Trump Encourages Racist Conspiracy Theory About Kamala Harris

[ReubenSherr]

Trump Encourages Racist Conspiracy Theory About Kamala Harris

As is obvious and anticipated, Birtherism conspiracy theory is still alive and thriving in the racist mind of Donald Trump and his ilk.

People, there is nothing racist about claiming someone was not born in America.

Most black Americans were born here, there is no stereotype that black Americans were born abroad.

I have no idea where this accusation came from, or why Trump is touting it, but it is not racist.

And stating it is racist is fraudulent.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

People, there is nothing racist about claiming someone was not born in America.

Most black Americans were born here, there is no stereotype that black Americans aren’t Americans.

I have no idea where this accusation came from, but it is not racist.

And stating it is racist is fraudulent.

Just purely coincidence that Trump happens to question the first two major Black Americans to make this kind of history, eh Reub?

 

[jpn]

People, there is nothing racist about claiming someone was not born in America.
Most black Americans were born here, there is no stereotype that black Americans were born abroad.
I have no idea where this accusation came from, or why Trump is touting it, but it is not racist.
And stating it is racist is fraudulent.

Oh yeah, it was just a coincidence that the first president to have his origins questioned was black. And the person questioning him just happens to constantly use racist language and counts racists as his "base."

Nothing to see here, folks, just move along.

 

[ReubenSherr]

Just purely coincidence that Trump happens to question the first two major Black Americans to make this kind of history, eh Reub?

Auntie, Trump didn’t create the accusation.

Racist Hillary, remember, created the birtherism accusation against Obama. And as far as I know, a white liberal may have something to do with this accusation. Unless you have evidence of its origin.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Auntie, Trump didn’t create the accusation.

Racist Hillary, remember created the birtherism accusation against Obama.

He ran on it. His supporters voted for him because of it, otherwise he wouldn’t have run on it. Don’t blame Trump’s racism on But, Hillary! Her racism doesn’t get him off the hook. He’s the swamp drainer, Reub.

 

[ReubenSherr]

Oh yeah, it was just a coincidence that the first president to have his origins questioned was black. And the person questioning him just happens to constantly use racist language and counts racists as his "base."

The person questioning Obama’s origins was Hillary Clinton.

Hillary created the accusation against Obama.

Perfect example of how you all twist facts to try to paint Trump as racist.

And Trump does not count racists as his base. Jeff Potatohead Zucker essentially created this narrative himself, and has been drilling it for years.

Gloves are off, here.

 

[roguenuke]

Auntie, Trump didn’t create the accusation.

Racist Hillary, remember, created the birtherism accusation against Obama. And as far as I know, a white liberal may have something to do with this accusation. Unless you have evidence of its origin.

No she didn't. That would be another lie that is spread by Trump supporters.

Did Clinton Supporters Start the 'Birther' Movement?

We investigate claims that the conspiracy theory about Barack Obama not being born in the U.S. originated with Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign.

www.snopes.com

Hillary herself never even mentioned it. Someone in her campaign was caught spreading the rumor, but she did not say it, spread it herself, nor was the campaign person even responsible for the first rumblings of the rumor.

Trump's False claim Clinton started Obama birther talk

Donald Trump repeated his debunked claim that Hillary Clinton started the rumors questioning whether President Barack Ob

www.politifact.com

 

[Aunt Antifa]

The person questioning Obama’s origins was Hillary Clinton.

Hillary created the accusation against Obama.

Perfect example of how you all twist facts to try to paint Trump as racist.

And Trump does not count racists as his base. Jeff Potatohead Zucker essentially created this narrative himself, and has been drilling it for years.

Gloves are off, here.

Are you saying Donald Trump was not a birther, Reub? Is that what you’re claiming?

 

[ReubenSherr]

No she didn't. That would be another lie that is spread by Trump supporters.

Did Clinton Supporters Start the 'Birther' Movement?

We investigate claims that the conspiracy theory about Barack Obama not being born in the U.S. originated with Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign.

www.snopes.com

Hillary herself never even mentioned it. Someone in her campaign was caught spreading the rumor, but she did not say it, spread it herself, nor was the campaign person even responsible for the first rumblings of the rumor.

Someone in Hillary’s campaign originated the rumor.

The buck stops here, correct?

It happened on Hillary’s watch.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Oh yeah, it was just a coincidence that the first president to have his origins questioned was black. And the person questioning him just happens to constantly use racist language and counts racists as his "base."

Nothing to see here, folks, just move along.

Why does he think the Clinton smear proves Trump didn’t say the words he said? What am I missing with that?

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Someone in Hillary’s campaign originated the rumor.

The buck stops here, correct?

It happened on Hillary’s watch.

Nope. Republican governors are to blame.

 

[ReubenSherr]

Are you saying Donald Trump was not a birther, Reub? Is that what you’re claiming?

No, and you know it.

Little Auntie.

 

[ReubenSherr]

Why does he think the Clinton smear proves Trump didn’t say the words he said? What am I missing with that?

You aren’t getting it.

You are trying to prove Trump is racist.

And committing fraud in doing so.

Hillary’s campaign used the same words Trump did.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

No, and you know it.

Little Auntie.

So you agree he’s a birther then and used that racist smear?

(Funny you won’t call me Aunt Jamima in this thread, Mr Gloves Are Off. It’s almost like you’re admitting you have been using a racist smear.)

 

[Aunt Antifa]

You aren’t getting it.

You are trying to prove Trump is racist.

And committing fraud in doing so.

