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Trump commutes sentence of longtime adviser Roger Stone

Seems awfully strange how many people went down for lying and trying to thwart investigations into this, with Mueller later scratching only the surface and finding "nothing." Something doesn't gel. Clearly, Trump's closest circle knew enough to lie about it in order to protect Trump from something. Perhaps another ally in this was Mueller. Or perhaps Mueller's scope was just far too narrow.

Walks like a duck, talks like a duck, looks like a duck, smells like a duck, might be an ardvarke? Is that the Trump line?
 
Witness tampering is a process crime?

Yes. It is a crime against the judicial process. It is, by definition, a process crime.

In the case of the Stone charge, the witness in question testified for the defense and said they didn't consider it intimidation.
 
So says the guy who supported locking up Hillary Clinton because..., who supports Barr investigating anyone who challenges Trump and who is purging the Justice Department of anyone who isn’t a Trump loyalist.

You are on the wrong side and you don’t even know it.

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Not a terribly bright post. If as you say the verdict had been overruled on appeal then why was Stone granted clemency?

That is the way the judicial system works under American laws. Peter Limone's sentence was commuted 33 years after he was illegally framed by the FBI for a murder he did not commit, in spite of Robert Mueller's efforts to keep him locked up for the last 10 years of his imprisonment. Was he ever guilty of the crime? No. Why was he then not pardoned? I cannot tell you, but I do know the US government paid him and three others over $100 million in damages for what the FBI and Mueller, among others, did to them.

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actually, it does matter. I put more stock in what 12 people all have come to agreement on...than on what Trump says.

Legal experts have pointed out that the prosecution of Stone involved prosecutorial misconduct and highly partisan bias on the part of the prosecutor and jury. The case should have been thrown out before it ended for that reason.

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so, you think Trump is God? btw, he doesn't have the power to release state prisoners.

No, Trump is not God. In America the Constitution rules over men, even those who pervert justice and judgment for crooked reasons.

Help rid our judicial system of crooked partisan bias. Vote republican in 2020.
 
Your deduction is 100% wrong my friend. In today's WAPO there's a scathing OP-ED from Robert Mueller reminding all of us of the crimes that Stone committed. Read this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/11/mueller-stone-oped/?arc404=true

From the piece:

"I feel compelled to respond both to broad claims that our investigation was illegitimate and our motives were improper, and to specific claims that Roger Stone was a victim of our office. The Russia investigation was of paramount importance. Stone was prosecuted and convicted because he committed federal crimes. He remains a convicted felon, and rightly so."

And:
"Stone became a central figure in our investigation for two key reasons: He communicated in 2016 with individuals known to us to be Russian intelligence officers, and he claimed advance knowledge of WikiLeaks’ release of emails stolen by those Russian intelligence officers."

The truth is still the truth no matter what lies from Trump you believe.

Mueller is a dummass partisan hack. He spent years trying to frame Trump for a crime which did not exist and nobody committed. He charged Stone for obstructing his dummass investigation into a crime that did not exist and nobody committed. His word is crap. Of course he wants to support the lying accusations he leveled against innocent republicans in his hateful illegitimate drive to take down President Trump. To hell with all the dogs and their sedition and devotion to the crooked democrat party at the expense of truth and righteousness in justice and judgment.

Help restore honesty, integrity and good judgment to our judicial processes. Vote republican in 2020.
 
Love it.

Lefts salty tears taste sooooo good.
 
You're 100% right politicians of all stripes have lied, cheated, broke the law, have done horrible things but add all of the previous sins of all politicians and you won't get to 25% of Trump's evilness and sins. Trump is just a national nightmare who history will destroy.

In spite of whatever problems Trump may have, he is still our best hope of preventing these morons from seizing control of the country.

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In spite of whatever problems Trump may have, he is still our best hope of preventing these morons from seizing control of the country.

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Help stop democrat efforts to replace the free market with socialism. Vote republican in 2020.

Your fear of the opposition is irrational. That you would settle for Trump, who is dragging us through a pandemic with double digit unemployment rate, proves it.
 
could the green light for foreign countries to interfere in our elections on his behalf shine any brighter?
 
Love it.

Lefts salty tears taste sooooo good.

Your fear of the opposition is irrational. That you would settle for Trump, who is dragging us through a pandemic with double digit unemployment rate, proves it.

Really, you all should really try standing FOR something. Loving corruption and incompetence because you fear the left is a pretty shoddy hill to die on. and history has shown us, it seldom ends well.
 
Trump believes he and his buddies are above the law. If the Right believes Stones get out of jail card will not have political ramifications with Indies they are sadly mistaken.

The election is Biden's too loose.
 
Your fear of the opposition is irrational. That you would settle for Trump, who is dragging us through a pandemic with double digit unemployment rate, proves it.

Americans would have to be really stupid to blame the shutdowns and economic depression on Trump.

Help save America from the democrat fears and violence which are destroying this country with support from leading democrat politicians. Vote to replace the uncivilized democrats with hard-working, reasonable, responsible republicans.
 
Americans would have to be really stupid to blame the shutdowns and economic depression on Trump.

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Correction: Republicans would have to be really stupid to believe the shutdowns and economic depression wont tar them and Trump.
 
could the green light for foreign countries to interfere in our elections on his behalf shine any brighter?

If you had been paying attention you would have noticed that Obama officials hid evidence that foreigners were working the 2016 election in Hillary's favor.

Help stop the lying and deceit of crooked politicians trashing America in order to get themselves dishonestly elected. Vote republican in 2020.
 
If you had been paying attention you would have noticed that Obama officials hid evidence that foreigners were working the 2016 election in Hillary's favor.
That's a lie.
 
Correction: Republicans would have to be really stupid to deny the shutdowns and economic depression wont tar them and Trump.

I don't deny that the violence and shutdowns promoted by democrats have somehow tarnished Trump in the minds of stupid Americans.

Help save America from dirty politicians who promote lying narratives for selfish political purposes at the expense of the safety, health and security of the whole nation. Vote republican in 2020.

 
I don't deny that the violence and shutdowns promoted by democrats have somehow tarnished Trump in the minds of stupid Americans.
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I suggest hurrying up and sending Trump your fawning response before it gets lost in the noise.
 
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I suggest hurrying up and sending Trump your fawning response before it gets lost in the noise.

We can elect Trump to defend America from all enemies both foreign and domestic or we can elect someone like Biden who will sell America out to the highest bidder like he did in Ukraine and in China.

Remember Burisma? Ukraine Investigators Seize $6 Million U.S. Cash As Bribe To Stop Investigation - Gregg Jarrett

Ukraine exposes attempt to bribe government officials to stop investigation.


Help expose and condemn crooked politicians, not elect them to take president Trump's place.


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