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Trump halts work on 80% complete offshore wind project, citing bogus ‘national security interests’

Anything in/near salt water requires regular maintenance.
Yep. The existing work will probably be useless if they are forced to abandon it.
 
I read a bit on it. So apparently this was part of the Biden administration expenditures claiming more USA jobs. Shouldn't all the sourced material be USA made as well?
Which material? What should have been bought from an American company instead of being imported?
And if that was going to be a requirement, shouldn't that have been clear from the start? The company satisfied all the requirements.
 
The only reason I can see that the project can be stopped by the president is if it is using federal funding.

This is my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong:

It's not. The investment is being made almost entirely by private organizations. There are federal tax credits, of course (just like we see in your favorite industry, which you are beholden to, the oil and gas industry). The customers are the states who need the power for their residents.

The alternate energy pundits keep telling us it is cheaper than fossil fuel, so damn. It does not need any federal funding. If it is profitable, investors would be lining up to fund it.

The project is funded almost entirely by private investors, with revenue guaranteed through contracts with Rhode Island and Connecticut utilities.

I see this as a proper stoppage of wasting federal funds. Let the recipients of the power fund it.

Residents in Rhode Island and Connecticut are already paying for this project through their power bills. The government isn’t giving it cash, it's the same kind of tax breaks oil and gas companies have always had.

Stopping the project now, when it’s almost finished, is based on false pretenses, and because it already passed all the reviews, and because the project is completed this is a total bullshit. And whatever you think of the project, and whatever political motives you have due to your ties with the oil and gas industry, you must agree that it is stupid to not finish a project that is almost entirely built.

At the end of the day, Trump, his administration, and the Republican Party as a whole, are mean, belligerent assholes, and they don't give a shit about anything but their own power.

They do not care about our national security. They do not care about our energy independence. They only care about retribution against their perceived enemies. Disgusting.
 
Which material? What should have been bought from an American company instead of being imported?
And if that was going to be a requirement, shouldn't that have been clear from the start? The company satisfied all the requirements.
Yes. It should have been clear. That Biden administration package of how many trillion was supposed to benefit the USA worker. Not foreign nations.

If we are going to subsidize USA projects, I want it all USA sourced!
 
The project is just temporally shut down for a security review. We don't want our key energy infrastructure stamped with the 'made in China' label. Its too easy for them to manipulate it for politcal and military purposes.
That seems inevitable give current US policy is essentially ceding green energy technology to China because, you know, "windmills cause cancer" and "DRILL BABY DRILL" or whatever.
 
Elections have consequences and one of its first victims is this windmill nonsense.
 
Yes. It should have been clear. That Biden administration package of how many trillion was supposed to benefit the USA worker. Not foreign nations.

If we are going to subsidize USA projects, I want it all USA sourced!


That's a bit daft considering these projects started under different conditions that did not have that kind of requirement, and if work is going to stop while that's sorted out, then that affects workers who will no longer be working until these materials are sourced here.
 
Your post ignores government money spent on fossil fuels.
 
Yes. It should have been clear. That Biden administration package of how many trillion was supposed to benefit the USA worker. Not foreign nations.

If we are going to subsidize USA projects, I want it all USA sourced!
Got an answer to the question?
Which material? What should have been bought from an American company instead of being imported?
 
Elections have consequences and one of its first victims is this windmill nonsense.
Don't forget other green energy as well. The windmill, solar, geothermal "nonsense" can now be completely exploited by China even more now since we've decided to hobble ourselves by largely taking ourselves out of the race. So as the world moves to these technologies and China sorts out how to make them affordable, we too will be dependent on them if at some point we get out of the fossil fuels game, which is what most the world is looking to do.

You can already see this at play in the EV market, where China has surpassed Tesla because it is innovating in making EVs affordable and solving for the charging issues with batteries as well as charging infrastructure. Anything the US produces is going to be behind because it is not doing the same, which seems like a ridiculous position to take since it's ideologically regressive and not practical at all.
 
