Trump gives no timetable for pullout from 'sand and death' Syria

[TU Curmudgeon]

From al-Jazeera

Trump gives no timetable for pullout from 'sand and death' Syria
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US President Donald Trump said on Wednesday the United States would get out of Syria "over a period of time" and that he wants to protect the US-backed Kurdish fighters in the country as Washington draws down troops.

Trump did not provide a timetable for the planned military exit from Syria, which he described as "sand and death".

The US president unexpectedly announced the troop pull-out last month against the advice of top national security aides and without consulting politicians or US allies participating in the fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS).

Defense Secretary James Mattis unexpectedly resigned after the announcement and Brett McGurk, the US's top envoy in the fight against ISIL, announced he would be leaving his post earlier than expected due to the decision.

COMMENT:-

So does this mean that Mr. Trump's announcement that he was going to get American troops out of Syria actually mean that, at some (undefined) point in time, under some (undefined) conditions, he was going (or not going) to have all American forces (more or less) out of (whatever that means) Syria?
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[year2late]

Trump should be put on time out and lose twitter privileges forever.

He uses tweets to shake up **** which is one thing when he is CEO and another when he is responsible for peoples lives.

 

[ttwtt78640]

It would seem that your assessment is correct - Trump was spewing a vague desire to exit Syria "soonest". Much like the Obama "red line" assertion.

 

[Rexedgar]

It would seem that your assessment is correct - Trump was spewing a vague desire to exit Syria "soonest". Much like the Obama "red line" assertion.

I don’t see the parallel there........

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

Trump tweets and talks only to throw red meat to his foaming at the mouth base.

His base keeps him in power because they scare the hell out of the rest of the Republican party. If he loses his base, he loses, period.

 

[Dittohead not!]

From al-Jazeera

Trump gives no timetable for pullout from 'sand and death' Syria
​

US President Donald Trump said on Wednesday the United States would get out of Syria "over a period of time" and that he wants to protect the US-backed Kurdish fighters in the country as Washington draws down troops.

Trump did not provide a timetable for the planned military exit from Syria, which he described as "sand and death".

The US president unexpectedly announced the troop pull-out last month against the advice of top national security aides and without consulting politicians or US allies participating in the fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS).

Defense Secretary James Mattis unexpectedly resigned after the announcement and Brett McGurk, the US's top envoy in the fight against ISIL, announced he would be leaving his post earlier than expected due to the decision.

COMMENT:-

So does this mean that Mr. Trump's announcement that he was going to get American troops out of Syria actually mean that, at some (undefined) point in time, under some (undefined) conditions, he was going (or not going) to have all American forces (more or less) out of (whatever that means) Syria?
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What it means is that he once again shot off his mouth, or his thumbs as the case may be, on Twitter without thinking first, and is now back peddling, making a 180 degree turn around, and looking for ways to blame the Democrats for having made a stupid statement. In other words, business as usual.

He needs this poster in his office:

 

[ttwtt78640]

I don’t see the parallel there........

Saying that a specific action will be taken and then not taking that action. Unlike the Obama backdown, Trump cannot claim that some condition was not exactly proven to have been met because Trump did not say that if (or when) X happens I will withdraw US military forces from Syria. His only "out" is that he did not say immediately or by some fixed date. Trump takes pride in his unpredictability.

 

[dave8383]

What it means is that he was starving for attention so he said, thinking this will get 'em, I'm pulling out of Syria.

 

[Rexedgar]

Saying that a specific action will be taken and then not taking that action. Unlike the Obama backdown, Trump cannot claim that some condition was not exactly proven to have been met because Trump did not say that if (or when) X happens I will withdraw US military forces from Syria. His only "out" is that he did not say immediately or by some fixed date. Trump takes pride in his unpredictability.

I think he more times throws things out to see how much blow-back he gets and from what quarter.

 

[Mycroft]

From al-Jazeera

Trump gives no timetable for pullout from 'sand and death' Syria
​

US President Donald Trump said on Wednesday the United States would get out of Syria "over a period of time" and that he wants to protect the US-backed Kurdish fighters in the country as Washington draws down troops.

Trump did not provide a timetable for the planned military exit from Syria, which he described as "sand and death".

The US president unexpectedly announced the troop pull-out last month against the advice of top national security aides and without consulting politicians or US allies participating in the fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS).

Defense Secretary James Mattis unexpectedly resigned after the announcement and Brett McGurk, the US's top envoy in the fight against ISIL, announced he would be leaving his post earlier than expected due to the decision.

