Trump Changes Direction (1 Viewer)

[rickc]

First on tarrifs: Did the bond market end Trump's tarrifs?

Second on deportations: Have business people convinced we need that immigrant labor?

 

[upsideguy]

First on tarrifs: Did the bond market end Trump's tarrifs?

Second on deportations: Have business people convinced we need that immigrant labor?

Who knows? Who can seriously answer this poll? What is really happening? Where is America going?

If Trump were Columbus, America would still have not have been "discovered", unless of course the crew did the only think they could for self preservation and mutinied......

He is going to profiled and discussed for generations in management leadership classes as the quintessential poor leader: ignorant, surrounds himself with 'yes men', puts no work into considering options and their consequences, prone to poor and rash decision-making, operates from emotion, inability to accept criticism, lack of humility, poor vision, inability to articulate objectives so that his people have clear direction and can sell the vision to their subordinates. This may be the poorest example of leadership (or the best example of poor leadership) I have ever seen.

 

[Fletch]

First on tarrifs: Did the bond market end Trump's tarrifs?

Second on deportations: Have business people convinced we need that immigrant labor?

No and no. Trump is counting on tariff revenue to help pay for the tax cuts he wants. Many will vanish but a baseline 10% tariff on everything will remain.

 

[Gozaburo]

First on tarrifs: Did the bond market end Trump's tarrifs?

Second on deportations: Have business people convinced we need that immigrant labor?

Imagine thinking mass deportations and a coherent tariff/industrial policy were ever honest platforms of Trump's administration lmao.

Millions of gullible rubes just got rug pulled and they'll spend the next three-and-a-half years coping about how a government of pop culture figures and reality TV personalities is actually capable of coherent governing.

 

[j brown's body]

No and no. Trump is counting on tariff revenue to help pay for the tax cuts he wants. Many will vanish but a baseline 10% tariff on everything will remain.

Isn't cutting the programs that help everyday people going to cover the tax cuts for the rich?

 

[BabaVoss]

Trump Changes Direction?​

Routinely. Because he has no idea what the hell he is doing. I suspect he enjoys making the world cringe on a daily basis.

 

[Fletch]

Isn't cutting the programs that help everyday people going to cover the tax cuts for the rich?

What programs are being cut?

 

[rickc]

What programs are being cut?

You really need to change your information sources.

Do a little research.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Triggered responses forthcoming.

Something like:

TDS
"Hatred" of Trump
Globalists
Fake news
And my favorite........

Whatabout Joe Biden?

 

[Loulit01]

Poll is silly.

 

[rickc]

Poll is silly.

Well he is certainly changing his tune about that illegal immigrant labor. He wants it here for the farmers, his hotels and the construction industry. Not what he said when he was campaigning.

As for the tarrifs. They are a disaster for American business and consumers. It is not going to force manufacturers to move to America. Wall Street knows what is coming. What happened in the bond market scared everyone including trump. If nobody wants our treasury bonds Americ can't finance that 30 trillion federal debt. That was the last straw.

 

[upsideguy]

Well he is certainly changing his tune about that illegal immigrant labor. He wants it here for the farmers, his hotels and the construction industry. Not what he said when he was campaigning.

As for the tarrifs. They are a disaster for American business and consumers. It is not going to force manufacturers to move to America. Wall Street knows what is coming. What happened in the bond market scared everyone including trump. If nobody wants our treasury bonds Americ can't finance that 30 trillion federal debt. That was the last straw.

The only consistency to Trump policy is that he wants absolute, unchecked power. On that front, he is doing exceedingly well. All of this other stuff is fundamentally noise; a means to acquire unchecked power. Even dictators have a constituency that is required for them to hold power, and to whom he must deliver. In Trump's case, its American oligarchs.

 

[Gatsby]

First on tarrifs: Did the bond market end Trump's tarrifs?

Most of Trump's tariffs are still in effect, right now. I hope that he gets cold feet and backs off when the economic damage becomes clear, but he hasn't so far.

Second on deportations: Have business people convinced we need that immigrant labor?

Trump is doing what he did in his first term: Making a big show of deporting people and mistreating them in outrageous ways, but he isn't actually deporting that many more people than we usually do.

 

[Jetboogieman]

Trump is counting on tariff revenue to help pay for the tax cuts he wants

Which is… absolutely ****ing stupid.

