The Soviets are the ones who did the bulk of the work in defeating the Nazis, yes.Dumbo has a video claiming Russia lost 51 million people in WWII. Tell me he is not the most ignorant rodent to ever occupy the Oval Office. He has said he hates to read. Well fine but being ignorant as a result is no reason to open his little square mouth to verify it. Add the fact that England shared in beating Hitler but not according to Fozzy Bear.
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Operation Bagration, that most Americans never heard of, was the Soviet Union pushing Germany back across Eastern Europe and was one of the biggest battles in history.20-22 million or so in military deaths, to the extent they kept records.
Dumbo has a video claiming Russia lost 51 million people in WWII. Tell me he is not the most ignorant rodent to ever occupy the Oval Office. He has said he hates to read. Well fine but being ignorant as a result is no reason to open his little square mouth to verify it. Add the fact that England shared in beating Hitler but not according to Fozzy Bear.
Watch: Donald Trump ignores Britain as he claims the US ‘won World War II’
President Donald Trump ignored Britain's contribution as he claimed the United States 'won World War II. While responding to a question about his military parade on Flag Day, he began recounting conversations he'd had with various world leaders celebrating VE Day. He gave some credit to Russia...www.yahoo.com
More like the bulk of the dying.The Soviets are the ones who did the bulk of the work in defeating the Nazis, yes.
"It is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt".Dumbo has a video claiming Russia lost 51 million people in WWII. Tell me he is not the most ignorant rodent to ever occupy the Oval Office. He has said he hates to read. Well fine but being ignorant as a result is no reason to open his little square mouth to verify it. Add the fact that England shared in beating Hitler but not according to Fozzy Bear.
Watch: Donald Trump ignores Britain as he claims the US ‘won World War II’
President Donald Trump ignored Britain's contribution as he claimed the United States 'won World War II. While responding to a question about his military parade on Flag Day, he began recounting conversations he'd had with various world leaders celebrating VE Day. He gave some credit to Russia...www.yahoo.com
Bulk of the killing. 80% of German casualties were on the Eastern Front.More like the bulk of the dying.
And a fine job they did.More like the bulk of the dying.
The three year war with Ukraine is nearing one million casualties compared to WWII losses shows the world went mad.Operation Bagration, that most Americans never heard of, was the Soviet Union pushing Germany back across Eastern Europe and was one of the biggest battles in history.
While the Brits and Yanks were racing to get the glory of liberating Paris the Soviets were taking Berlin. Imagine what that was like, the fighting in those streets
Given they were fighting the vast majority of the Nazi military and their pals, that doesn’t say much.More like the bulk of the dying.
If you totally ignore industry and tech, and forget the fact that they were allied with Nazi Germany in 1939 and jointly started the war in Europe, you'd probably calculate they won 80% of the war.Bulk of the killing. 80% of German casualties were on the Eastern Front.
Go ahead, take credit for half of what's left. 10%.
80% of German casualties. Don't try to weasel-word away from that. 80% is nearly all- nearly all Germans were killed on the Eastern Front.If you totally ignore industry and tech, and forget the fact that they were allied with Nazi Germany in 1939 and jointly started the war in Europe, you'd probably calculate they won 80% of the war.
The Russian citizens were brutalized by the Nazis especially the women. When the Russians conquered towns in Germany they returned the brutality with added bonuses.Given they were fighting the vast majority of the Nazi military and their pals, that doesn’t say much.
The US, meanwhile, was up against garrison units and units pulled out of the USSR to recover from the ass kicking they’d gotten....and still struggled immensely
Tech? The Soviets’ tanks were top notch. The Tiger and Panther were designed to counter the T-34, and the IS-2 was better than anything the US had.If you totally ignore industry and tech, and forget the fact that they were allied with Nazi Germany in 1939 and jointly started the war in Europe, you'd probably calculate they won 80% of the war.
