worried about “giving Congress too much power” to weaponize impeachment on a partisan basis, adding that abuse of power is too “open-ended.”
Alan Dershowitz: Argument president cannot be impeached for abusing power a 'strong one' | TheHill
Alan Dershowitz is very left wing. He's defending Trump because he thinks the impeachment charges are 100% partisan and bogus.
Do you think the impeachment charges are bogus?
A well-constituted court for the trial of impeachments is an object not more to be desired than difficult to be obtained in a government wholly elective. The subjects of its jurisdiction are those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated POLITICAL, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself. The prosecution of them, for this reason, will seldom fail to agitate the passions of the whole community, and to divide it into parties more or less friendly or inimical to the accused. In many cases it will connect itself with the pre-existing factions, and will enlist all their animosities, partialities, influence, and interest on one side or on the other; and in such cases there will always be the greatest danger that the decision will be regulated more by the comparative strength of parties, than by the real demonstrations of innocence or guilt.
This applies to the Constitution, as well.
“ The Supreme Court is "distinctly American in concept and function," as Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes observed. Few other courts in the world have the same authority of constitutional interpretation and none have exercised it for as long or with as much influence.”
The Court and Constitutional Interpretation - Supreme Court of the United States
Anything's impeachable, if the People say it's so! If they say something's a "high crime", then it is.
Alan Dershowitz has been a Trump sycophant all along. His argument that a president cannot be impeached for abusing his power is absurd -- arguing that a president can only be impeached for violating an actual statute, which weren't written at the time. After hearing him say that on TV I checked Federalist 65, where the Founders debated this. This is paragraph two:
Well, part of what got Clinton off was that he admitted to the nation that he had been deceptive and offered an explination that his actions had more to do with protecting his family, and that his actions were still wrong, and he asked the nation for forgiveness. That had a major impact in his aquittal. It's something we all know Trump will never do.Dershowitz's claim isn't exactly that a president can't be impeached for abuse of power. His claim is that the abuse has to be tied to some other crime which harms the interests of the nation in some substantial way. For example, Bill Clinton abused his power by asking Betty Currie to hide evidence of his affair with Lewinsky and to lie about the facts and circumstances of the affair. He was let off the hook because, in the Senate, it was decided that while he did commit certain crimes those crimes did not substantially harm the nation or the ability of government to function in the interests of the nation.
All of the witnesses the testified before the House stated they saw Trump's interests as entirely political, including those hand picked diplomats appointed by Trump.If the Democrats could actually prove that Trump was using his position with Zelensky for the express purpose of manipulating the 2020 election they might have a case but so far everything that has come out in that regard is purely speculative.
:roll:Where verifiable facts have been presented they have all been with regard to the 2016 election where we have hard evidence that Democrats used foreign sources to assist Clinton.
Alan Dershowitz has been a Trump sycophant all along. His argument that a president cannot be impeached for abusing his power is absurd -- arguing that a president can only be impeached for violating an actual statute, which weren't written at the time. After hearing him say that on TV I checked Federalist 65, where the Founders debated this. This is paragraph two:
Yes, because People = House.The House must believe it is an actionable offense. The House has the Power.
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