 

[upsideguy]

No and no. Trump is counting on tariff revenue to help pay for the tax cuts he wants. Many will vanish but a baseline 10% tariff on everything will remain.

Are you saying you are 'ok' with the tax increases, especially on those least able to afford them, or are you merely explaining Trump's hidden agenda?

 

[Jason Warfield]

No and no. Trump is counting on tariff revenue to help pay for the tax cuts he wants. Many will vanish but a baseline 10% tariff on everything will remain.

Which Americans will pay for. The importers will pay for it and to make up their profit shortfall, the cost will be passed onto the retailers (like me) who will then pass on the cost to customers to make p our profit margin shortfall.

The countries who are tariffed don't pay anything. All they have to do is the same to us and find different markets to sell in or increase in other markets they may be in... which is what is happening. And remember, just because we grow or make a product doesn't mean that any given nations need or wants to have it or purchase it from us (there is a reason why Japan has a 778% tariff on US rice: they don't need it and don't want it messing up their economy).

It won't pay for the tax breaks he wants because he won't cut spending. Remember, he isn't cutting spending, he is just shifting revenue around to his agenda items and will increase spending on things he wants for his base. He is going to spend just as much as any president before him...and he has already been spending. Despite DOGE's idiocy, spending is up. Also, the House just passed a bill to cut 5 trillion, but the same bill will wipe out that 5 trillion and add 700 million over the next ten years.

Tariffs are not going to pay for that.

 

[Mycroft]

First on tarrifs: Did the bond market end Trump's tarrifs?

Second on deportations: Have business people convinced we need that immigrant labor?

Trump hasn't changed direction at all.

Tariffs. Trump is being flexible. He has gotten so many calls from countries who want to make a deal that he has to make temporary allowances. But, you know that if deals are not reached with countries, their tariffs will resume.

Deportations. Trump has never expressed opposition to legal means from foreign nationals being able to work in the US. Emphasis on the word "legal". Deportations won't stop.

Really...spinning is doing yourself a disservice.

 

[Airyaman]

No and no. Trump is counting on tariff revenue to help pay for the tax cuts he wants. Many will vanish but a baseline 10% tariff on everything will remain.

Good luck with that.

Um, It Turns Out No One at the Ports Is Collecting Trump’s Tariffs

A technical “glitch” has created the biggest hiccup in Trump’s tariffs rollout.

newrepublic.com

 

[Allan]

No and no. Trump is counting on tariff revenue to help pay for the tax cuts he wants. Many will vanish but a baseline 10% tariff on everything will remain.

Taxing Americans to cut American's taxes.

Brilliant

 

[The Mark]

First on tarrifs: Did the bond market end Trump's tarrifs?

Second on deportations: Have business people convinced we need that immigrant labor?

Neither the tariffs nor the deportations have ended, and that's not even getting into the unconstitutional rendition of multiple persons which we still have to address and correct.

 

[The Mark]

Taxing Americans to cut American's taxes.

Brilliant

It's a blatant wealth transfer from the majority to the rich.

 

[Parker_Chess]

He has received enough blowback on tariffs that they are/will be significantly scaled back from the initial numbers. He'll try to pitch this off as a victory for the American people. When the reality is he made a mistake and knows it. MAGA will continue to believe Trump is some business expert and these were some high fluent negotiating tactic. Of course the GOP politicians and Right Wing media will know it's a lie but thats never stopped them before from distorting the truth.

 

[Phys251]

He has received enough blowback on tariffs that they are/will be significantly scaled back from the initial numbers. He'll try to pitch this off as a victory for the American people. When the reality is he made a mistake and knows it. MAGA will continue to believe Trump is some business expert and these were some high fluent negotiating tactic.

 

[Airyaman]

 

[Jetboogieman]

Trump hasn't changed direction at all.

Trump is being flexible.

I.E. He's changing direction.

Because if its about getting manufacturing back, if it's about using tariff revenue to enrich your citizens and if your market is so lucrative, people will still want to sell in the US even with the tariffs in place, then he should NEVER have to pause them, stop them, remove them, whatever them...

But it's actually about none of that.

And taxing your own citizens to enrich your own citizens, if I've heard him correctly...

Sounds an awful lot like Globalist, socialist nonsense to me.