The Western allies were fighting against Germany long before the USSR even got involved against them, even back when the USSR was still Nazi Germany's military ally jointly waging war against Poland.Given they were fighting the vast majority of the Nazi military and their pals, that doesn’t say much.
The US, meanwhile, was up against garrison units and units pulled out of the USSR to recover from the ass kicking they’d gotten....and still struggled immensely
No weaseling out of anything. If you like your 80% statistic because it's a nice, simple number you can wrap your mind around without thinking too hard, then by all means, enjoy!80% of German casualties. Don't try to weasel-word away from that. 80% is nearly all- nearly all Germans were killed on the Eastern Front.
Your schools taught you a version of history that wasn't designed to inform you, it was designed to make you proud and loyal.
Weasel-words. Nearly all the Germans killed in WW2 were killed on the Eastern Front.The Western allies were fighting against Germany long before the USSR even got involved against them, even back when the USSR was still Nazi Germany's military ally jointly waging war against Poland.
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Unlike the USSR and their reliance on meat assaults, the West had brains and relied more heavily on tech and industry to tie up Germany resources and destroy German equipment (this is a bit harder to calculate than going off a single number like casualties, so don't bother). Russia's casualties would have been even greater (and it's likely they would have given up like they did in WWI) if they didn't get enormous industrial support from the West not just in terms of trucks and tanks, but also in simple stuff they should have had plenty of like blankets and food.
No they weren’t. The Soviets spent five years trying to build a “popular front” against the Germans in the interwar period. Soviet advisors were fighting against the Nazis in Spain long before the West belatedly decided to go to war.The Western allies were fighting against Germany long before the USSR even got involved against them, even back when the USSR was still Nazi Germany's military ally jointly waging war against Poland.
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Unlike the USSR and their reliance on meat assaults, the West had brains and relied more heavily on tech and industry to tie up Germany resources and destroy German equipment (this is a bit harder to calculate than going off a single number like casualties, so don't bother). Russia's casualties would have been even greater (and it's likely they would have given up like they did in WWI) if they didn't get enormous industrial support from the West not just in terms of trucks and tanks, but also in simple stuff they should have had plenty of like blankets and food.
The casualties tell a different story. The Soviet Union lost more in military casualties alone than Germany managed to exterminate Jewish prisoners in literal death camps. Even Stalin figured it out.Tech? The Soviets’ tanks were top notch. The Tiger and Panther were designed to counter the T-34, and the IS-2 was better than anything the US had.
"I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war," Stalin said. "The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war."
Look it up. Google it.No weaseling out of anything. If you like your 80% statistic because it's a nice, simple number you can wrap your mind around without thinking too hard, then by all means, enjoy!
Gee dude, given the German habit of executing captured or wounded Soviet POWs, that’s not a huge shock. American losses would have been much higher if they’d been facing the bulk of the German military and such policies.The casualties tell a different story. The Soviet Union lost more in military casualties alone than Germany managed to exterminate Jewish prisoners in literal death camps. Even Stalin figured it out.
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Ever since the Cold War, many Soviet and Russian politicians and academics have downplayed the role that U.S.-provided weapons and supplies played in the Red Army's ultimately victorious campaign against Hitler's Germany. But there is substantial evidence that the huge influx of materiel made an...www.rferl.org
Vladimir Putin was born on October 7, 1952.
Take a look at the bizarre moment Donald Trump appears to claim Vladimir Putin fought in WWII in a White House press conference on Thursday (June 12).
In his latest nonsensical numerical ramblings Trump claimed Russia lost 51 million people during WWII however researchers estimate the actual number to be closer to 27 million.
Trump went on to say he couldn't understand why others who fought in WWII were so beloved yet Russia is so hated.
Trump said, "He lost 51 million people, and he did fight... sort of interesting isn't it, he fought with us in WWII and everybody hates him, and Germany and Japan their fine... some day somebody will explain that."
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