COMMENT:-

So does this mean that Mr. Trump's announcement that he was going to get American troops out of Syria actually mean that, at some (undefined) point in time, under some (undefined) conditions, he was going (or not going) to have all American forces (more or less) out of (whatever that means) Syria?
​

What is Trump thinking?!?!

Of COURSE, he should be telling the world what his timetable is for pulling the troops out of Syria. Syria, Russia, Turkey...hell, even ISIS...deserve to know. :doh

Just like Saddam deserved to know when Operation Desert Storm was going to happen...just like bin Laden deserved to know when the SEAL Team was coming for him.

Why are American Presidents such IDIOTS!!!??

/s

 

[iguanaman]

From al-Jazeera

Trump gives no timetable for pullout from 'sand and death' Syria
​

US President Donald Trump said on Wednesday the United States would get out of Syria "over a period of time" and that he wants to protect the US-backed Kurdish fighters in the country as Washington draws down troops.

Trump did not provide a timetable for the planned military exit from Syria, which he described as "sand and death".

The US president unexpectedly announced the troop pull-out last month against the advice of top national security aides and without consulting politicians or US allies participating in the fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS).

Defense Secretary James Mattis unexpectedly resigned after the announcement and Brett McGurk, the US's top envoy in the fight against ISIL, announced he would be leaving his post earlier than expected due to the decision.

COMMENT:-

So does this mean that Mr. Trump's announcement that he was going to get American troops out of Syria actually mean that, at some (undefined) point in time, under some (undefined) conditions, he was going (or not going) to have all American forces (more or less) out of (whatever that means) Syria?
​

Trump is notorious for taking the advice of the last person he talks to and in this case it was Erdogan, the brutal radical Muslim dictator of Turkey who told him he was massing troops on the border for an invasion to destroy the Kurds and if he didn't want Americans hurt he should leave. As it turns out our military refused to abandon the Kurds and are not afraid of Turkey so now we have this. Trump is the biggest wimp that has ever been CIC.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Trump should be put on time out and lose twitter privileges forever.

He uses tweets to shake up **** which is one thing when he is CEO and another when he is responsible for peoples lives.

According to "The Art of Let's Make A Deal", Mr. Trump is only responsible for GOOD things. Anything BAD is ALWAYS the fault of someone else.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

As it turns out our military refused to abandon the Kurds and are not afraid of Turkey so now we have this.

The thought that Mr. Trump's generals would develop sufficient backbone (read as "disregard for the security of their pensions") to actually even give the slightest hint that they were displeased with Mr. Trump's decision and to even imply that implementing that decision would result in one of the biggest black eyes in American history, does make one go "Hmmmm?" - doesn't it?

Trump is the biggest wimp that has ever been CIC.

Now how can you possibly say that about someone who fought through the disabling pain of bone spurs to become 3 sport varsity athlete in high school (at New York Military Academy). He played baseball and football as his primary sports, and 1 year of soccer.

Now I know that it is possible to surgically correct bone spurs, but since Mr. Trump was so poor during college he just couldn't afford to have that done. Why if he had had that done then he'd be able to get out in the open air and play golf today and everyone knows that that never happens.

 

[Barnacle]

From al-Jazeera

Trump gives no timetable for pullout from 'sand and death' Syria
​

US President Donald Trump said on Wednesday the United States would get out of Syria "over a period of time" and that he wants to protect the US-backed Kurdish fighters in the country as Washington draws down troops.

Trump did not provide a timetable for the planned military exit from Syria, which he described as "sand and death".

The US president unexpectedly announced the troop pull-out last month against the advice of top national security aides and without consulting politicians or US allies participating in the fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS).

Defense Secretary James Mattis unexpectedly resigned after the announcement and Brett McGurk, the US's top envoy in the fight against ISIL, announced he would be leaving his post earlier than expected due to the decision.

COMMENT:-

So does this mean that Mr. Trump's announcement that he was going to get American troops out of Syria actually mean that, at some (undefined) point in time, under some (undefined) conditions, he was going (or not going) to have all American forces (more or less) out of (whatever that means) Syria?
​

All the news media have been reporting in the last 3 days: "withdrawal from Syria over a period of 4 months".

You don't consider that a timeline?!?

 

[Mr Person]

Eh, all he has to do is shake hands with ISIS and declare them beaten.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

All the news media have been reporting in the last 3 days: "withdrawal from Syria over a period of 4 months".

