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Trump has been implicated in several federal crimes, but here's why experts say he hasn't faced lega

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What's the next step? The "campaign fund" violation is the same crime that caused Nixon to resign. If it is premeditated, with knowledge, it's a felony.

https://www.businessinsider.com/why...th-crimes-in-the-mueller-russia-probe-2018-12

Federal prosecutors implicated President Donald Trump in felonies for the first time last week, stating he directed illegal payments to two women, with whom he is accused of having affairs, in an effort to protect his presidential campaign.
 

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What's the next step? The "campaign fund" violation is the same crime that caused Nixon to resign. If it is premeditated, with knowledge, it's a felony.

https://www.businessinsider.com/why...th-crimes-in-the-mueller-russia-probe-2018-12

Federal prosecutors implicated President Donald Trump in felonies for the first time last week, stating he directed illegal payments to two women, with whom he is accused of having affairs, in an effort to protect his presidential campaign.

Was this done willfully, with premeditation , with knowledge?

https://www.usnews.com/news/article...g-for-hiding-donors-keeping-illegal-donations
 

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Bull****!!!

It is clear that is exactly why it was done, anyone that claims otherwise is in denial or blinded by a cult mentality...

You should really study the issue.

Legal Experts: Campaign Finance Violations Are Crimes | Time

“Civil fines are paid by campaigns all the time. Obama paid them, [John] McCain paid them … they’re inadvertent violations,” said Rick Hasen, a professor at University of California, Irvine who specializes in election and campaign finance law. “It’s not the amount of the money, it’s the willfulness. Knowing you’re violating the law.”
 

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Bull****!!!

It is clear that is exactly why it was done, anyone that claims otherwise is in denial or blinded by a cult mentality...

Can you honestly say Trump would NOT have paid hush money if he had not been running for President ??
 

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That appears to be what happened. All parties to the transaction, other than Trump, say it was hush money designed to protect the campaign. This would include Cohen, Pecker, Weisselberg, Daniels and McDougal. This would be consistent with the timing and urgency of the transaction post Hollywood tape reveal, pre-election.

If this were an isolated incidence of corruption, Trump would enjoy greater grace from the electorate. However, he is buried in controversies of corruption, a well documented liar and his whole position on this is rolling disclosure. Most intelligent people believe he has fully played his hand of shadow of a doubt and now stands naked, guilty as hell.

The defense of Donald Trump against ALL charges is beginning to look futile, and those that do so are increasingly looking pathetic in their loyalty. Like his policies, argue that he should run out his term and let the voters decide, but admit the man is despicable.
 

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What's the next step? The "campaign fund" violation is the same crime that caused Nixon to resign. If it is premeditated, with knowledge, it's a felony.

https://www.businessinsider.com/why...th-crimes-in-the-mueller-russia-probe-2018-12

Federal prosecutors implicated President Donald Trump in felonies for the first time last week, stating he directed illegal payments to two women, with whom he is accused of having affairs, in an effort to protect his presidential campaign.

Good luck proving President Trump knew it was illegal, if it is even illegal.
 

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What's the next step? The "campaign fund" violation is the same crime that caused Nixon to resign. If it is premeditated, with knowledge, it's a felony.

https://www.businessinsider.com/why...th-crimes-in-the-mueller-russia-probe-2018-12

Federal prosecutors implicated President Donald Trump in felonies for the first time last week, stating he directed illegal payments to two women, with whom he is accused of having affairs, in an effort to protect his presidential campaign.

John Haltiwanger ??????
Is this a rib?
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Good luck proving President Trump knew it was illegal, if it is even illegal.

It doesn't matter whether or not Mr. Trump knew it was illegal. He just had to have known it would influence the election.
 

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It doesn't matter whether or not Mr. Trump knew it was illegal. He just had to have known it would influence the election.

is that the statutory standard?
 

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Good luck proving President Trump knew it was illegal, if it is even illegal.

One doesn't have to know that a felonious act is illegal to be convicted in a court of law. Aiding and abetting, armed robbery, murder or any other felony - you still can't do it, even if you don't know it's wrong.

Also, don't you think that the National Republican Party advised Mr. Trump of the do's and don't's regarding Campaign Finance Violations? I know Trump loves to play the IGNORANT VICTIM card, but that is no longer in his deck.
 

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is that the statutory standard?

My understanding (and I'm not a lawyer), is that having knowledge of its impact on the election and then pursuing it, in and of itself shows intent, regardless of whether or not one understands the criminality of it.
 

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That appears to be what happened. All parties to the transaction, other than Trump, say it was hush money designed to protect the campaign. This would include Cohen, Pecker, Weisselberg, Daniels and McDougal. This would be consistent with the timing and urgency of the transaction post Hollywood tape reveal, pre-election.

If this were an isolated incidence of corruption, Trump would enjoy greater grace from the electorate. However, he is buried in controversies of corruption, a well documented liar and his whole position on this is rolling disclosure. Most intelligent people believe he has fully played his hand of shadow of a doubt and now stands naked, guilty as hell.

