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Trump Escalates His Assault on Civil-Military Relations

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Trump Escalates His Assault on Civil-Military Relations

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The president’s public disparagement of retired generals compounds the damage he has done.

1/2/19
We’ve gotten used to so much in Donald Trump’s two years in office, from the cruelty of his immigration policies to his childlike understanding of international trade, and from his apparent fear of Vladimir Putin to his whipsawing of the financial markets. Too many Americans have simply become accustomed to the president’s antics as a normal part of the background noise of their lives. Sometimes Trump’s disjointed thoughts are merely an embarrassment; at other times, he makes dangerous policy changes or wipes out great amounts of wealth in a tweet. Now, however, the president has opened a Pandora’s box by escalating his attacks on senior U.S. military leaders. No American president has ever dared risk the American civil-military relationship for less cause or with such childish malice. American citizens don’t think much about civil-military relations. That’s good: It’s a sign of a healthy polity. We don’t worry about tanks rolling up North Capitol Street or paratroopers lolling about in Lafayette Square. We’re not that kind of country. But the president has taken a dangerous path, excoriating retired military leaders who criticize him and lavishing praise and make-believe pay raises on the active-duty military voters who he believes support him. A precious heritage built on the dual pillars of military obedience to civilians and civilian respect for military professionals is now at severe risk.

From a political standpoint, however, what the president is doing is corrosively dangerous. He is impugning the character and competence of senior U.S. military leaders purely for political reasons. He is making clear that the “smart” generals and admirals are those who support him, and that “dumb” or “failed” officers are those who disagree with him. And he has no compunction about leveling blistering insults—in public—against some of America’s most highly respected military leaders. Yes, presidents have blown their stacks when hearing things they don’t like from their military advisers. And, yes, retired military officers have not helped matters. Many of them have spoken out against Trump, in ways that would have been unthinkable even a decade ago. But it is the president, not the generals and admirals, who have made this unthinkable situation part of the new normal in the Age of Trump. No modern president has been so reckless in his criticism of both active and retired military professionals. When Trump said he knew more than the generals—a laughable claim from almost any civilian when it comes to military affairs—he apparently meant it. And that means he has no respect for military advice, from any direction. This, more than any personal clash, was the clear message in Mattis’s resignation. If Trump continues on this path—and he will—we could face the most politicized and divided military since Vietnam, or even since the Civil War. Generals and admirals could be faced with betraying their professional code either by giving the advice they know will keep them in the good graces of the president or by ignoring the president’s orders and protecting their troops in the field as they think best. The rank and file, meanwhile, will become accustomed to showing up at political rallies where their commander in chief will pander to them and air his grievances against other elected officials, all while they wave banners in uniform and cheer for a growing cult of personality.

I have every confidence the US military can whether this transitory storm. Yet it is but one of the plethora of reasons that Donald Trump must be ushered through the exit door in 2020.
 
There's few American institutions Trump hasn't tried to tear down. He's despicable.
 
President Obama slaughtered senior military command firing anyone who might possibly have disagreed with him.

Trump has criticized ***** ass Obama generals who decided to save their asses and get Americans killed instead of being militarily successful to placate Obama.
 
President Obama slaughtered senior military command firing anyone who might possibly have disagreed with him.

Trump has criticized ***** ass Obama generals who decided to save their asses and get Americans killed instead of being militarily successful to placate Obama.

What a titanic load of crap.

“Slaughtered”? Really bud? Could you be any more hysterical?

Since apparently you think people who have served their country with honor for decades are “******s”.......what, exactly, have you done for this country?

Do you have any evidence that Obama wanted to see Americans get killed rather than be successful?
 
President Obama slaughtered senior military command firing anyone who might possibly have disagreed with him.

Trump has criticized ***** ass Obama generals who decided to save their asses and get Americans killed instead of being militarily successful to placate Obama.

By Post #3 --- Obama whataboutism
 
President Obama slaughtered senior military command firing anyone who might possibly have disagreed with him.

Trump has criticized ***** ass Obama generals who decided to save their asses and get Americans killed instead of being militarily successful to placate Obama.


The Right specializes in flash in the pan and hit and run statements of a sensational nature that it hopes leave the desired impression. While the Right can wind up their tall tale stories at rightwing media the right can only hit and run at more centrist and middle of the road media where they get challenged and taken down. So the facts are here for all to see...


Did President Obama Really Purge the Military?

Let me take you back to the heady days of October, 2013. And a list was making its way around conspiracy theory and ultra-conservative websites: a list of generals and admirals President Obama had "fired" as part of a massive purge of the military.

The purpose of this purge tended to vary depending on what the source of the list was. For ultra-conservative websites like World Net Daily and Breitbart, it was because the officers had dared express dissent against a President who hates America, and in particularly, hates the men and women of the Armed Forces. For conspiracy-driven sites like Before It's News and Infowars, it was because Obama was on the verge of declaring martial law and these officers wouldn't participate in the killing of American citizens.

We've seen in many other circumstances how conspiracy theorists love to make lists of people related to some kind of catastrophe. And a President liquidating the leadership of his military to make way for a fascist takeover would indeed be a catastrophe. But is that what happened with these officers? Let's take a look at the list, and the exact reasons each officer was "fired" — and indeed, if they were at all.

There are actually two lists that have been going around, one of nine officers and the other of over 200 supposedly fired by President Obama during his entire presidency. Any list of 200 people falls squarely in the Gish Gallop category, so we're going to put that aside for now and just focus on the list of nine. Contrary to the allegations that the firings were covered up, I easily found information on each one from a mainstream news site
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https://skeptoid.com/blog/2014/03/24/president-obama-purge-military/


Interestingly Trump has stayed away from removing flag officers for misconduct. Trump left that chore to Mattis and Mattis' discretion and judgement. Now however Mattis has resigned. Yet Trump in his latest seizure of ignorance says he "fired" Mattis which indicates how scared Trump is about his own job.
 
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