Wait. So now you are saying Trump didn’t use the racist birther smear?

 

[roguenuke]

Someone in Hillary’s campaign originated the rumor.

The buck stops here, correct?

It happened on Hillary’s watch.

Again, no they didn't. That is again, a rumor started by right wing websites.

Some Clinton supporters did spread the rumor via email, but they were not the first to come up with it. Snopes covers that.

And you said Clinton did it. The campaign worker who was caught spreading it was fired. That is stopping the buck there. She can't do a damn thing about supporters passing it around. She didn't spread it, unlike Trump who absolutely did.

 

[ReubenSherr]

Again, no they didn't. That is again, a rumor started by right wing websites.

Some Clinton supporters did spread the rumor via email, but they were not the first to come up with it. Snopes covers that.

And you said Clinton did it. The campaign worker who was caught spreading it was fired. That is stopping the buck there. She can't do a damn thing about supporters passing it around. She didn't spread it, unlike Trump who absolutely did.

Her campaign manager claimed Hillary gave the go ahead to let the person go.

This was all after the story broke, however. So it could have been damage control after the fact.

Bottom line is, though, regarding Trump, he simply picked up on a story spread by Clinton campaign staffers. There is no evidence that there was any racist motivation in any of this.

 

[roguenuke]

Do you have a link verifying that the Hillary campaign worker who was caught spreading the rumor was fired, per Hillary?

Are you saying if she didn't personally decide to fire the person (likely because someone else made that decision first), then she is still to blame? If someone is caught stealing from a company or violating company policy in a way that harms others, if they are not personally the ones who fired them, are they to be held accountable for anything done by that person even if it was rules in place, or at least good management decisions that got the person fired?

 

[Deuce]

How is that racist?

Because right wingers only do this with people of color.

 

[ReubenSherr]

Are you saying if she didn't personally decide to fire the person (likely because someone else made that decision first), then she is still to blame? If someone is caught stealing from a company or violating company policy in a way that harms others, if they are not personally the ones who fired them, are they to be held accountable for anything done by that person even if it was rules in place, or at least good management decisions that got the person fired?

No, but whether Hillary was involved before the employee was fired isn't really relevant here.

Trump, as a private citizen, picked up on an accusation started by Clinton campaign staffers.

There is zero evidence that it was in any way racially motivated.

 

[Deuce]

People, there is nothing racist about claiming someone was not born in America.

Most black Americans were born here, there is no stereotype that black Americans were born abroad.

I have no idea where this accusation came from, or why Trump is touting it, but it is not racist.

And stating it is racist is fraudulent.

You think it’s a coincidence that right wingers do this with people of color exclusively?

 

[jpn]

The person questioning Obama’s origins was Hillary Clinton.
Hillary created the accusation against Obama.
Perfect example of how you all twist facts to try to paint Trump as racist.
And Trump does not count racists as his base. Jeff Potatohead Zucker essentially created this narrative himself, and has been drilling it for years.
Gloves are off, here.

Oh, so it wasn't Trump? Huh. I could have sworn Trump questioned Obama's birthplace for years prior to the election and all during the election. How about that.

No, Clinton didn't start the birther thing. This guy did.​

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Despite what Trump says, the 2008 Clinton campaign and the candidate herself never trafficked in the rumors.​

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After years of denying the legitimacy of Barack Obama’s presidency, it was only in the midst of his own presidential campaign that Donald Trump began falsely claiming Hillary Clinton was the true progenitor of the “birther” conspiracy theory claiming Obama was not born in the United States.​

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But that’s swapping one discredited claim for another. Numerous fact checks, reports and interviews — in 2008 and 2011, when Trump revived the controversy — revealed that although some Clinton supporters circulated rumors about Obama’s citizenship, the campaign and Clinton herself never trafficked in it.​

Gloves are off? I'd settle for a little truth from you. Just for a change.

 

[ludin]

Trump Encourages Racist Conspiracy Theory About Kamala Harris

As is obvious and anticipated, Birtherism conspiracy theory is still alive and thriving in the racist mind of Donald Trump and his ilk.

Not reading your own articles again are you?

nope.

 

[ludin]

The person questioning Obama’s origins was Hillary Clinton.

Hillary created the accusation against Obama.

Perfect example of how you all twist facts to try to paint Trump as racist.

And Trump does not count racists as his base. Jeff Potatohead Zucker essentially created this narrative himself, and has been drilling it for years.

Gloves are off, here.

Actually it was hillary clinton supporters. one went as far as filling a federal lawsuit against him. it got thrown out in court.
said he didn't have standing which is the courts cop out excuse on anything they don't want to deal with.

 

[roguenuke]

No, but whether Hillary was involved before the employee was fired isn't really relevant here.

Trump, as a private citizen, picked up on an accusation started by Clinton campaign staffers.

There is zero evidence that it was in any way racially motivated.

No. He picked up an accusation started by other people on right wing blogs.

From the Snopes article above.

"The likeliest point of origin we’ve been able to find was a post on conservative message board FreeRepublic.com dated 1 March 2008 (which, according to a report in The Telegraph, was at least a month before Clinton supporters got on the e-mail bandwagon): "

And Trump continued with the accusations even well after they were debunked as false. He even continued with them as he ran for President, which would put him in the same spot as Hillary was when her one staffer spread an email, except he was spreading them until just before his election in 2016.

After Promoting Birther Movement, Trump Admits Obama Was Born In U.S.

After years of promoting conspiracies that President Obama was not born in the U.S., GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump on Friday conceded that the president was born in this country.

www.npr.org