Elections have consequences and one of its first victims is this windmill nonsense.
Yeah, because the people who sell oil and coal and natural gas say that all alternatives to their hundreds of years old low-tech energy are nonsense.
Almost all the consumer electricity in Scotland is wind-generated and costs less than in much of the USA. And that's with decades-worth of North Sea oil unpumped.
Go ahead, double-down on burning stuff to make steam because the billionaires who sell the fuel say it's the best thing. The rest of the world will research and innovate their way into the future.
Enjoy the second-rate status. Trump, to paraphrase Mavis Staples, will take you there.
 
Just because its a Danish project doesn't mean it doesn't use Chinese components. China is the largest manufacturer of wind turbine components by far.
I can't believe you are bitching about something from China, we have millions of somethings from China here already, no? You guys just make up issues where there are none.
 
Their twisted reasoning will show up in their pocketbooks.
 
The project is just temporally shut down for a security review. We don't want our key energy infrastructure stamped with the 'made in China' label. Its too easy for them to manipulate it for politcal and military purposes.
Horse shit.
 
That seems inevitable give current US policy is essentially ceding green energy technology to China because, you know, "windmills cause cancer" and "DRILL BABY DRILL" or whatever.
When you cannot get past old issues, you have nothing.

Move forward. Live in the day and the future. Stop living in the past.
 
When you cannot get past old issues, you have nothing.

Move forward. Live in the day and the future. Stop living in the past.
That's exactly what I'm talking about, it's the future. Living in the past is for the "DRILL BABY DRILL!!" pillocks who are totally missing the boat on where the technology is going. The US should have been working hard at solving the transition to green energy for the developing world so it can secure its businesses and economy on that growth. That's been almost entirely ceded to China, and once they can make green energy even more affordable and be the main provider, the US is going to flounder with its reliance on fossil fuels. It's absolutely idiotic.
 
I will remind you this type of thing happens when a project is partisan and based on agendas instead of reality. We do not need wind power. It is a future failure. It is not cost effective.

Again, if it was cost effective, it would not need government help.

Please take off those partisan glasses and see the reality we live in.
 
Break it out line by line. YOUR PROPAGANDA HAS NOT TEETH.
There was the oil depletion allowance. There are “cancer alleys” in Louisiana and Texas that cost us all to deal with. The US has fleets in the Eastern Mediterranean and the Red Sea due to the strategic location of oil resources there.

And of course there is to consider the related issue, the climate change hoax that Trump says was invented by the Chinese.
 
Sorry. I do not believe the things you say. People keep attacking the fossil fuel industry with lies. Can you show me validated line by line facts, or not.
 
Sorry. I do not believe the things you say. People keep attacking the fossil fuel industry with lies. Can you show me validated line by line facts, or not.
Just Google “cancer ally,” the locations of US Navy fleets, etc. Ironically conservative states like Texas and Florida are right behind California in solar. Texas, Iowa, Oklahoma and Kansas lead in wind power. Have these states, and the vast majority of countries in the world been attacking the fossil fuel industry with lies?
 
Why? There are so many lies on the internet. Nothing without validation is to be believed any longer.

I want you to find the line by line subsidies you claim for the fossil fuel industry as subsidies. When you find them, you will find the are normal tax write-offs for the most part that all businesses get. The tax credits they get are simply benefits they take that the government offers for green energy.

You have no answer, so you are going off into this cancer tangent.

You started with "Your post ignores government money spent on fossil fuels." which you have no honest and verifiable answer for.
 
Why? There are so many lies on the internet. Nothing without validation is to be believed any longer.

I want you to find the line by line subsidies you claim for the fossil fuel industry as subsidies. When you find them, you will find the are normal tax write-offs for the most part that all businesses get. The tax credits they get are simply benefits they take that the government offers for green energy.

You have no answer, so you are going off into this cancer tangent.
 
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