So, in other words....
Hit me back when you can...until then, I'm not sure you're up for this whole online debate thing....
No, you're the one in denial. I'm the guy over here laughing at you from behind the history books. We'll survive Trump if he wins...thankfully we don't live in your shithole of a country. In fact, I'd say my chances of surviving are better than yours, whether he wins OR loses.
PS: Lincoln and Marx were buds.
www.aier.org
and the right does the same thing. Had Obama donned a suit with an S in the front and a cape, flown to the Middle East and united all of those warring nations in a lasting peace, the right wing would simply have said that the S stands for "socialism" and he didn't do it right anyway.
Actual Lincoln Death, April 15, 1865
Marx Death March 14, 1883
Care to explain how Lincoln communicated with Marx and how his Das Kapital affected Lincoln? You have a very selective memory of Marx fitting your very selective understanding of liberalism and liberal results. It is obvious that different times meant different reaction, the state of our Union was in jeopardy and the only similarity between Marx and Lincoln. Railing against Disloyal citizens bent on destroying this nation and not creating a Marxist model is something you want to ignore
Lincoln freed the slaves and united the country, Marx created an ideology that fostered communism. Hard to imagine Marx promoting Freedom and it is hard to believe Lincoln even knew Marx
Was Lincoln Really Into Marx?
Despite the Washington Post's claims of a transatlantic friendship, there's no evidence that Abraham Lincoln even knew - or cared - who Karl Marx was.
Well, yeah, I've been more interested in the great number of articles I've been reading that supports the influence Marx had on the Republican's greatest president. But I'm sure your little article from the right leaning American Institute for Economic Research is adorable.
By the way...do you like the new addition to my signature? Personally, given Lincoln's clear Marxist influence, I think Karl Marx should have a monument....somewhere in Washington would be appropriate.
I think we're done. Good chat as always, Conservative. See you tomorrow.
Hey, man, that's cool on two fronts. First, I don't take you seriously either, and second, you should be able to vote for whoever you want. I fully support that. But you'll have to excuse me if I laugh you out of the room for saying today's Republican looks anything like the dead men you guys take so much pride in. You're the polar opposite, and your best days are long behind you, while the people you rail against look a hell of a lot more like the folks you claim to admire than you do.
But, yeah, you do you, bud...free country, and all of that...for now, though Trump seems to be doing his best to change that... I'm just trying to help you understand why folks don't take you seriously...not in your own country, and not anywhere else in the world. Your current policies are an abortion of everything the original Republicans stood for. You don't get to claim any kind of lineage or pedigree, you're not even a bad imitation. You're something else entirely. You're the radicals, not the left. They sound much more like the great men of your past. Understanding your own history would make that abundantly clear....perhaps that's why so many modern day Republicans tend to scorn education, and why Trump prefers them uneducated.
Anyway...
I'd give him credit if someone could show any evidence Trump did anything significant here.
I support police reform and opening conversations. I support following science advice on the environment and covid19. I support not paying for private schools with public school money, especially not religious schools. I support not building a wall with military funds, or at all. I support legalizing and regulating marijuana. I dont support spreading ridiculous Conspiracy theories about a war on Christmas or Christians, and keeping both Roe v Wade and all SCOTUS decisions involving gay rights in tact.
Seeing as how hard your people are suffering from the pandemic. I don't think you have much room to talk.
A president, political leader, or anyone for that matter. Has no control, over who decides to support them.
The same is true for Biden. He has condemned the violence or radicals of any group supporting him that he should. At least as much as Trump has. Neither has nor should be obligated to specifically condemn every single possible radical that supports them.
I'm saying I dont care why those unions are supporting Trump. All police aren't.
No, to my knowledge Biden hasn't actually condemned a group. He's just spoken out against the violence and did not take the chance to name names.
And some see things Trump does or doesn't do as an issue. Trump offered to pay the fees/penalties of those who hit/attacked protestors at his rallies. He has no issue with promoting violence on his behalf.
Don't be ridiculous. In my lifetime we have had a succession of Tory and Labour governments-and the worst misery happened under the loathsome Margaret Thatcher; record unemployment, record inflation, the loss of our steel, shipbuilding and coal mining industries, the oppressive 'community charge' (Poll Tax), which led to her downfall. You need to get off your binary horse and smell the coffee.
www.politicshome.com