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Trump discussed hacked emails with Roger Stone

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Trump says he didn't discuss hacked emails with Roger Stone. A bipartisan Senate report says he did.

The report says the Intelligence Committee assessed that Trump discussed hacked emails with Stone — even though Trump told Robert Mueller he didn't recall doing so.

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8/18/20
WASHINGTON — In a thousand-page bipartisan report released Tuesday, the Senate Intelligence Committee painted a stark portrait of a Trump campaign eager to accept help from a foreign power in 2016, as well as a candidate closely involved in the effort. The Senate report, the most detailed account to date of the Trump campaign's embrace of Russian election interference, also asserted that the allegations that Ukraine interfered in the election — which President Donald Trump perpetuated — originated with Russian intelligence agencies. The report, which the committee's Republican majority approved, said the committee assessed that the president discussed hacked emails with his longtime associate Roger Stone — even though Trump told special counsel Robert Mueller that he didn't recall having done so. The report highlighted some never-before-seen evidence about Trump and Russia, including three allegations of potentially compromising material relating to Trump's private trips to Russia that were unconnected to the dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele. "Separate from Steele's memos, which the Committee did not use for support, the Committee became aware of three general sets of allegations" involving women, the report said, two of which described a tape.

The committee endorsed the view of Mueller and the Stone prosecution team that the Trump campaign eagerly embraced Russian help in 2016 and considered the hacked emails its "October surprise," even though campaign officials knew the material had been stolen by Russian intelligence. "While the GRU and WikiLeaks were releasing hacked documents, the Trump Campaign sought to maximize the impact of those materials to aid Trump's electoral prospects," the report said. "To do so, the Trump campaign took actions to obtain advance notice about WikiLeaks releases of Clinton emails; took steps to obtain inside information about the content of releases once WikiLeaks began to publish stolen information; created messaging strategies to promote and share the materials in anticipation of and following their release; and encouraged further theft of information and continued leaks." The report said Manafort associate Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian intelligence officer, "almost certainly helped arrange some of the first public messaging that Ukraine had interfered in the U.S. election." In 2017, the report said, "other Russian-government proxies and personas worked to spread the false narrative that Ukraine interfered in the U.S. election."

A damming report by the GOP majority Senate Intelligence Committee.

In stark contrast, a partisan 'investigation' by GOP Senator Ron Johnson (Chairman/Homeland Security Committee) is willfully seeking/receiving disinformation from known Russian intelligence agents in Ukraine.

Related: Bipartisan Senate report says 2017 intel assessment about Russian interference and Trump was accurate
 
So, basically, the President is a scumbag.
 
Trump was willing to accept “help” from Russia. On the other side of the race we had Clinton and the DNC paying for Russian help in hurting Trump.

Why do Democrats never mention the Clinton side? Why is her active pursuit of Russian intel regarding her opponent never considered problematic while Trump’s passive acceptance of whatever Russia came up with treated like its treason?
 
The Intel Comm is showing is all that Trump has gotten away with, this pile of **** he will build upon going forward to do more because nobody is doing anything about it.
 
Trump was willing to accept “help” from Russia. On the other side of the race we had Clinton and the DNC paying for Russian help in hurting Trump.

Why do Democrats never mention the Clinton side? Why is her active pursuit of Russian intel regarding her opponent never considered problematic while Trump’s passive acceptance of whatever Russia came up with treated like its treason?


Your use of quotation marks when referencing the Trump campaign bag of tricks is telling. Has anyone on the Clinton campaign been linked to the GRU, yet?
 
Your use of quotation marks when referencing the Trump campaign bag of tricks is telling. Has anyone on the Clinton campaign been linked to the GRU, yet?

Well the reason for the quotes is that 4 years down the road there has been ZERO quantification of what the "help" was. The DNC emails looked bad for the party but didn't really say anything we didn't know about Clinton and the Podesta emails showed more about the media than they did Clinton. I have seen no analysis whatsoever concerning the effect of the social media campaign on the the electorate and there's probably a good reason for that. We don't see that kind of stuff because Russia was primarily trying to sow discord more than they were trying to hurt Clinton. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that if someone chose to look they'd find that the Russians "helped" Clinton just as much as they did Trump.
 
Well the reason for the quotes is that 4 years down the road there has been ZERO quantification of what the "help" was. The DNC emails looked bad for the party but didn't really say anything we didn't know about Clinton and the Podesta emails showed more about the media than they did Clinton. I have seen no analysis whatsoever concerning the effect of the social media campaign on the the electorate and there's probably a good reason for that. We don't see that kind of stuff because Russia was primarily trying to sow discord more than they were trying to hurt Clinton. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that if someone chose to look they'd find that the Russians "helped" Clinton just as much as they did Trump.

Has anyone on the Clinton campaign been linked to the GRU, yet?
 
I have to laugh at the shown hypocrisy in this thread. The allegations are flowing that Trump accepted help from the Russians.... You mean to tell me that Trump asked the Russians for the dossier?
 
Trump was willing to accept “help” from Russia. On the other side of the race we had Clinton and the DNC paying for Russian help in hurting Trump.

Why do Democrats never mention the Clinton side? Why is her active pursuit of Russian intel regarding her opponent never considered problematic while Trump’s passive acceptance of whatever Russia came up with treated like its treason?

Raises hand... I know why.
Because if they mentioned the Clinton side, and I mean all of them who were in on digging up salacious Trump dirt via the Russians, it would blow their phony narrative out of the sky.
 
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