You don't consider that a timeline?!?

At a guess, the latest date for finally being out of Syria is June 14. The same date possibly applies to Afghanistan. The same date possibly applies to Korea. The same date possibly applies to Iraq. The same date possibly applies to a US/China trade deal. The same date possibly applies to starting construction of "The Wall".

What's so special about June 14?

Ask Mr. Trump.

 

[Barnacle]

At a guess, the latest date for finally being out of Syria is June 14. The same date possibly applies to Afghanistan. The same date possibly applies to Korea. The same date possibly applies to Iraq. The same date possibly applies to a US/China trade deal. The same date possibly applies to starting construction of "The Wall".

What's so special about June 14?

Ask Mr. Trump.

So; we have a timeline of 4 months for Syria withdrawal while you started a thread claiming "no timetable for withdrawal from Syria" ...

and now you go into a hissy-fit about everything that's got nothing to do with the Syria withdrawal?!?


Take a chill pill ... :lamo

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

So; we have a timeline of 4 months for Syria withdrawal while you started a thread claiming "no timetable for withdrawal from Syria" ...

Blame the person who wrote the headline because I only follow the rules and use the actual title from the actual article linked to as the thread title.

If the article had been headlines "Trump wisely refuses to give specific dates for stages of withdrawal" then that is what the thread title would have been.

If you think that that is what the thread title should be, then ask a mod to change it and see how far you get.

PS - If the mods think that the thread title should have been "Trump wisely refuses to give specific dates for stages of withdrawal" I have absolutely no objection to them making the change as long as that change accords with the forum rules for thread titles.

 

[Barnacle]

Blame the person who wrote the headline because I only follow the rules and use the actual title from the actual article linked to as the thread title.

If the article had been headlines "Trump wisely refuses to give specific dates for stages of withdrawal" then that is what the thread title would have been.

If you think that that is what the thread title should be, then ask a mod to change it and see how far you get.

PS - If the mods think that the thread title should have been "Trump wisely refuses to give specific dates for stages of withdrawal" I have absolutely no objection to them making the change as long as that change accords with the forum rules for thread titles.

Hilarious ... :lamo

 

[Airyaman]

This will make Trump change his mind about Syria:

Warren aligns with Trump on Afghanistan and Syria, signaling a potential shift among Democrats

 

[Atomic Kid]

What is Trump thinking?!?!

Of COURSE, he should be telling the world what his timetable is for pulling the troops out of Syria. Syria, Russia, Turkey...hell, even ISIS...deserve to know. :doh

Just like Saddam deserved to know when Operation Desert Storm was going to happen...just like bin Laden deserved to know when the SEAL Team was coming for him.

Why are American Presidents such IDIOTS!!!??

/s

He should have at least had told his generals and commanders about his intentions to withdraw from Syria. They shouldn't have find that out via Twitter.

 

[Mycroft]

He should have at least had told his generals and commanders about his intentions to withdraw from Syria. They shouldn't have find that out via Twitter.

They've known about his intentions since before he became President.

 

[Atomic Kid]

They've known about his intentions since before he became President.

No they didn't. Trump's own Secretary of State, Pompeo and Secretary of Defense, Mattis had given statements affirming America's commitment to maintain it's presence in Syria just weeks, if not days before he tweeted that we were going to be pulling out. His National Security Chief Bolton had talking points readied and in hand underscoring that same position in preparation for the President's conversation with Erdogan. And then he went rogue. So now it's pretty apparent to our allies and everyone else in the world that there isn't anyone in the US government. Be it the Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, or whomever, that can be said to be truly speaking for the President whenever they are attempting to communicate with us. That's not a good situation. At all.

 

[Dittohead not!]

At a guess, the latest date for finally being out of Syria is June 14. The same date possibly applies to Afghanistan. The same date possibly applies to Korea. The same date possibly applies to Iraq. The same date possibly applies to a US/China trade deal. The same date possibly applies to starting construction of "The Wall".

What's so special about June 14?

Ask Mr. Trump.

It's Trump's birthday. He's working on his want list.

 

[Ikari]

So does this mean that Mr. Trump's announcement that he was going to get American troops out of Syria actually mean that, at some (undefined) point in time, under some (undefined) conditions, he was going (or not going) to have all American forces (more or less) out of (whatever that means) Syria?

Probably, who knows. It's not like the government would really want to end its Infinity War. That makes too much money for their buddies.