The defense of Donald Trump against ALL charges is beginning to look futile, and those that do so are increasingly looking pathetic in their loyalty. Like his policies, argue that he should run out his term and let the voters decide, but admit the man is despicable.
You people have tried everything else....bring it.
 

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My understanding (and I'm not a lawyer), is that having knowledge of its impact on the election and then pursuing it, in and of itself shows intent, regardless of whether or not one understands the criminality of it.

Who would it have an impact on?
 

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Can you honestly say Trump would NOT have paid hush money if he had not been running for President ??
Since these events happened years earlier and the hush money was paid only during 2016, I can say that the logical conclusion is that the campaign had everything to do with the money being paid.
 

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You people have tried everything else....bring it.

I love the "party of personal responsibility" that refuses to own anything.

This is your candidate. You put him up as the best the Republican party could offer. You voted for him even though you knew nothing about his past, and you didn't want to know. You let him slide on the tax returns, you let him slide on the morals issues inherent in the Access Hollywood tapes, and you let him slide through the House Intelligence committee sham of an investigation. All along the way, questions were raised, the answers to which you did not want to know.

No, you knew this guy was corrupt as anyone who has been anywhere near Washington including changed planes at its airport. Now that the chickens have come home to roost in the form of at least eight different legal issues that he is defending, it is someoneelse's fault.

Poor little misunderstood Donnie.
 

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Can you honestly say Trump would NOT have paid hush money if he had not been running for President ??

Trump didn't pay off the women - that was done by Cohen and AMI.
 

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I love the "party of personal responsibility" that refuses to own anything.

This is your candidate. You put him up as the best the Republican party could offer. You voted for him even though you knew nothing about his past, and you didn't want to know. You let him slide on the tax returns, you let him slide on the morals issues inherent in the Access Hollywood tapes, and you let him slide through the House Intelligence committee sham of an investigation. All along the way, questions were raised, the answers to which you did not want to know.

No, you knew this guy was corrupt as anyone who has been anywhere near Washington including changed planes at its airport. Now that the chickens have come home to roost in the form of at least eight different legal issues that he is defending, it is someoneelse's fault.

Poor little misunderstood Donnie.

I will own Trump's accomplishments so far. He's either done or is attempting to do what I elected him to do. Keeping promises.
 

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I don't want to start a fight but I believe influencing the campaign has to be the ONLY reason paying hush money could be considered a campaign expense.
iow, saving himself or his family embarrassment, or to not tarnish the Trump brand would be a defense.
Of course, Cohen and Pecker had to answer for themselves.
Cohen's plea didn't affect Trump's defense.
 

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One doesn't have to know that a felonious act is illegal to be convicted in a court of law. Aiding and abetting, armed robbery, murder or any other felony - you still can't do it, even if you don't know it's wrong.

Also, don't you think that the National Republican Party advised Mr. Trump of the do's and don't's regarding Campaign Finance Violations? I know Trump loves to play the IGNORANT VICTIM card, but that is no longer in his deck.

When it comes to FEC regulations, ignorance of the law is an excuse.

Usually, ignorance of the law is no defense to prosecution. A statute that criminalized, for example, the “willful killing of another with malice aforethought” would apply to someone who, with the requisite intent, killed another person, regardless of whether he was aware of the statute. That is, the statute would be concerned with whether the person “willfully” performed the act of killing, not whether he “willfully” decided to violate the law.**

But FECA, according to the United States Department of Justice, operates differently. Most of FECA’s prohibitions, including those related to contributions/donations from foreign nationals, create criminal consequences only when a person “knowingly and willfully” commits a violation of the statute.*** See 52 U.S.C. 30109(d)(1)(A). And according to the DOJ’s standards, which may differ from the case law’s (more on that later), this heightened mens rea standard means that a person must know that he is breaking the law to trigger a criminal prosecution, and must know about the relevant statutory duty: The “words [‘knowingly and willingly’] of specific criminal intent require proof that the offender was aware of what the law required, and that he or she violated that law notwithstanding that knowledge, i.e., that the offender acted in conscious disregard of a known statutory duty or prohibition.”

If Trump Jr. Didn’t Know Campaign Finance Law, He Didn’t Break It | Notice & Comment
 

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It doesn't matter whether or not Mr. Trump knew it was illegal. He just had to have known it would influence the election.

Literally everything that campaigns spend money on is designed to influence an election.
 

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Literally everything that campaigns spend money on is designed to influence an election.

LOL! You should have called Cohen's attorneys and advised of that fact. Would have changed EVERYTHING.

Man, you BLEW it for ol' Mike.
 

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Can you honestly say Trump would NOT have paid hush money if he had not been running for President ??

He wouldn't have had to declare it, that would be the difference.

That he should have declared it under the present circumstances (campaigning) and didn't, that's the crime. Now a rich guy with a good lawyer might be able to beat that rap - didn't John Edwards? But since trump can't get a decent lawyer anymore (and nobody else particularly wants to work for him) that's likely to be a problem for him.
 
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