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Trump Can't Possibly Win

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What a strange article. There is zero correlation between a campaign today and that of one thirty years ago. There are too many variables between the two.
 

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The article got it wrong. I remember it well.
This is what sunk Dukakis;
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How Michael Dukakis' tank ad symbolized his 1988 campaign l FiveThirtyEight - YouTube

And Howard Dean in ‘04
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2004: Howard Dean's infamous yell - YouTube

Sometimes all it takes is one really bad moment/idea.

I don't remember Howard Dean ever being the nominee. But, I find it interesting that you posted two Democratic blunders and we know Biden is a gaff machine. Gaffs, aside, Biden has a lot to defend from socialism to lock downs to allowing protests to get out of control. Democrats need the young to vote so telling them they can't go out to bars and parties isn't going to go over well with them.
 

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We need to face it. Trump is going to lose. It is a forgone conclusion. Our betters want us to think this. I dont post much anymore because my betters are boring one trick ponies. Personally I am going to the voting booth to cast my vote for Trump and a straight R ticket. Call it a double fisted hairy bulbous middle finger FU to my betters. Let em bask in the full moon of my greatness. :moon:
 

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We need to face it. Trump is going to lose. It is a forgone conclusion. Our betters want us to think this. I dont post much anymore because my betters are boring one trick ponies. Personally I am going to the voting booth to cast my vote for Trump and a straight R ticket. Call it a double fisted hairy bulbous middle finger FU to my betters. Let em bask in the full moon of my greatness. :moon:

You do know that pretty much all trump has done is what republican donors, most "globalists" have been paging Republican Logan's for years for, right?

Tax cuts, deregulation, you know.

The kinds of things that he donated money to both parties for.
 

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Racism is working less and less for you white wingers but yall cling to that hope with your old clenched fist as you sink into dustbin of history. :lamo

What's working less and less is the specious idea that America is hopelessly racist. That's only believed by brain dead far left types and their media handlers. We just had eight years of a black president. That doesn't happen in a "systemically racist" country. The left, as always, is lying and lying and lying. They have to because their policy ideas are so destructive that no sane person could support them.
 

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Democrats gonna have trouble rallying the college towns when they are shutting down left and right.
 

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I don't remember Howard Dean ever being the nominee. But, I find it interesting that you posted two Democratic blunders and we know Biden is a gaff machine. Gaffs, aside, Biden has a lot to defend from socialism to lock downs to allowing protests to get out of control. Democrats need the young to vote so telling them they can't go out to bars and parties isn't going to go over well with them.
Try to follow the simple point I made. It isn’t about party, and isn’t about who the nominee was or wasn’t. It was an illustration of how one bad decision (putting Dukakis on tank) or one bad moment (Dean’s crazy ass scream) can severely damage or even end a campaign.
 

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What's working less and less is the specious idea that America is hopelessly racist. That's only believed by brain dead far left types and their media handlers. We just had eight years of a black president. That doesn't happen in a "systemically racist" country. The left, as always, is lying and lying and lying. They have to because their policy ideas are so destructive that no sane person could support them.

No one thinks America is hopelessly racist, they just think white wingers are. :shrug:
 

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i see scenarios in which he can win, especially considering that he has no scruples, and that he owns the Republican party and its resources fully. if this were a strategy board game and i drew him as a character, i would probably have a decent chance of winning, assuming that i didn't feel bad about playing ruthless and dirty. Democrats will have to fight hard and smart.
 

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You do know that pretty much all trump has done is what republican donors, most "globalists" have been paging Republican Logan's for years for, right?

Tax cuts, deregulation, you know.

The kinds of things that he donated money to both parties for.

So?????? It's what I want.
 

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Democrats gonna have trouble rallying the college towns when they are shutting down left and right.

Not only that but Biden says he could lock down the entire country due to the virus if he wins. Those young college kids aren't going to like that.
 

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Try to follow the simple point I made. It isn’t about party, and isn’t about who the nominee was or wasn’t. It was an illustration of how one bad decision (putting Dukakis on tank) or one bad moment (Dean’s crazy ass scream) can severely damage or even end a campaign.

So, you're point is that isn't going to happen with Biden?
 

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i see scenarios in which he can win, especially considering that he has no scruples, and that he owns the Republican party and its resources fully. if this were a strategy board game and i drew him as a character, i would probably have a decent chance of winning, assuming that i didn't feel bad about playing ruthless and dirty. Democrats will have to fight hard and smart.

LOL. So, you're saying that Biden doesn't own the Democratic party and it's resources fully? You are in a lot of trouble then.
 

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LOL. So, you're saying that Biden doesn't own the Democratic party and it's resources fully? You are in a lot of trouble then.

i have yet to observe him turning that party into a cult. nice attempt at false equivalency, though.
 

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Not only that but Biden says he could lock down the entire country due to the virus if he wins. Those young college kids aren't going to like that.

I'm telling everyone the thruth .... a vote for Biden is a vote for complete submission to masks.
 

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So, you're point is that isn't going to happen with Biden?
My point was a rebuttal to OP’s assertion that H.W. was saved by a change in strategy. That likely contributed, but Dukakis’ tank ad did far more damage to his campaign.
 

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What's working less and less is the specious idea that America is hopelessly racist. That's only believed by brain dead far left types and their media handlers. We just had eight years of a black president. That doesn't happen in a "systemically racist" country. The left, as always, is lying and lying and lying. They have to because their policy ideas are so destructive that no sane person could support them.

The party of trump and Republicans have a big problem on their hands, and it will only get worst....Qanon. This alone could take down Trump and swing the Senate blue....
 

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I don't think he can. He has 82% of his supporters from last time, he won in the rust belt 3 states by 70,000 votes combined, he's killed more than twice that many people with Covid. People said let's give that dummy a chance. Now they know he's an idiot and a moron. People didn't like Hillary, they love and Trust Biden.

He knows he's going to lose which is why he is saying it's rigged.
 

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Trump can win. There are a TON of Confederates in our country.
 

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You do know that pretty much all trump has done is what republican donors, most "globalists" have been paging Republican Logan's for years for, right?

Tax cuts, deregulation, you know.

The kinds of things that he donated money to both parties for.

So I should vote for a bunch of unhinged racist lunatics who call themselves Democrats? No thank you.
 
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